If she doesn't return, the BLM may have done us all a favor.pinemom wrote:I always feel the need to look up the OP to see if more Idiotic posts like the OP just posted. Yup.
Seems the last 3 years she has only come in to beg for a ticket in July and August.
BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
- BBadger
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
"The essence of tyranny is not iron law. It is capricious law." -- Christopher Hitchens
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- theCryptofishist
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
Now we're just being mean!
Won't someone think of the children?!
Won't someone think of the children?!
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
I would be more than happy to cook one uptheCryptofishist wrote:Now we're just being mean!
Won't someone think of the children?!
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
Major points for "rad times treat".Nipple wrote: It's interesting, sure, but in my experience it hasn't been a rad times treat.
Oh fucking snap. It's officially lodged in the vernacular. Props.
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
"10 principles? you cant HANDLE the 10 principles..."
Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
Agreed. You are legally obligated to identify yourself at the request of a LEO, but you have the right to refuse a search by a LEO. Embrace that right. Cherish that right. Grab onto it with both hands and don't let go. No matter how many times they ask, do not give your consent. Beyond that, say nothing, because that is also your right. Do not answer any questions. Do not engage in conversation. The more they badger you, the more you should strengthen your resolve to keep quiet. Whether you are innocent or guilty, whether or not you have something to hide, do not talk to the police. It is for your own protection and for your own good.BBadger wrote:And here is the exact moment of the incident going downhill. There is never "might as well let them." You respectfully refuse until--and past--the bitter end. No exceptions.Sammi_Noelle wrote:... Then they started threatening to get the dogs, and that they we’re going to search me either way, so I might as well let them search me. ...
Treat all searches as if they're going to give you a deep-cavity rectal search--no lube. You'd sure as hell fight that wouldn't you?
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That's some big talk..Hoolie wrote:Agreed. You are legally obligated to identify yourself at the request of a LEO, but you have the right to refuse a search by a LEO. Embrace that right. Cherish that right. Grab onto it with both hands and don't let go. No matter how many times they ask, do not give your consent. Beyond that, say nothing, because that is also your right. Do not answer any questions. Do not engage in conversation. The more they badger you, the more you should strengthen your resolve to keep quiet. Whether you are innocent or guilty, whether or not you have something to hide, do not talk to the police. It is for your own protection and for your own good.BBadger wrote:And here is the exact moment of the incident going downhill. There is never "might as well let them." You respectfully refuse until--and past--the bitter end. No exceptions.Sammi_Noelle wrote:... Then they started threatening to get the dogs, and that they we’re going to search me either way, so I might as well let them search me. ...
Treat all searches as if they're going to give you a deep-cavity rectal search--no lube. You'd sure as hell fight that wouldn't you?
But when they decide they have PC and search you and your holding.. Your open for hindering..
If your stupid and holding.. Take the ticket and shut the fuck up.. A small fine is better than a jail cell in the middle of your party.. Just pay the stupid tax you played for..
Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
It's not big talk. It's exercising constitutional rights, specifically, amendments 4 and 5.unjonharley wrote:That's some big talk..
But when they decide they have PC and search you and your holding.. Your open for hindering..
If your stupid and holding.. Take the ticket and shut the fuck up.. A small fine is better than a jail cell in the middle of your party.. Just pay the stupid tax you played for..
"Hindering" would only apply if you lied and said you were not holding, before they discovered you were. Silence cannot be used against you, nor can refusal to consent to a search.
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Re: BLM is OUT OF CONTROL.
Hoolie you are most correct. For someone to be hindering they would have to take the initiative to furnish authorities with information they know to be not true, i.e. lying about whether they are holding, etc. Volunteering false information is hindering. Exercising your constitutional rights to avoid self-incrimination is not.
But then getting your legal advice from random folks typing in chat rooms may not be the best COA. As the thread so goes.
But then getting your legal advice from random folks typing in chat rooms may not be the best COA. As the thread so goes.