Buring Man getting worse every year?

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Burningman getting worse every year?

Post by nugget2022 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:16 am

At one point last year, I realized that all of the people around me at some burnwait, were yuppie tourists. All of the same age group, they were mostly boring affluent couples wearing various versions of khaki. Burningman has become the trendy cool thing to do for this group, who had just discovered another type of vacation destination. Then I thought---these are the people that I think are systematically destroying what's left of SF and now they were there in Black Rock City.
Most likely they'll get bored and move on.....

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Post by gyre » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:38 am

Did you talk to these folks?
Or just going by appearances?

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Post by oneeyeddick » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:02 am

Maybe he just hates khaki.
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Post by AntiM » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:14 am

I met a family group on a Saturday, all in very neat yuppie outfits. They were the family of one of the med tent doctors, in for a day to see what their son did for volunteer work. Seemed cool to me.

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Post by Igneouss » Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:36 pm

From much reading of other folks experiences:

Seems to be that BM is always changing (dare I say evolving?).
The current event bares no resemblance to the early events.

Change happens. It should be embraced.

IMO people that constantly complain that the old days were better, simply don't get the big picture.

BM will change, has changed, always changes.

Don't like it? Stay home.

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Post by SageV » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:12 pm

Let's play jaded Burner Mad-Libs!!!

"Burning Man was so much better when _____"
"Burning Man used to be about _____ now its just about _____"
"The only people who go to Burning Man these days are _____"
"_____ are ruining Burning Man"
"I think Burning Man has been dying since _____"
"There's so many _____ camps on the playa. I think I'll start an eighties dance camp!"

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Re: Burningman getting worse every year?

Post by SageV » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:22 pm

nugget2022 wrote:At one point last year, I realized that all of the people around me at some burnwait, were yuppie tourists. All of the same age group, they were mostly boring affluent couples wearing various versions of khaki. Burningman has become the trendy cool thing to do for this group...
Don't ass-ume, that "I art more playa than thou" shit is just ugly. I got a chuckle from a virgin burner one year as he made the "khaki wearing tourist" comment about Danger Ranger as he walked by our camp.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:57 pm

I think you mean:
Let's play jaded Burner Mad-Libs!!!

"Burning Man was so much better when (subject and action)"
"Burning Man used to be about (noun) now its just about (noun)"
"The only people who go to Burning Man these days are (collective noun)"
"(Plural) are ruining Burning Man"
"I think Burning Man has been dying since (event)"
"There's so many (trend) camps on the playa. I think I'll start an eighties dance camp!"
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Re: Burningman getting worse every year?

Post by gyre » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:00 am

Sage Venkman wrote:
Don't ass-ume, that "I art more playa than thou" shit is just ugly. I got a chuckle from a virgin burner one year as he made the "khaki wearing tourist" comment about Danger Ranger as he walked by our camp.
To be fair he could still turn out to not be a serious burner, but so far, so good.

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Re: Burningman getting worse every year?

Post by wedeliver » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:57 am

gyre wrote:
Sage Venkman wrote:
Don't ass-ume, that "I art more playa than thou" shit is just ugly. I got a chuckle from a virgin burner one year as he made the "khaki wearing tourist" comment about Danger Ranger as he walked by our camp.
To be fair he could still turn out to not be a serious burner, but so far, so good.
Humm, serious bunner as opposed to someone who isn't quite so serious about their burning?

What about someone who is serious sometimes but not others?

Is this a form of racism we play, burners are this and burners are that, are burners a minority? Can we get some fucking recognition please, we don't become burners by choice, we are born this way.
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Post by gyre » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:20 am

Yes.

Born to burn.
I started out this way.

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Post by bogotron » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:34 pm

I suppose any party or cause can outgrow the good intentions of its original founders to the point it looks to them like the very thing that they were trying to get away from.

Just look at the U.S.

By the way, they don't normally put ketchup on the "French Fries" in France, but rather mayonaise. They're not even called French Fries in France or anywhere else in Europe. They're "Chips".

Anybody know the French word for French Fries?

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Post by Roberto Dobbisano » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:55 pm

Le French Fries.
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French Fries and Mayonnaise explained...

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Post by mars » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:51 pm

I find it ironic that the OP seems selfish and snobbish while he/she complains about the people who are "ruining burning man".

I bet you wouldn't like me either. But while you're snubbing me, I'm having a burn that tops my last 6.
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Post by AKAparttime » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:43 pm

bogotron wrote:I suppose any party or cause can outgrow the good intentions of its original founders to the point it looks to them like the very thing that they were trying to get away from.

Just look at the U.S.

By the way, they don't normally put ketchup on the "French Fries" in France, but rather mayonaise. They're not even called French Fries in France or anywhere else in Europe. They're "Chips".

Anybody know the French word for French Fries?
you can still find them in a news paper cones in some small towns

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Post by EspressoDude » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:05 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:Maybe he just hates khaki.
Heaven Forbid, at least they were not wearing PLAID.

(but they probably went to school to learn how to spell Burning Man, or is it Bruno Man?)
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Post by theCryptofishist » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:24 pm

bogotron wrote: Anybody know the French word for French Fries?
Pommes Frites. (I don't know if that's spelled right, but it's in the ball park.) The Belgians invented them, apparently. If they were the Flemish or the Walloons is not in my knowledge base.
And katsup and mayo are both kind of gross.
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Hell yes except...

Post by Marscrumbs » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:36 pm

Camp "It was better when" gets better every year as it adds another year's exhibit.

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Post by Marscrumbs » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:39 pm

jkisha wrote:If you feel that way about BM why bother to read and post on eplaya?

JK
Has eplaya been getting worse this year or is it my imagination

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Post by ygmir » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:38 pm

Marscrumbs wrote:
jkisha wrote:If you feel that way about BM why bother to read and post on eplaya?

JK
Has eplaya been getting worse this year or is it my imagination
totally your imagination..........I think it's fun and informative...........
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STAY HOME, IT SUCKS ASS AND THE HIPPIES HAVE LICE!

Post by Roberto Dobbisano » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:51 am

E-PLAYA SUCKS, DON'T GO!


because you know, tribe is just so much tribe-e-er and shit, and the cool people spend countless hours of their precious life digitally masturbating for all to see in front of like minded tribeanians who argue about minutae and such because E-PLAYA just aint cool enough....


yup....


e-playa is for tourists....


yup.


my soul must be khaki.

and plaid.

and i dont own a fucking tye-dyed jerry garcia shirt so i guess i'm a fucking lamo.




burning man IS getting worse each year.....thank god.....soon it'll suck so bad that even drunk frat boys won't go....
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:52 am

Attendance is getting larger every year. Does that mean it's getting better?

Where were the virgins last year?

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Post by Q. Random » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:26 pm

[quote="Ugly Dougly"]Attendance is getting larger every year. Does that mean it's getting better?

Where were the virgins last year?[/quote]

I/We was/were too busy being out on the Playa having my/our mind blown.

Comeing back again! Might see you in a couple weeks.

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kaki

Post by joemomma » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:46 pm

I wear kaki. You got a problem with that?? But when i go to BM, I get real rad and don't wear any underwear!
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Post by postcardbox » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:00 pm

This thread gave me nightmares. I dreamt that BM was being held at a college dormitory and was walking distance to Costco.

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Post by Ugly Dougly » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:52 pm

postcardbox wrote:This thread gave me nightmares. I dreamt that BM was being held at a college dormitory and was walking distance to Costco.
That's the plan for next year, actually. It's going to be more convenient, but all of the burning will be simulated or on video.

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Post by littleflower » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:23 pm

that would be great ... you wouldn't need to bring food, just hang out in costco eating samples, then back to the dorms to get wasted and have sex. perfect! i miss college life....

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Post by Dave_techie » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:11 pm

[quote="Igneouss"]From much reading of other folks experiences:

Seems to be that BM is always changing (dare I say evolving?).
The current event bares no resemblance to the early events.

Change happens. It should be embraced.

IMO people that constantly complain that the old days were better, simply don't get the big picture.

BM will change, has changed, always changes.

Don't like it? Stay home.[/quote]

Evolution isn't always beneficial

I see the integrating the theme into the post, but, I am pointing out, wrong path - not the fittest - death.

Theme camps are chosen, I don't know if the people who do the choosing have a specific agenda, but, the choice of what theme camps go where, and which theme camps get placed at all, affects the character of burning man to an extent.

This event is victim of intelligent design.

And when the intelligent designers do not possess all of the variables (they can't, they're human) bad decisions can be made.

Whether they have been or not is yet to be seen, frankly, I'm gonna go, and have the best time I possibly can.

I have a very specific agenda that should function independent of what theme camps were chosen, What media was censored in previous years, and how many frat boys show up.

Happy burn all :)

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Post by fciron » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:02 am

Burning Man gets worse every time we bitch and moan to our imaginary internet friends instead of doing something. :P

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