Things I learned this time...

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Things I learned this time...

Post by Otisserie » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:50 am

1. Bring warm stuff that's also artistic - I fortunately brought enough warm things to wear for Thursday night, but sacrificed all attempts at costuming in the process. Next time, they will be warm and interesting.

2. Limit the amount of food that needs to be refridgerated - I brought sandwich meats and cheeses and several other things that required refridgeration, and just couldn't make enough ice runs to keep it all cold. I wound up throwing out most of it.

3. Do everything you can to prevent invited newbies from bringing their friends - Two veteran burners in our camp each invited friends whom they thought would appreciated the experience. However, each of those friends then turned around and invited someone else to come with them. In both cases, the extra person turned out to be the problem. In one case a woman brought her mother who just couldn't handle the heat and dust, so she had to baby-sit her, and the burner who'd invited her then felt guilty for leaving them at camp to go out. In the other case, the newbie brought his conservative brother thinking BM would loosen him up. It didn't. He spent his time talking about all the "bitches, hos and fags" walking around, and choking on the dust, and his brother and the burner who'd invited him had to spend time dealing with him. The guy actually cheered when the truck was finally loaded up to go home. In both cases, the newbies admitted that they would never have brought these people had they understood what BM was like.

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Post by Interested bystander » Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:35 am

I'm glad you mentioned the newbie part. That's one thing that has really bothered me the last few years. Because of the publicity and veteran burners telling everyone they meet "ya gotta try it", there are tons of people attending BM now that just shouldn't. It's not an experience for everyone. What this does is give us huge crowds and decrease the enjoyment of those that should be there.

I was also bothered by a conversation I overheard in the cafe while waiting in the coffee line. A couple of people in their early 20s were in front of me talking and I heard one say "I've been drunk on my ass, higher than a kite, eaten like a king, and all for just showing up". The guy was bragging about leaching off other people and not preparing to survive on his own.

While I'm at it I was also bothered by a guy riding around asking people for their ticket stubs so he could get his buddies who had shown up in for the $20 return fee.

Don't get me wrong, there are lots of wonderful people at BM but my encounters with the other side have been increasing geometrically with the increasing attendance.

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Post by spectabillis » Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:09 am

"Things I learned this time..."

Flamethrowers and hair don't mix, and never cuttle with a hottie when naked on the playa. (strange: erection's make some people *really* nervous)

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Post by Blonde Iguana » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:26 am

I learned to stay away from Astral Headwash, because I was apparently not sexy or cool enough for them to do more than turn me away (I didn't even want my hair washed, I just wanted to ask them about it later on down the week). I was more than ready to bring water, gifts, stories, anything. My friend and I were rather snootily rebuffed, being informed that they were "just a camp" and didn't wash other people's hair (???). Stupid newbie me, they were on the theme camp list so I thought they were a theme camp. Ha. For a couple of days I was afraid to approach another theme camp for fear of being snubbed.

That was the only negative event, though....the rest of the experience was incredible, I met a plethora of wonderful incredible people that soon diminished the Astral Headwash experience into a stinky little nugget that I left far far behind me.
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Post by stuart » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:30 pm

perfectionism on a large scale and the playa do not mix. Not only do they not mix but they can result in a sharp kick in the nuts

fucking spend time with new people you think rock rather than with people you have met before who never turn out to be anything but sketchy tweakers. Drive your own goddamned social bus for a fucking change.

whiteouts can be fun. 2 days of sustained whiteouts can wreak havoc on your grand plans.

people have different levels of emotional investment in your camps success. If you are the one with the highest level be prepared to be kicked sharply in the nuts by those around you who don't care as much.

Burning Man can suck.

The highest of highs can be beat down by the lowest of lows.

If you work your ass off and have a good end result people will notice and tell you and it will make you feel better about the fact that your camp was fucked by thursday.

RP is not a good idea during dusty years.
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Post by stuart » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:34 pm

perfectionism on a large scale and the playa do not mix. Not only do they not mix but they can result in a sharp kick in the nuts

fucking spend time with new people you think rock rather than with people you have met before who never turn out to be anything but sketchy tweakers. Drive your own goddamned social bus for a fucking change.

whiteouts can be fun. 2 days of sustained whiteouts can wreak havoc on your grand plans.

people have different levels of emotional investment in your camps success. If you are the one with the highest level be prepared to be kicked sharply in the nuts by those around you who don't care as much.

Burning Man can suck.

The highest of highs can be beat down by the lowest of lows.

If you work your ass off and have a good end result people will notice and tell you and it will make you feel better about the fact that your camp was fucked by thursday.

RP is not a good idea during dusty years.
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Post by jbelson » Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:55 pm

No more easy up shades. Brought 2 this year, they worked okay, but didn't give me the shade I wanted. Too flappy too in the wind. Next year I believe I'm going for tow car port structures. Those seemed to work well for the camps that I was in.
And keep meals simple! You dont want to cook too much when it's dusty, much less windy for 4 days straight.

Also, you get a lot more from the event by giving. I went into it with the intention to give and not recieve and had a great time and everyone was happy to meet me.
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Post by alienfry » Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:21 pm

do not rely on burning man. not for art not for love not for inspiration. rely on YOURSELF for these things. bring them to share; do not expect reciprocation. let it come. let go of all expectations from years past and LET THE PRESENT COME.

be honest and upfront with people you don't want in your camp. it will be a better burn for all involved if no one is imposing OR tolerating. life in camp should be fluid and natural.

bring a bigger evap pool. we had to fill THREE empty ice chests with grey water to dump back home in LA.

GUARD YOUR EVAP POOL. your neighbors are evil. they WILL dump their shit in yours.

if you bring a tablet to record your adventures, use it. this year i was drunk a lot and am still piecing together all the fun i had.

give up on the dinner party idea. or have it earlier in the week. come thursday everyone will be consumed by the many delightful distractions and they will forget about the planned dinner party. (i was the guilty one. me and the other person who organized the damn thing both slept thru it)

it is worth getting to the man 2 hours before burn time. it really is.

canadian government and politics are 1238094791825798345 times better than america's. and their people just seem smarter. i am a traitor, i know.

if you wander with faith, you WILL find those delicious Deep House beats and you WILL find those camps blairing Rock N Roll. you CAN have a burn with minimal trance and cheezy house mixing.

don't wear your heavy costumes during the day. i barfed purple in the heat.

los angeles heads are way too snobby about music.

need more fire.

and i learned other things about myself too.
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Post by thinkcooper » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:04 pm

a long faux fur coat at night invites lots of caresses and snuggling

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Post by Otisserie » Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:43 pm

1. If you wander away from your friends at night, then they're gone and you won't find them again. Don't spend hours trying. Just go out and find something/someone else.

2. There will always be more things going on than you can possibly do. You will miss cool things. Let it go.

3. If you're going to do E, then do it with your friends. That way if you're an etard you'll know where to find them later to apologize.

4. There are many assholes at Burning Man; always were, always will be. Don't let them define your experience.

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Post by JezebelinHell » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:53 pm

It's really easy to fall madly in love with someone in two days on the playa. It's also a really really bad idea.

Don't EVER leave camp without your goggles unless you want to be stuck at some other camp for several hours because you can't leave the shade structure. Fortunately for me, the shade structure I got stuck in was full of really cool people and I had a blast, but it could have been a really bad situation.

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What I learned at BM 2004

Post by Sobretta Franjipan » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:39 pm

Pee funnels don't work with shit.

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Post by Lysergic » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:07 am

Finally I'm no longer a newbie burner! My experiences were definitely mixed, and now I realize my wrongs and rights. My best friend and I will definitely have a way better burn next year though!

BRING A BIKE, it's soooooooooooooooooo vitally important. I knew I should have brought mine, but was pressed on time/space so I left it at home, BIG FUCKING MISTAKE! I seriously must have walked a good 15 miles a day trying to see 'everything.' Damn my feet hurt now, but didn't really get playa foot, thank god for those vinegar foot washes! And I have holes in my shoes in the weirdest places, I think the acidic dust straight up cracked all sorts of little holes everywhere. Upon arriving, all my clothes and pretty much everything else got caked with playa dust too.

The harsh heat of the day wiped me out, and the cold nights nearly froze my balls off and ruined any of my costume ideas. I didn't even bring any shorts(stupid me), just light-weight pants which I'm sure helped contribute to my near goddamn heat-stroke! Also these pants didnt have any pockets so I often ended up leaving something at camp behind that I needed later, or straight up lost some stuff hiking around--oops sorry for the moop, I'm sure people quickly picked up the stuff and used it to their delight :?

I brought ski-goggles that really sucked to wear at night cause I couldn't see shit through them. So I ended up getting a lot of dust in my eyes trying to make sure I could see so I wouldn't get run over by people cruising around in their bikes or art vehicles.

I camped with some people that didn't really have their shit together and didn't want to bother moving mid-week to another location. We didn't have any shade structure and so I found myself in my tent a lot hiding from the sun, which ended up being hotter then outside air with a slight breeze. In the end I realized where the best spot for me to camp is, and how important it is to camp with people who aren't ducking crazy.

Because we camped with these people around 2:30, and the fact that we didn't have bikes, ice runs were very difficult, and most of our meat went bad, damnit! Getting anywhere was really difficult, and I forgot to bring a watch so I couldn't attend a lot of the events in a timely manner.

Some of my gift ideas didn't turn out that great, and now I have better ideas on what to bring next year.

We brought way too much shit-just so it can all get lost or playa dusted. Next year its all about minimalization. Less shit to pack in, even less shit to take out.

I don't know if it was me or what but I didn't meet as many people as I thought I would. It seemed like a lot of camps were secluded and I wasn't sure if I should poke around to find people or see the hidden marvels. It seemed a bit cliquey like one big giant bar instead of a house party.

I didn't know how the bars and art cars worked, and only ended up getting on a couple art cars and getting a couple of the only cold drinks I had the entire week. Much props to biergarden! By the time I figured out all this shit the week was almost over and everything was way over crowded.

I ended up showing up to the burn of the man right as he fell over hehe and to the temple burn after most of the stuff had burned away except for the steeple that wouldn't fall over. I did get to see all those firefly embers that came crashing down into the crowd hitting me and other people like meteors out of the nite sky--too cool :o

Well anyway my 2 cents, hope everyone had fun and I can't wait till next year when I can do it our right!
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Post by PetsUntilEaten » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:57 am

• remember to FREEZE WATER BOTTLES to use as ice & later cold drinking water - why do I always forget?

• the FIRST HOURS you arrive are important for everyone. I've had my mind & ass saved by people who offered a beer, hello or a hand - just to take the "fuck I have to set up & make camp" edge off. I made a really big effort to make every later arrival have pleasant beginning & it really benefited me as well.

( Longer story - I adopted a Polish man/newbie named Marek, who arrived late at night - I was going to bed & saw him in the street in his RV all alone. I made him a drink, talked with him, took him to the Man to see Brian read his Burning Man book in the dust storm with Flash looking on & laughing - if it wasn't for him I'd have missed the whole thing too. Marek added to our whole experience - truely lovely. And to top it off Marek said he came by himself because he had no family in the US - he came out to find his family - a sweet 60-something semi-conservative bear of a man setting out to find a new family. . . damn.)

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Post by Zeejay » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 pm

Make friends with your nieghbors early, pool your camp with the right people and you get twice the experience, we had such a great camp this year due to this.

Don't be shy, take every chance you get to meet people, the more you put yourself out there the more you will recieve in return. I missed a couple chances myself and i'm still regreting it.

See you next year :)

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Re: What I learned at BM 2004

Post by Quickener » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:56 pm

Sobretta Franjipan wrote:Pee funnels don't work with shit.
The signs advertising pee funnels all warned that the directions must be read. If you did not read them and got pee on yourself, that's what you get. If a guy gave you one and didn't tell you the directions then you should pee on him in return. If you followed the directions and it leaked or something, well the directions also said that Zoe (I think that's her name) made 1700 of these to hand out to people and as a result her QA wasn't quite as good as in years past. The directions also said to test it with water first.

I'm wagering that you didn't read the directions, didn't have the common sense to figure it out, and splashed pee all over your leg 1 or 2 times, then deciding it's a stupid idea.

My lady fell in love with hers. She even peed in the urinal pottie without waiting in line, just by putting it under her skirt. I was happier too, because I could carry tall skinny jugs to the pottie rather than short wide ones that spill on my hands.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:44 pm

If you run into cheap flashlights during the year--buy them. Those 6 fiftycenters I had brought to gift ended up being my main source of light.

What's that? If I had taken care of my maglight properly it wouldn't have fused in the intervening year? Well, lay-di-dah *Mr* organized.

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Post by jbelson » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:56 pm

Be wary of the cheap batteries. They will die on you when your way out in the abyss.
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what i learned at burning man

Post by vulgaris » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:35 pm

Little men pull levers and turn cranks inside of my head

gasoline smells kinda good at first, but after three days of inhaling it your nose really does start to BURN A LITTLE, FUCK YOU GOPED ASSHOLES GET OFF YOUR SHIT AND WALK FOR ONCE.

My camp kicks ass

People that grope you inside of a funhouse are usually hairy 30 something mouth breathers

Fursuiting is a good way to keep warm

Ice in the desert is the only way a gin and tonic will ever taste good

If God doesn't like the way the energy in your camp is flowing it may decide to help you redecorate and it may not bother to ask permission first

the happy birthday song is the last thing i need to hear while taking a shit

The chicks at the red tent are very understanding

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Post by Lydia Love » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:40 pm

camping with the cleverest, wittiest people you know will mean almost never getting out of camp.

it's hard to mind seeing nothing when you've been entertained by the cleverest, wittiest people you know.

don't judge shit you don't really know about. I went into this year poo-pooing the very idea of the art car, spent half the week sneering over motorized transport and then ended up spending most of the last two days on one - having a total fucking and completely necessary blast.

don't get on an art car without your water bottle and chapstick. who fucking knows when you'll see your camp next.
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Post by morgbert » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:38 pm

Quickener, she said pee funnels don't work WITH shit. Prepositions are so important... that's what I've learned.

Also, apparently I will have at least one hissy fit each year no matter what, so I may as well get it out of the way quickly.

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Post by eatdrinkadam » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:17 am

bring a new suit for each day... color coordinate your ties.

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hey

Post by Lysergic » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:28 am

Did I mention bring a bike? Hmmm, well just make sure you do!
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Post by Quickener » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:20 am

morgbert wrote:Quickener, she said pee funnels don't work WITH shit. Prepositions are so important... that's what I've learned.

Also, apparently I will have at least one hissy fit each year no matter what, so I may as well get it out of the way quickly.
Oops! :oops: My bad. Moving on...

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Re: what i learned at burning man

Post by Rob the Wop » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:49 am

vulgaris wrote: People that grope you inside of a funhouse are usually hairy 30 something mouth breathers
Oh great. Here I am a hairy 30 something mouth breather and I completely missed the funhouse. Fine. I'll just have to grope myself, I suppose. You people just have to tell me ahead of time when they build a camp specifically for me.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:23 am

Now, now, RtW as you recall, we had our own network TV show in the early 90s. Who could forget "hairysomething"'s heartwarming story arcs about beautiful, photogenic, hirsute yuppies and their genetically enhanced offspring. It lasted several seasons before TV Guide gave it a "Zero" for "Consistantly shameless dipictions of back and butt hair, braided, dyed and otherwise coiffed." Which led to a quick cancellation. Oh and all those protests about broadcast TV's first heavy mouth breath to heavy mouth breath "eskimo" kiss.



Wait did that happen? Oh I hate messing with the timeline before my morning coffee's kicked in!

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Post by mars » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:47 pm

I learned that the best footwear for this playa dancer is wool socks. My feet were soooo comfortable, for the first time on the playa, that i ended up wearing my one pair of wool socks for the last three nights there. I had another pair of thin socks on underneath--it was awesome. The only problem was that the bike pedals were slightly uncomfortable and next year I'm going to have attachable shoe soles I can put on the pedals at night and I'm going to bring one pair of wool socks for each night.

I also learned-again (I keep forgetting)- that i'd rather drink hot soup for dinner than eat just about anything. And that even though I cut my watermelon purchases by half this year, I need to cut it in half again for next year and bring only one small watermelon.

I learned that the happier i dress myself, the more comfortable I am meeting people and the more I participate and the more I give, the more i get, though that's not the reason for participating or giving.

I learned that warm comfy costumes for night time, make for a more fun night.

I learned that there is never enough time when you are in the vault of heaven.

I learned that it is quite special to have a name that happens to fit the theme--except that when your personal street name is where the porto-potties are, you become the "butt" of many jokes, like "I'm gonna go shit on Mars". All I could say was, "Those poor people living on Yer Anus!"

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Post by Layne » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:28 pm

Stuart what you said speaks fucking VOLUMES.

If you're spending time with people who turn out to be tweakers make the change. You control your environment!!! I roamed the playa many nights alone and had the best time ever.
people have different levels of emotional investment in your camps success. If you are the one with the highest level be prepared to be kicked sharply in the nuts by those around you who don't care as much
this is so true, don't have expectations of people in your camp and you won't be let down. this year my camp blew me away in terms of involvement and partcipation my smile couldn't have gotten any bigger.
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Post by Layne » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:28 pm

Stuart what you said speaks fucking VOLUMES.

If you're spending time with people who turn out to be tweakers make the change. You control your environment!!! I roamed the playa many nights alone and had the best time ever.
people have different levels of emotional investment in your camps success. If you are the one with the highest level be prepared to be kicked sharply in the nuts by those around you who don't care as much
this is so true, don't have expectations of people in your camp and you won't be let down. this year my camp blew me away in terms of involvement and partcipation my smile couldn't have gotten any bigger.
Burning Man can suck
and it can also kick major ass :D
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Post by prick » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:57 pm

bring a realistic toy gun. it turns you into a maniac. and it offers a nice counterpoint to all the love.

when you're all cracked out at 3 a.m. in a sweaty-assed dome full of people swapping bodily fluids, do not under any circumstances cover your head with a blanket. people kept getting pissed off at me for stepping on their heads, but they looked like pillows, and i was too busy with my own hallucinations to keep track of which pillows simply seemed like they were moving around and which ones actually were moving around.

k-y makes a pretty decent massage oil when you and your friends are rolling around like retards. you end up being surprisingly supple the next day.

when you see tea or brownies or cookies or an aspirin bottle, don't take them at face value. ask around a bit.

marco polo is not the best way to keep track of your friends late at night. it works in grocery stores, but somehow when you yell "marco!" at burning man, every single person within earshot gets all excited and wants to play along.

neither are walkie-talkies. there's what, 20 bands to choose from? split that up between 40,000 and you get a bunch of frustration. plus, walking around talking into your walkie talkie doesn't make you look important. it makes you look like an asshole on a cell phone. and the constant high-pitched beep does nothing for your general late-night confusion.

people don't necessarily want to have sex with you. but damn near everyone will make out with you if you ask 'em nicely. keep a bottle of listerine stashed next to your nalgene.

you will lose your nalgene about 10 minutes after getting there. but don't freak out. there's water bottles galore just begging to be reused, and besides, you'll find a nalgene sitting in the middle of the playa by day 3 with no one around to claim it.

do not, under any circumstances, leave your camp without a cup, or you will end up rooting around the garbage bins at the deep end and drinking bloody marys that taste vaguely of red bull.

at burning man, everything is perfectly safe to play on or around, and nothing is communicable. but wear a condom anyway, just to stay in practice.

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