Radically new themecamp placement layout

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Postby bullD » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:01 pm

thread drift,,, weeeeeeeeeeeeee....

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Postby sputnik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:06 pm

OK, let's bring this one back home.

Late last year I proposed abandoning the large semi-circle in favor of many smaller circles arrayed across the playa.

Now, that would be radical.

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Postby bullD » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:07 pm

tribes, w'ed have tribes on our hands...

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Postby sputnik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:11 pm

Which would be followed by tribal warfare I suppose. I think I may put some more thought into this, even though it is unlikely to result in anything.

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Postby bullD » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:14 pm

engaging in thought is better than not...

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Postby LeChatNoir » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:16 pm

Which would be followed by tribal warfare


And we could raid each other for beer/food/women/men/whatever
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Postby bullD » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:19 pm

my tribe is the 'shroomy shroomy' tribe. lol

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Postby mamagrrl » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:59 pm

Aw, man.
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Postby Badger » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:51 pm

Did mean ring roads BTW.
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Postby Chai Guy » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:15 pm

Now, that would be radical.


Umm... Don't you mean "radial"??

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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:23 am

Let't take this to the logical conclusion and fold time so that while there are always a few people on the playa year round, they all are at the event at the same time. This ought to make is possible to have the entire world attend.
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Postby Taz » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:23 am

So what are they going to do with blocks 2 and 3? Put in a garden? :roll:

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Postby alienfry » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:47 pm

[quote]OK, let's bring this one back home.

Late last year I proposed abandoning the large semi-circle in favor of many smaller circles arrayed across the playa.

Now, that would be radical.[/quote]

i think that would be WICKED. i've always imagined what it would be like if another city / festival occured simultaneously out on the playa, maybe a couple miles from BRC. a distance glow, each would be to the other. 12 o'clocks facing each other. a prettier fence at the perimeter. a gate. art buses transporting participants of each one to the other to visit. some people on foot. that'd be some crazy adventure happening.
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Postby sputnik » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:17 am

Thanks Alienfry. BTW, you should uncheck the box below the post that says Disable BBCode in this post when you quote someone, or go to your profile and turn it on permanently.

My biggest concern with this idea is how to fill each 'town' with people so that one isn't overloaded and another too lightly filled.

Tonight I'll work on the concept some more. I believe that I know the size of the city (the pentagonal trash fence that surrounds it is described as being 7.5 miles in circumfrence)

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Postby robotland » Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:50 am

Well, it looks as though urban renewal will occur on some level, at least....Thoughts on the modified theme camp layout? Hopefully, between the jagged theme-camp borders and the rotating Man, we should have ourselves some relatively entertaining confusion....
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Postby unjonharley » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:02 am

How about a Borg#3¿ All the independent artist (with out the big money) Set up our art displays along a outer ring street. Say spreading out in both directions from six 0clock
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Postby theCryptofishist » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:06 am

Cool. "Take back" the event by putting all the "pure art" on "sedna."
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Postby unjonharley » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:16 am

theCryptofishist wrote:Cool. "Take back" the event by putting all the "pure art" on "sedna."


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Postby bullD » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:46 pm

pure art,,, uncut art?

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Postby sputnik » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:25 pm

OK, so I worked up a sample map. Meandering paths between villages would be better, but I would imagine people would prefer to walk the straight line. Map to scale.

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Postby unjonharley » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:48 pm

bullD wrote:pure art,,, uncut art?

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Postby robotland » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:40 am

sputnik wrote:OK, so I worked up a sample map. Meandering paths between villages would be better, but I would imagine people would prefer to walk the straight line. Map to scale.

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Nicely done.
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Postby Lassen Forge » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:12 pm

I like the concept - looks like it'd work for the increased number of visitors to the Playa... and, as the villages grow, they'll overlap, merging with one another. Yet each would retain it's individual flavor... I think what I like best, tho, is it uses the entire footprint of the city pentagram - does away with the "big open hole" at the end. Altho from a visual impact standpoint ("framing the man") it's nice, from a logistical standpoint it's gonna be tough when we get to 75K inhabitants. As it is, it's been squeezing itself closed gradually, eventually it'll either have to close in or there'll be a whole rack of streets all the way out to 447...

Going with the village concept it will give more room for the growth that is pretty much inevitable. Plus... it looks nice!

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Postby sputnik » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:56 am

OMG, if we ever get to 75K people we're going to need more space than currently is allocated out there. Maybe grow the pentagon a bit and move deeper into the playa. At that point you probably really have to be concerned with exodus. Might even want to spread it over 3 or 4 days.

Logistics are a concern in this plan. Basically you end up needing a service road that runs the whole perimeter. However, in some ways that isn't too bad. You tell tell people in cars to follow the fence and turn in when they come to the village they are camping in

I also envisioned each circular area being subdivided by 4 radial roads and then circular streets with a center clearing for major artwork.

OR

Each village could be pentagon shaped too with 5 radial roads and straight streets that follow the outline. Or even mix it all up. One village square, one triangluar, one round, etc So many possibilities for being radical here.

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Postby robotland » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:39 am

1988: 8 people
2004: 30,000 (and change) people

If this trend continues, we'll be needing a Dyson Sphere!
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Postby sputnik » Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:30 pm

OK. For fun I got the attendance numbers from the afterburn report and plugged them into my computer. If you just look at attendance for the past 10 years and then perform a linear extrapolation on the data, you reach 75K in 2016. For 2004 I used 37,500 since that was a number I heard.

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