WHO wOULD be interested in HEALING MAN (R) ???

[Craiger13]

I think the concept of Burning Man is great, but how about it without the drugs or alcohol? How about instead of searching for hiding people, searching for people attempting to smuggle in drugs or alcohol because they are disillusioned that THAT will bring them happiness? How about we have community kitchens, where anybody who is hungry can eat? No just cool people are people with cool art cars or costumes...

Where the Yoga and Meditation take priority over the BURNING OF THE MAN... what the hell is that... (LETS light something on fire and get drunk and excited, only to wake up.. or maybe not, the next morning only to feel like shit)... How about we LOVE our neighbor with a message or a 'healthy' meal instead of a BEER or a shitty baloni (full of shit) sandwich?

How about rather than trying to outdo each other and one up them, we feel secure in our personalities and love unconditionally and connect to others spirits and souls, rather than their 'cool' artcar or custom.
I came to BM to get away from the superficial world, WHY DID YOU COME TO BURNING MAN? and did you get what you came her from? (you can lie to the world, but be honest with yourself)......

SPEAK NOW, or you will continue to be a part of the lie and deceit.....

[Aiee! It burns!]

Sounds like you got the makings of a regional. Go for it. You don't have to imitate Larry Harvey.

[DoriumLux]

Sounds like a "Rainbow Gathering" is more your gig or something. heh

[gyre]

There are many different types of events around the country of all variations.
Many predate burning man by many years.

[Toolmaker]

Dude yer thinkin of Rainbow Gatherings.. ya know where the hippies get harassed by the cops for not having any ID etc etc.

I don't think you have to worry about those pesky mutant vehicles and kids rolling balls dressed as polar bears there.

[Ugly Dougly]

There are many different types of events around the country of all variations.
Many predate burning man by many years.

There was one in New York a while back, you know?

[carn1fex]

[quote="Craiger13"]I think the concept of Burning Man is great, but how about it without the drugs or alcohol? How about instead of searching for hiding people, searching for people attempting to smuggle in drugs or alcohol because they are disillusioned that THAT will bring them happiness? How about we have community kitchens, where anybody who is hungry can eat? No just cool people are people with cool art cars or costumes...

Where the Yoga and Meditation take priority over the BURNING OF THE MAN... what the hell is that... (LETS light something on fire and get drunk and excited, only to wake up.. or maybe not, the next morning only to feel like shit)... How about we LOVE our neighbor with a message or a 'healthy' meal instead of a BEER or a shitty baloni (full of shit) sandwich?

How about rather than trying to outdo each other and one up them, we feel secure in our personalities and love unconditionally and connect to others spirits and souls, rather than their 'cool' artcar or custom.
I came to BM to get away from the superficial world, WHY DID YOU COME TO BURNING MAN? and did you get what you came her from? (you can lie to the world, but be honest with yourself)......

SPEAK NOW, or you will continue to be a part of the lie and deceit.....[/quote]

fuckin hippies. :)

[gyre]

There are many different types of events around the country of all variations.
Many predate burning man by many years.

There was one in New York a while back, you know?

I think I know what you're talking about.
Which one was it?

[Bad-Budhist]

It is waht you make it. My camp made amazing healthy meals....and I went to yoga in the morning. there people
in my camp who drunk..and people who did not

[Craiger13]

the mind is more interested in chaos, and that is why burning is more intreging to people .... then healing. Hell, lets BURN our inhibitions and things that hold us back, rather than heal and find peace and imbrace those things we love.......

[Craiger13]

I had the most amazing experiences upon my return... no NEED for healing man -- the plans have been cancelled. Burning man IS ALSO healing man.

[EB]

Please masteurbate elsewhere, sir.

[Craiger13]

Oh please, can i can I ?

[Ugly Dougly]

There are many different types of events around the country of all variations.
Many predate burning man by many years.

There was one in New York a while back, you know?

I think I know what you're talking about.
Which one was it?

You're probably too young to remember Woodstock.

[betrdanevr]

There was one in New York a while back, you know?

I think I know what you're talking about.
Which one was it?

You're probably too young to remember Woodstock.

That's a shame, too. Everybody should know about Woodstock.

[gyre]

I have the marquee poster from one of the Atlanta Pop Festivals.
Woodstock had hype but wasn't that big a deal as an event compared to others.
Check out the Isle of Wight festival albums.

I was thinking of a burner type arts event in new england that still continues.
I can't remember the name of it.
Many of the more exotic events are very private and word of mouth.

[betrdanevr]

Woodstock had hype but wasn't that big a deal as an event compared to others.
Check out the Isle of Wight festival albums.

Wasn't that big a deal? Woodstock was the largest and most significant epoch-making event to that time. Isle of Wight was larger but had many of the same performers. I personally consider it the next stop of sort of a world tour. LOL

[gyre]

Woodstock had trouble attracting top names.
They lucked out or had great people signing bands.
I think it was the first venue Crosby, Stills, Nash played, wasn't it?
They did far better promoting it after it had happened than before.
Would have lost money without the movie and album.
There were a lot of big events back then until corruption wrecked it by gouging for bribes, as happened to burning man, or simply driving them out of existence.

Isle of Wight was a fairly big deal.
Best live Hendrix I've heard.

I still wish I had been at the Monterey Festivals.
I think those were the most significant in this country.

Woodstock was barely mentioned in most of the country until the movie promos starting telling everyone how "special" it was.
Their promotion was special.
If they had that kind of management before the event, it might have turned out better.

[smohq]

I was thinking of a burner type arts event in new england that still continues.
I can't remember the name of it.

Firefly?

http://fireflyartscollective.org/

[betrdanevr]

Woodstock had trouble attracting top names.
They lucked out or had great people signing bands.
I think it was the first venue Crosby, Stills, Nash played, wasn't it?
They did far better promoting it after it had happened than before.
Would have lost money without the movie and album.
There were a lot of big events back then until corruption wrecked it by gouging for bribes, as happened to burning man, or simply driving them out of existence.

Isle of Wight was a fairly big deal.
Best live Hendrix I've heard.

I still wish I had been at the Monterey Festivals.
I think those were the most significant in this country.

Woodstock was barely mentioned in most of the country until the movie promos starting telling everyone how "special" it was.
Their promotion was special.
If they had that kind of management before the event, it might have turned out better.

*sigh*

Probably was CSNY's first big break, but that doesn't make it any less culturally significant.

Isle of Wight was bigger and had more bands.

Movies, promotion or not, Woodstock was *the* significant festival.

I was still in high school when Woodstock "happened," and I would not have been ALLOWED to go, I can assure you. LOL I saw it at the "drive-in" -- with the ugliest man in the world, no doubt -- and I was ultra-conservative at the time and really shocked.

The next year, I was in college, with blue jeans and long hair, and wished I could have been there. I knew of one crazy dude in school who did go to Woodstock, but he did eat light bulbs.

[gyre]

Movies, promotion or not, Woodstock was *the* significant festival.

Why?
Why do you think so?
What makes it significant other than people having heard about it after it happened?

What makes it stand out compared to the better run events that pulled the big acts like the two Atlanta Pop Festivals or any of the other hundreds of events that came before and after and did the same things better?
The only act they had was Hendrix and they were very lucky to catch him as he was becoming big.
What about Monterey, Newport, the many Fillmore concerts, Wattstax, etc..
What about Cream, Mayall, Joplin, the Kinks, the Doors, Dylan, the Airplane, everybody from Motown, Stax, and the many other people that were hot at the time?

To me, Woodstock is meaningful because CSN and Hendrix played there.
They (csn) really weren't kidding when they said they hadn't played in front a large crowd before.
They had to be good to pull it off.

I like a lot of the music from the concert, but significant?
I don't get that.

I suspect the film only happened because CSN was there, and Hendrix, of course.
CSN got very big, very fast after that.

Canned Heat was there, but I'm not sure how well known they were to most people then.
Always one of my favorite groups.

(Bear's brother, who was also in Canned Heat, played my housewarming party. Same kind of music.)

[gyre]

I was thinking of a burner type arts event in new england that still continues.
I can't remember the name of it.

Firefly?

http://fireflyartscollective.org/

I think that's the one I was thinking of.
I thought it was closer to new york though.

[theCryptofishist]

There are yoga retreats all over. Look in Yoga Journal or ask your friendly neighborhood yoga teacher (no, I won't use yogi.) There are other wheels more in need of reinventing.

[missy]

What's so f bad about a little substance use! Talk to a few indigenous peoples about their shamen and their healing ceremonies. And why does everything have to be so f deep. Come live in Utah with me I can show you enough sober ass holes to last you a lifetime. There is no one anywhere giving points for a substance free life. Reality is for people who can't handle their drugs.

Duct tape Melissa

[missy]

Where the hell were you? I served fresh tuna sushi, steak, salads, bacon, eggs, potatos, coffee along with alcohol. Also, what the f did you serve others to eat?

[betrdanevr]

Movies, promotion or not, Woodstock was *the* significant festival.

Why?
Why do you think so?
What makes it significant other than people having heard about it after it happened?

What makes it stand out compared to the better run events that pulled the big acts like the two Atlanta Pop Festivals or any of the other hundreds of events that came before and after and did the same things better?
The only act they had was Hendrix and they were very lucky to catch him as he was becoming big.
What about Monterey, Newport, the many Fillmore concerts, Wattstax, etc..
What about Cream, Mayall, Joplin, the Kinks, the Doors, Dylan, the Airplane, everybody from Motown, Stax, and the many other people that were hot at the time?

To me, Woodstock is meaningful because CSN and Hendrix played there.
They (csn) really weren't kidding when they said they hadn't played in front a large crowd before.
They had to be good to pull it off.

I like a lot of the music from the concert, but significant?
I don't get that.

I suspect the film only happened because CSN was there, and Hendrix, of course.
CSN got very big, very fast after that.

Canned Heat was there, but I'm not sure how well known they were to most people then.
Always one of my favorite groups.

(Bear's brother, who was also in Canned Heat, played my housewarming party. Same kind of music.)

Well, it's just my opinion that Woodstock was the granddaddy that ushered in an era. That's all. I'm not saying that it was run well nor that it was the biggest conglomeration of big-name acts nor that there were other festivals that were "better" in significant ways.

I'd have loved to attend the Atlanta Pop Festivals. I live in Atlanta but didn't move to Georgia until '74. They would have been wonderful . . .

However, I need to correct one of your statements inasmuch as Joplin and Jefferson Airplane WERE there. And let's add Joe Cocker, Joan Baez, Arlo Guthrie, The Who, John Sebastian, Grateful Dead, etc.

Dylan didn't come because he lived too close to Woodstock and didn't like the hippies that congregated in his yard. LOL He did go to Isle of Wight.

Joni was going to be on the Dick Cavett show that Monday and couldn't come.

Cream broke up in 1968 so they couldn't have been there.

Others were invited but didn't go for various reasons, ranging from the mud, to dirty hippies being present, to having conflicts in schedule or just coming off of/going on a tour. Many kicked themselves in the butts for not going, so it's been reported.

A few reasons have been given for why The Doors didn't go, from Morrison's paranoia of being shot (go figure!) to his indecent exposure charge. He had to have special permission to go to Isle of Wight two years later because of that charge. He certainly wouldn't have gotten THAT at Burning Man. LOL

[gyre]

However, I need to correct one of your statements inasmuch as Joplin and Jefferson Airplane WERE there. And let's add Joe Cocker, Joan Baez, Arlo Guthrie, The Who, John Sebastian, Grateful Dead, etc.

Whoops!
I guess I'm thinking of the album.
And I saw a docko years ago interviewing people that didn't play.
For most of them it was the pay.
Or they weren't convinced the event would come off well, logistics and so on.

But yeah, the whole list is much more impressive.
I was referring to draw, not my favorites.

By the way, I have Johnny Winter's antique floor lamp.
We sold out some 12000 seat shows with him when he was hot.

The Who and the Airplane would have been a big draw.
I'm not sure how big Joplin was at the time, but I would have gone anywhere to see her myself.