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Post by STACKflyer » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:17 pm

I searched and searched, there were so many topics it was overwhelming. Im looking for info on getting in to BRC. I have heard that there is a massive search of all of your belongings. How long does it take to actually get in to the city? Do they really go through every nook and cranny or your gear and car? Can you bring in booze and fireworks, gasoline? just curious.
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Post by Bob » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:21 pm

No, they just search every other car. Maybe you'll get lucky.
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Post by STACKflyer » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:23 pm

but if you do, how bad is it?
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Post by Captain Goddammit » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:28 pm

You can't set off fireworks at BRC.
You can bring all the booze you want.
You can bring gasoline in appropriate containers.
The gate search is just checking for stowaways trying to get in without a ticket.
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Re: security/ getting in question.

Post by Kinetik V » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:05 pm

Q&A:
I have heard that there is a massive search of all of your belongings. How long does it take to actually get in to the city?

This depends on the day you arrive, the time you get there, if the gate staff is distracted, if the greeters have to run through a bunch of newbies...in other words YMMV. For the two of us last year it took almost 4 1/2 hours from the time we rolled off 447 at around 2:15 pm PDT until we got to our camp site...including a stop at will call to pick up our tickets.

Do they really go through every nook and cranny or your gear and car?

They are looking for stowaways....and based on several years of experience they can and quite often do go through stuff like the proverbial bull in a china closet. Make it easy for them...don't pack the car like a sardine can, leave some room for someone to get in to look in places a person could hide, make sure you can open your trunk, or if you have an RV they will look in storage compartments...in short if it's big enough to squeeze a teenager into plan ahead for that area to be searched...

And whatever you do, don't give the gate staff attitude...I had to replace over $300 worth of damaged antenna leads and other gear after making that mistake.

Can you bring in booze and fireworks, gasoline? just curious.

Booze = No restrictions. Bring as much as your budget allows. Gas...anything over 20 gallons must be reported and you have all sorts of hoops to jump through to "legally" have it. (You can find the exact rules for 20 gallons or more of gas on the main BM site if you search for it) I've hauled in 3 5 gallon cans on my roof rack without fuss or even a single question for 6 years straight...again YMMV.

I hope this helps....
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Post by STACKflyer » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:09 pm

i was only worried about a few "special items" ;)
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Post by Tiahaar » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:04 pm

If you have to ask, yes they will appropriatly amuse themselves with your "special" items and then unbeknownst to you gleefully tag your bumper with a special bullseye sticker alerting the LEO's to target your vehicle for further review. :twisted:
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Post by mdmf007 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:30 pm

we used to stay in line and everyone would run to the will call to get their ticket. Once they go tthem, they would run back and find the car, and the driver would go get his. Saves time pulling into the will call loop.

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Post by Kinetik V » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:05 am

STACKflyer wrote:i was only worried about a few "special items" ;)
Duh!

Seriously.....know that you know what their looking for and where they like to look your special items will be safe because you will be informed and aware enough to take care of them!

Let's put it this way, Gate staff are not on duty law enforcement. Sheesh, next thing you know people will be asking about how to install secret compartments on their cars and stuff!
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Post by Token » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:48 am

How far up ones ass must "Special Items" be shoved to fool the "Special Item" K-9 unit?



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Post by Toolmaker » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:01 am

Token wrote:How far up ones ass must "Special Items" be shoved to fool the "Special Item" K-9 unit?



:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I had to injest my baggies.. the only problem was recovery from the porta pottie tank. My arm was blue for awhile.



As far as the vehicle search goes expect K9 out in force. If you look like a druggie or a hippie you could get pulled for a random screening and possibly a body cavity search if the cops are suspicious enough. The only fireworks you should bring are roman candles and those really long strips of firecrackers. The firecrackers especially go well in front of earth guardians camp.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:29 am

STACKflyer wrote:i was only worried about a few "special items" ;)
Read your ticket under CAVITY SEARCH. There is no drugz at the Bunringmans.

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Post by Ron » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:52 am

Toolmaker wrote:...I had to injest my baggies.. the only problem was recovery from the porta pottie tank. My arm was blue for awhile......
See now, I brought a bit of screen to shit though. Slipped it under the porta potty lid, held in in place with my feet while I hovered, and shat all over it. With some juggling of the poo it slipped through the screen, leaving my condom wrapped, "special items," easily attainable without going swimming in the blue lagoon. Kind of like the smuggler's pee funnel, really. Maybe this year I should form a theme camp.

"Shit Screeners Camp."

What'cha think? ;)

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Post by AntiM » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:03 am

Fireworks ... nevermind the illegality, they're annoying as hell, make a ton of MOOP, and burn holes in tents and shade. I'm still holding a grudge against the guy shooting them off in Hushville who burned holes in my koi banners six years ago.

If you want to blow shit up, really go for it and try railroad torpedoes or gasoline bombs out on the open playa.

Your party favors are likely safe. Geez, kids and their drugs.

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Post by Kinetik V » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:11 am

AntiM wrote:
Your party favors are likely safe. Geez, kids and their drugs.
Well, they will be safe but only after they run the gauntlet of NHP and local sheriffs deputies who will be patrolling 447 looking for the slightest fuckup. Gate should be the least of their worries. And if you're a real dick and get stopped, depending on where you get stopped they could turn you over to the feds or...even the Tribal Police! And you really don't want to go there!
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Post by Dork » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:45 am

The search is done by BM volunteers, not law enforcement or TSA. They do not care about your stash. They don't care that you have an outstanding warrant, unpaid parking tickets, or a huge trunk full of fetish gear. They are looking for people and animals trying to sneak in. While searching they keep an eye out for fireworks, plants, and other obvious moop-creating objects.

They will look in any cavity likely to fit a person inside without killing them - trunks, the floor behind the front seat, giant boxes, RV bathrooms, etc. If it won't fit a person or they don't feel like spending a half hour pulling crap out to get to it they won't check it.

Just be prepared to open your trunk and uncover any large areas so they can move on to the next car.

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Post by lonestoner916 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:57 pm

AntiM wrote: Geez, kids and their drugs.
Well they need something to do after they have sex...
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Post by thirt33n » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:00 pm

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Post by Otisserie » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:05 am

To give you the straight answer: no one at Gate gives a shit about your drugs, and there are no cops up at the gate unless they were called there to deal with some dickwad. We will, however, confiscate your fireworks and royally buttfuck your stowaways; so for God's sake bring cute stowaways.

Oh, and no dogs; and I don't mean the appearance-challenged, I mean no dogs.
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Post by ZaphodBurner » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:24 pm

Kinetic V wrote: Let's put it this way, Gate staff are not on duty law enforcement. Sheesh, next thing you know people will be asking about how to install secret compartments on their cars and stuff!
"Hey, even I get boarded sometimes." -HS

To the OP, the legit answers are here. They're looking for stowaways, pets and, tangentally, stuff like guns. Have your tickets ready, don't hang your weed from the rearview mirror or leave your bong out in the open, don't be a Spicoli and have a mushroom cloud of smoke come out the door when they open it, and as somebody else noted, if they can stick their head in and immediately see that you don't have somebody hiding in there, they'll move you on.

I think the gate people should wear Stormtrooper outfits just to freak out the new people.

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Post by Timezone LaFontaine » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:45 pm

ZaphodBurner wrote:
I think the gate people should wear Stormtrooper outfits just to freak out the new people.

-c
These are not the special items you're looking for.

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Post by EB » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:45 pm

ZaphodBurner wrote:I think the gate people should wear Stormtrooper outfits just to freak out the new people.
"These are not the heshers we're looking for..."
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Post by STACKflyer » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:53 pm

yeah, I get it. Now how do I install that secret compartment in my car?
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Post by gyre » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:43 am

I have actually been looking into this type of security, more for houses.
Any interest in an exploration of it?
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Post by Jew Boy » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:28 pm

Any event at which you must concern yourself with seizure of "contraband" is bullshit, and a waste of time.

The deserts are vast and with so many people at BM these days, you can have nearly all other areas to yourself and as many thousand others as you can convince to come along.

Start a new event, bring your guns, drugs, underage hippie chicks, plutonium, and even the goddam dog if you want. BM has provided the cover you need. And what's more, it won't cost a few hundred smacks to get in.
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Post by capjbadger » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:10 am

Jew Boy wrote:Any event at which you must concern yourself with seizure of "contraband" is bullshit, and a waste of time.

The deserts are vast and with so many people at BM these days, you can have nearly all other areas to yourself and as many thousand others as you can convince to come along.

Start a new event, bring your guns, drugs, underage hippie chicks, plutonium, and even the goddam dog if you want. BM has provided the cover you need. And what's more, it won't cost a few hundred smacks to get in.
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izzacutehkittehpie...

Post by honeyfire » Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:49 pm

[unrelatedcomment] badger, i love your new avatar! It's soooo ginchy![/unrelatedcommnet]
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Post by dragonfly Jafe » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:52 pm

...the time to worry is on your way to the event while you are on highway 447, and after you leave greeters and drive to your camp.

Some kind of LEO is assured to stop by if you pull over anywhere on 447 for more than a few minutes. If you look or act weird, expect to be asked questions. They may have a K9.

After you leave gate (and are IN black rock city) do not assume the party starts. They are watching you, and if you open a beer while driving (or anything more "special") expect to be pulled over and ticketed or worse. Wait until your vehicle is parked and will not be moved again before drinking or whatever.
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Post by ragabashpup » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:56 pm

Also if you will be partaking in naughty "special" activites don't be stupid about it. Don't walk down the street smoking up hide away in your tent keep it to yourself and don't advertise look at me look at me. They will...and they will throw you in handcuffs and drag you away.

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Re: izzacutehkittehpie...

Post by capjbadger » Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:04 pm

honeyfire wrote:[unrelatedcomment] badger, i love your new avatar! It's soooo ginchy![/unrelatedcommnet]
Thanks. Actually it's the old one which I put back up after the whole Simpsons thing faded away. :)

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