I feel Burning Man is a White thing

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by danwax » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:01 am

Verbal assault on a french burner, seems quite common in Nevada, as I see :)

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:07 am

i fully understand how that poor american man feels....

except, i would have used physical violence.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:08 am

You'll find what you're looking for, Dan.

I pity you your vision. And seriously question why you'd even want to go, under the circumstances.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by The CO » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:15 am

GreyCoyote wrote:...Do we LOOK like we care? Some guy just clattered by on a home-made, steam-powered, eight-legged metal crawler. Do you honestly think I'm looking at YOU and saying "Oh wow. There goes the neighborhood! Looks like we got ourselves another (insert random racial slur here)".

I am in love with this statement.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Roberto Dobbisano » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:18 am

maybe he'll understand this...
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:19 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bien joué!!!
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by BBadger » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:47 am

The CO wrote:
GreyCoyote wrote:...Do we LOOK like we care? Some guy just clattered by on a home-made, steam-powered, eight-legged metal crawler. Do you honestly think I'm looking at YOU and saying "Oh wow. There goes the neighborhood! Looks like we got ourselves another (insert random racial slur here)".

I am in love with this statement.
Yeah, that's an awesome statement and really sums the situation up.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Elliot » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:49 am

abkiwi wrote:This was my first year and got the overall impression that this must be an amazing event for white people. I gained courage to walk up to people and say hello, but not a one came up to me. I'm a generally friendly person and have no problems meeting people in my life/striking up conversations with strangers, but I felt totally out of place at Burning Man. I wish I was white. Oh well.
Hey there, Abkiwi, and welcome to ePlaya.

Interesting to have an Aboriginal New Zealander here -- if I understand your name correctly. A fascinating culture, from what little I know about it.

As someone mentioned, the skin-color makeup of Burning Man has been discussed at length here over the years. I wish I were qualified to address it.

But I should mention that you accidentally stumbled into a pre-existing shitstorm. The rampant asshattery in this thread has precious little to do with you. The combatants have been at each others' throats for years. And some of them are "socks" -- the same people posting under false identities -- even arguing "among themself". (Under better circumstances, this can qualify as art.) You just happened to "come around the corner" as a brawl was ready to break out anyway.

Please believe me, there are countless threads on ePlaya that are not only civilized, but full of information and humor. Please look around, and feel free to participate in discussions that interest you.

I would like to apologize for what happened on your thread, but I do not have the authority to do that. So it will have to come from one of us at the time.

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Elderberry » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Not me! No socks ever. I am who I am, and don't feel the need to hide or confuse by using alter egos.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Lonesomebri » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:27 pm

It's too bad that someone would feel at burning Man that skin color has led to excluding them from the event. Maybe they should talk to the dude running the Soul Train, he's there every year....Once you enter my house, it's our house.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by gyre » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:28 pm

Agreed

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Elliot » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:59 pm

jkisha wrote:Not me! No socks ever. I am who I am, and don't feel the need to hide or confuse by using alter egos.
I was hoping my post would serve to discourage further salvos on this thread between long-established combatants, but I failed.

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Elderberry » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:04 pm

Elliot wrote:
jkisha wrote:Not me! No socks ever. I am who I am, and don't feel the need to hide or confuse by using alter egos.
I was hoping my post would serve to discourage further salvos on this thread between long-established combatants, but I failed.
LOL. Yes, you have. But don't take it personally.

On another note, isn't the roller disco put on and run by a black man too?
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:19 pm

this one was commissioned.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by GreyCoyote » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:24 pm

Blue Man Group forerunner? :mrgreen:
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by H.G.Crosby » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:29 pm

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:40 pm

GreyCoyote wrote:Blue Man Group forerunner? :mrgreen:
The QQQ. Quorum de Québecois Qualifiés.

If you're not wearing pure laine blue, you just don't belong.
Worry is a misuse of imagination

She had blue skin, And so did he.
He kept it hid And so did she.
They searched for blue Their whole life through,
Then passed right by- And never knew.”

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by some seeing eye » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:45 pm

To the original poster, it's something we need to discuss in the Burningman world and act on.

To the thread, say you were transported solo into the people of Cameron's Avatar. How would you feel?

BM presents (sells) itself as world changing. Let's get serious about it.

(I'm not talking ePlaya serious)
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by GreyCoyote » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:03 pm

some seeing eye wrote:
To the thread, say you were transported solo into the people of Cameron's Avatar. How would you feel?)
Ummm... Maybe a little blue? (((ducking!))) :mrgreen:
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:05 pm

delle wrote:
GreyCoyote wrote:Blue Man Group forerunner? :mrgreen:
The QQQ. Quorum de Québecois Qualifiés.

If you're not wearing pure laine blue, you just don't belong.
3 "Q's"........... one more and you could get to tell him 4Q?
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:10 pm

ygmir wrote: 3 "Q's"........... one more and you could get to tell him 4Q?
No. Since phonetically that comes out as "Phoque You" and that is now illegal.

Unless you have a Sealing Permit.

Chances of that are Phoquing slim.
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She had blue skin, And so did he.
He kept it hid And so did she.
They searched for blue Their whole life through,
Then passed right by- And never knew.”

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by ygmir » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:15 pm

delle wrote:
ygmir wrote: 3 "Q's"........... one more and you could get to tell him 4Q?[/quote

No. Since phonetically that comes out as "Phoque You" and that is now illegal.

Unless you have a Sealing Permit.

Chances of that are Phoquing slim.
there is that.........*snickering*..........
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by maladroit » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:13 pm

You should eat this, danwax...you sort of turn into a racist [edit] when you're hungry.

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Feel better now?


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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Eric » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:21 pm

Okay fuckos, simmer down. Getting pissed at a post or someones ...viewpoint... is one thing, but it's turning into just out-and-out attacks. You are free to get as pissed as you want about the statements made, but try not to cross the line - it's covered in a lot of gray, and none of us want to be censors.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by maladroit » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 pm

*grumbles and dunks torch in water, returns pitchfork to the shed*

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by delle » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:11 pm

*Whistles for the dog to follow. "Party in the Shed!!!"*
Worry is a misuse of imagination

She had blue skin, And so did he.
He kept it hid And so did she.
They searched for blue Their whole life through,
Then passed right by- And never knew.”

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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by maryanimal » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:25 pm

Thank you for posting this Lonesomebri! I've never seen this video.

I was raised to be colorblind. My mom was discriminated against as a non-speaking Sicilian child. I've listened to Martin Luther King Jr.'s speech many times, and one of my favorite lines was this : "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

When I go to the playa, I see many faces of happiness, brethren and sisterhood. We're all there for many purposes, one being a collective of souls and spirits of the human family.


Lonesomebri wrote:It's too bad that someone would feel at burning Man that skin color has led to excluding them from the event. Maybe they should talk to the dude running the Soul Train, he's there every year....Once you enter my house, it's our house.
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by BBadger » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:49 pm

maladroit wrote:You should eat this, danwax...you sort of turn into a Kenny G [edit] when you're hungry.

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Feel better now?


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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Captain Goddammit » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:17 pm

BBadger wrote:
maladroit wrote:You should eat this, danwax...you sort of turn into a Kenny G [edit] when you're hungry.
Now that's an insult... I've met Kenny... did crane work at his house... would have liked to drop a few tons on him from great height...
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Re: I feel Burning Man is a White thing

Post by Lonesomebri » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:31 pm

I've seen that white leathered cat give the speech from his Soul Train at least 3 different years on the playa.
It's inspiring, and I don't dance.

As Eric has pointed out (I hope i get this right) with people seeking solutions at Burning Man to their own personal problems or quests, that's alot of responsibility and expectations to put on the event. The same goes for social and cultural issues. BM can't fix it all. As has also been pointed out by other great minds, it's not the salvation of the fallen world either. So it has many of the flaws found in the world in which it exists. Might not be right, or intentional, or by design, or whatever. As with anything else at Burning Man, if you notice something lacking that you want there, bring it.

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