BRC Public Transit in 2009?

sattelite5812 · Post by **sattelite5812** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:15 pm

True, and for the most part the MVs are wonderful about giving people lifts. The problem is that the destination isn't always where you want to go.

Part of the musing that started this thread was due to an experience on playa this year where my friend injured his foot far away from camp. He managed to limp halfway back, but his foot was really hurting and he couldn't go any farther. We decided to hop on an art car, but it was too crowded and noisy to get to the driver and ask where he was headed... and he ended up taking us back to where we'd started from

That, coupled with the Public Transit hearsay, made me wonder whether some semi-reliable system could really be a benefit to Black Rock's citizens who are unable to walk or bike long distances.

motskyroonmatick · Post by **motskyroonmatick** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:00 pm

sattelite5812 wrote: Black Rock's citizens who are unable to walk or bike long distances.

I'll give you a ride on my mutant any time there is space and if your or anyone's companion is injured the Space Yacht will take you where you want to go.
Taking people to their destination is part of the goal with my mutant vehicle.

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:10 am

LisaLuckyOne wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:(Fishy spends an uncomfortable 15 minutes deciding not to say "Some trash fence; it didn't keep you out.)
To call you a bitch would be an insult to women everywhere.

Well, at least you weren't one of the ones insulted then

sattelite5812 · Post by **sattelite5812** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:03 pm

So lo and behold, someone's actually doing it! http://nowhereomnibus.wordpress.com/

Looking at the proposed route, planned art performances, and LNT elements, it looks like they are doing this right and I think it's a fabulous idea!

I have my doubts about the ability to adhere to strict schedule out on the Playa, but I think most of us are familiar enough with the concept of Playa Time (if even carrying a timepiece) to forgive the occasional missed stop. After all, as stated earlier in this thread, most of us are perfectly able to walk or bike if we don't feel like waiting at a bus stop. And I think this will be a valuable service for those who have challenges with traveling long distances. The theatre element of the experience will certainly be a treat for anyone who cares to participate!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:50 pm

Absolutely nothing about accessibility. NOt surprising, alas.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:54 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Absolutely nothing about accessibility. NOt surprising, alas.

Have you encountered a lot of issues relating to accessibility on the Playa?
I'd think, lots of folks would be glad to lend a hand........At least it seems that way.

Just wonderin'..........

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:11 pm

It's not much of a priority of the llc. There were many people who helped me out of drifts last year. I still have issues with needing the help, so the more there is "adaptive equipment" built into on-playa experiences, the less resentful of the whole damn mess I'll feel, the less unwelcome, the less of a burden, the more a member of the community.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:16 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:It's not much of a priority of the llc. There were many people who helped me out of drifts last year. I still have issues with needing the help, so the more there is "adaptive equipment" built into on-playa experiences, the less resentful of the whole damn mess I'll feel, the less unwelcome, the less of a burden, the more a member of the community.

yeah, I can see that...........I can only imagine, at times, the stress of having to have help.
dang.......
You might also, though, consider the pleasure it gives some of us, to, help someone out of a dune, or, over a threshold, etc...........
I don't minimize your feelings, just, sayin' that it can be a positive, too.

The CO · Post by **The CO** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:30 pm

Riding an art car, while fun, has never been as satisfying as biking or walking around the playa for me. The city is only a couple miles wide. Get over it and get some exercise.*

*(exceptions made** to the prior statement for those of legit limited mobility. Fishy, if I could build you a flame-shooting, solar powered, four wheel drive mutant chair, I would. Still working on the automated ass-kicker.)

**(more exceptions made for le contraption. Still my favorite art vehicle.)

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:59 am

ygmir wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:It's not much of a priority of the llc. There were many people who helped me out of drifts last year. I still have issues with needing the help, so the more there is "adaptive equipment" built into on-playa experiences, the less resentful of the whole damn mess I'll feel, the less unwelcome, the less of a burden, the more a member of the community.
yeah, I can see that...........I can only imagine, at times, the stress of having to have help.
dang.......
You might also, though, consider the pleasure it gives some of us, to, help someone out of a dune, or, over a threshold, etc...........
I don't minimize your feelings, just, sayin' that it can be a positive, too.

I'd have to agree with you here ygmir. Personally, I don't want to presume that somebody would need or want my help, but, I would be more then happy to help where and when I can.

Armand · Post by **Armand** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:48 pm

It's a really long shot but I'm just throwing this out there.

What if we have a public transit system that is run by the residents of Black Rock City? What I have in mind is a 'people-hauler' towed by bicycles. I haven't really put much thought into how the actual design will be but five bicyclists would be able to haul a descent amount of people, I think?

There can be instructions on what to do attached to each bicycle, and there will be 'x' number of them out on the playa. If people want to use it to get across town, they have try to get a group going along with volunteers or volunteer themselves.

But even though I ride my bicycle instead of my car I have no idea how much weight five adults can tow. I know there are safety factors to consider along with actually designing(and funding of) this contraption, but I like to call it public transportation, Burning man style.

uncle sticky · Post by **uncle sticky** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:22 pm

All this talk of transport, and what people can do for others, and the simple answer is "you want it, build it."

Fishy, I know your background, and I know your resourcefulness. A flamethrowing wheelchair would be sweet.

As far as the rest of you asking for better mobility, better transport, better attitude from Mv's, .....

You want it, you build it. This is burning man. This is a do-ocracy. This is radical self-reliance.

The borg provides a simple canvas, sometimes with a little of their own poo wiped on it, but overall a blank canvas. Nothing more. Oh, and ice and poopers. Do it. Make it. Bring it.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Sat May 02, 2009 4:57 am

There were many people who helped me out of drifts last year. I still have issues with needing the help, so the more there is "adaptive equipment" built into on-playa experiences

*note to self.....obtain mini-snowplow for possible obstruction clearing to attach to project FX.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat May 02, 2009 7:27 am

A plow would be great for clearing unnecessary hippies out of the way also.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:36 am

how about one of these?

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Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:11 am

Now heres a MV I'd love to see or bring to the playa...

Dust dunes be damned!

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:04 am

I like the Godzilla zapper inside the front of the cab.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sat May 02, 2009 7:32 pm

ygmir wrote:how about one of these?

All those eggs are too moopy.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Sat May 02, 2009 8:20 pm

I agree, egshells would be covered in dust instantly and impossible to find.

Severed heads, on the other hand...............

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:11 pm

yeah, we could play soccer or something.............and those expressions.........priceless.............

dragonfly Jafe · Post by **dragonfly Jafe** » Sun May 03, 2009 7:11 am

oneeyeddick wrote:I agree, egshells would be covered in dust instantly and impossible to find.

Severed heads, on the other hand...............

that's why you put tarps down first...

Sail Man · Post by **Sail Man** » Sun May 03, 2009 8:07 am

Just be careful where you kick the "ball" It could result in the ultimate foot in mouth situation

Carla Lyn · Post by **Carla Lyn** » Wed May 06, 2009 9:58 pm

bigbluedoggy wrote:If they should decide to implement some sort of mass transit, I imagine it would be done in phases. Next year could potentially see an Esplanade shuttle, which just makes the circuit from 2:00 to 10:00 and back across to 2:00 via the Man. If that works out, then maybe there would be an outer or mid ring service added for future years. Given how crappy the playa surface was this year, I would have been more likely to go further and see more of the city if I had known there was guaranteed transportation from one side to the other and I didn't have to rely on having a bike (and a sore butt) or walking the full distance. I don't really think its a bad idea... and who's to say that whatever form of transit vehicle is created won't be pretty trippy looking? Official art bus anyone?

I would have to agree.... It would have been really nice to have something like this last year. I must have walked back & forth across playa at least 4 times since i was camped at 9th & C. Bikes or good shoes equipped.... that was beyond a life changing journey! Holey Moley!!

SpacemanSpliff · Post by **SpacemanSpliff** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:40 am

[quote="sattelite5812"]So lo and behold, someone's actually doing it! [url]http://nowhereomnibus.wordpress.com/[/url] :D

Looking at the proposed route, planned art performances, and LNT elements, it looks like they are doing this right and I think it's a fabulous idea!

I have my doubts about the ability to adhere to strict schedule out on the Playa, but I think most of us are familiar enough with the concept of Playa Time (if even carrying a timepiece) to forgive the occasional missed stop. After all, as stated earlier in this thread, most of us are perfectly able to walk or bike if we don't feel like waiting at a bus stop. And I think this will be a valuable service for those who have challenges with traveling long distances. The theatre element of the experience will certainly be a treat for anyone who cares to participate![/quote]

I have to say, I have serious doubts about the ability of anyone who says "We will be arrive precisely on time at each stop" to actually do so.

But I won't be wearing a watch anyway...

Dave_techie · Post by **Dave_techie** » Thu May 07, 2009 10:04 am

could always have someone build an art zeppelin and have them bus people around.....

Bounce530 · Post by **Bounce530** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:01 pm

Don't know if they've started building their bus yet or not, but I found this on Reno's C/L.
(disclaimer; I am not at all connected with this bus, just found it while looking around and thought it might be of some help to this project.)

http://reno.craigslist.org/rvs/1135104289.html

EB · Post by EB » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:04 pm

Ask and ye shall receive...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/around_town/t ... an-jw.html

Tamino · Post by **Tamino** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:51 pm

I have a pass for the Cap Cod Tunnel for quick trips to Provincetown? Anyone know if there will be free passes to the BRC Subway System?

BRC Public Transit in 2009?

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