Quiet at the Temple burn?

danibel · Post by **danibel** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:35 am

So after last year I had hoped for a peaceful temple burn, but I got a mixed bag. I was seated to the right of the choir about 6 rows back. The howling at the full moon didn't bother me, but the group of 5 people standing behind a tripod getting screamed at to sit down, did. After a few yelps and boos you would think people would have gotten the message that those asshats were not going to sit down or move back to give others a better view. The choir song before the burn quieted down the crowd around me quite a bit, and I was grateful.

The freebird did not bother me too much, as I figured it was intentional and a tribute. No one wold be so rude as to play a song that loud during the temple burn on purpose? Right?

Should the greeters tell the newbies that the temple burn is considered a "quiet" event? Should it be a quiet event? Is is disrespectful to ask others to shush? I don't expect it to be completely silent, and if anyone is bothered by nearby noise they can get up and find another spot. I saw many sharpied messages in the portos to "shut the fuck up at the temple burn." Did this actually encourage people to howl and talk?

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:06 pm

It seems to be the same.. thing.. every.. year. People yell at others to sit down and be quiet.. then people shoosh the people telling people to sit down and be quiet. Rinse and repeat.

lemur · Post by **lemur** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:07 pm

shut up hippie.

put in some ear plugs and wear some ear muffs if ya want quiet.

goathead · Post by **goathead** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:18 pm

danibel wrote:
The freebird did not bother me too much, as I figured it was intentional and a tribute.

Freebird, played by DPW to see if they could get coyote, to run screaming into the fire.

FIGJAM · Post by **FIGJAM** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:00 pm

Fuck them!

I requested "Whipping Post"!!!!!!!!!!!!

junglesmacks · Post by **junglesmacks** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:17 pm

goathead wrote:
danibel wrote:
The freebird did not bother me too much, as I figured it was intentional and a tribute.
Freebird, played by DPW to see if they could get coyote, to run screaming into the fire.

Was that seriously a DPW event?

I loved it.

lucky420 · Post by **lucky420** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:02 pm

I liked the freebird too...

okay i admitted it, you can all throw tomatoes at me now

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:07 pm

Good luck getting anyone to agree to any rules.

RedHeaven · Post by **RedHeaven** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:28 pm

I thought the real orchestral chorus piano version of Ava maria lifted the vibe so high that all hecklers and freebirds vanished from my consciousness. It was soooooo beautiful and I hope others felt that magic, too. Pre recorded music is just too dull for these moments but live real stuff with the right sound was just an amazing gift. My friend I was with was getting too mad at the hecklers she almost killed my vibe more than the hecklers did. Focus on the good stuff and if someone is bothering you then tune it out or get closer!

Its still really quiet for that many people! LOVED IT and was silent the whole time, with Ava Maria in my heart, thanks Burners who performed that so well!!!

Nipple · Post by **Nipple** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:31 pm

Mark Corrigan wrote:Well, listen, I'm sorry if I didn't do it right and I'm sorry if you assume that I eat red meat and don't necessarily think money or Tony Blair are a bad thing, but if there isn't room here for people who stand against everything you believe in, then what sort of a hippy free-for-all is this?

MacGlenver · Post by **MacGlenver** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:20 pm

Nipple wrote:
Mark Corrigan wrote:Well, listen, I'm sorry if I didn't do it right and I'm sorry if you assume that I eat red meat and don't necessarily think money or Tony Blair are a bad thing, but if there isn't room here for people who stand against everything you believe in, then what sort of a hippy free-for-all is this?

*like*

maryanimal · Post by **maryanimal** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:56 pm

After a few "shut the fuck up"'s and a "shut up bitch" to a young girl from a guy 2 rows behind me. It got pretty quiet.The singer and choir was magnificent. It was a great temple burn. No one can ruin your burn regardless of which one it was, unless you let them.

some seeing eye · Post by **some seeing eye** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:46 am

It would be a very interesting tradition if all amplified sound in the city was turned off for the temple burn. It would be a reminder throughout the city of the moment, really just an hour or two.

Sundial · Post by **Sundial** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:06 am

The freebird did not bother me too much, as I figured it was intentional and a tribute. No one wold be so rude as to play a song that loud during the temple burn on purpose? Right?

I kinda liked it. Sort of enhanced the feeling.

maladroit · Post by **maladroit** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:11 am

some seeing eye wrote:It would be a very interesting tradition if all amplified sound in the city was turned off for the temple burn. It would be a reminder throughout the city of the moment, really just an hour or two.

That was, pretty much, how it seemed to me. Very few parties, almost no music that I could hear, and most of the art and art cars on playa were minimal or subdued lighting. I know when we set up the lighting at Zonotopia that night it was a conscious decision to only mark the stacks of dismantled plywood for safety, then turn the rest of the lights on after the temple burn.

caliban · Post by **caliban** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:06 pm

some seeing eye wrote:It would be a very interesting tradition if all amplified sound in the city was turned off for the temple burn. It would be a reminder throughout the city of the moment, really just an hour or two.

mmmm, EMP bomb...

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:12 pm

For the love of Dog put this thread in a 2012 rustbucket.

Foxfur · Post by **Foxfur** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:53 pm

caliban wrote:
some seeing eye wrote:It would be a very interesting tradition if all amplified sound in the city was turned off for the temple burn. It would be a reminder throughout the city of the moment, really just an hour or two.
mmmm, EMP bomb...

Looks like I just found my project for next year...

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:50 am

Quiet? Okay, but when they ask me to sit down......

MY GOD IS A STANDING GOD !

lazerfox · Post by **lazerfox** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:45 am

were we the only ones who did not hear a choir sing?

Overall my section got very quiet and the burn was amazing...but honestly why are tall folks wanting to be in the front just to stand up?? Move your ass back or sit your ass down so us short people who are actually trying to share the experience with others and are sitting can have at least a glance at the Temple. You standing-tall-self-righteous fucks are not more important than everyone who is sitting.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:59 am

lazerfox wrote:were we the only ones who did not hear a choir sing?

Overall my section got very quiet and the burn was amazing...but honestly why are tall folks wanting to be in the front just to stand up?? Move your ass back or sit your ass down so us short people who are actually trying to share the experience with others and are sitting can have at least a glance at the Temple. You standing-tall-self-righteous fucks are not more important than everyone who is sitting.

wrist rocket and marbles.

jerroc · Post by **jerroc** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:18 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:Quiet? Okay, but when they ask me to sit down......

MY GOD IS A STANDING GOD !

Stand all you want I just hope you are considerate enough to not block anyone's view. I do what I can to be sure my actions do not effect other people's experience. Who ever played free bird was inconsiderate. I plan to bring my ear buds to avoid this if it happens next year. As far as big sound camps I say let them play but ask they turn it down some. There are some that would rather be at a sound camp than at the temple burn. its not right to restrict their experience so we can have ours at the temple.

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:44 pm

Got it. Standing is not really enjoying the Burn with others. Standing is the one freedom that trumps Chinese lanterns in offensiveness. Huge mutant vehicles and those sky cranes are okay because those folks must be important. No complaints. Besides, huge metal blocking views is okay compared to flesh and blood. Standing peons are the problem. But if I happen to arrive early, stand with a group of others and someone shows up late, sits behind me on a law chair, and demands my crippled friend and I to sit on the ground, well, we'd better be considerate of others and respect their rights and do just as they want from us.....otherwise WE would be self-righteous control freaks trying to control other people's burn. Got it. But do I believe it?

Considerate of others, as long as they make my life better......sure, just like everyone.

jerroc · Post by **jerroc** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:04 pm

Show up early, claim you are crippled, Point fingers at others that are being more inconsiderate than you is no excuse for being an asshole. When most people who are sitting are asking you to sit I would take rewiew as who is being self righteous.

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:10 pm

jerroc wrote:Show up early, claim you are crippled, Point fingers at others that are being more inconsiderate than you is no excuse for being an asshole. When most people who are sitting are asking you to sit I would take rewiew as who is being self righteous.

We sat until my buddy couldn't take it, then we moved back. Yeah, so inconsiderate and self-righteous of us assholes. Most people weren't telling anyone to do anything....just the whinners and control freaks...... Continue on........

'Cause I'm as free as a bird now
And this bird you can not change.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:36 pm

I'll up you all one..

No more FUCKING TEMPLE BURNS...

Now shut the fuck up and sit down or stand up if your already sitting..

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:24 pm

And this, oh best beloved, is why I don't go to the burns. I have nice time watching from Esplanade.

jerroc · Post by **jerroc** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:06 pm

No need to continue. I Can't argue with stupid.

Lonesomebri · Post by **Lonesomebri** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:29 pm

jerroc wrote:No need to continue. I Can't argue with stupid.

Between dictating how others live, and calling strangers stupid, you really appear to be a kind considerate community based spirit.
When the control freaks demanded I sit, i complied, but joke about it, and even that is too much for them to handle......

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:56 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:
jerroc wrote:No need to continue. I Can't argue with stupid.
Between dictating how others live, and calling strangers stupid, you really appear to be a kind considerate community based spirit.
When the control freaks demanded I sit, i complied, but joke about it, and even that is too much for them to handle......

That's okay, you can imagine how I would have torn into him if he'd told me to get down. And once again, that's why I don't go to burns....

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