Burning Man 2006

Fire Wire · Post by **Fire Wire** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:04 am

I'm an norwegian man at the age of 46... Me and my friend Tor participate BM 2004 when we stay with dear old Fred Hagey' and he's Black Rock International Burner Hostel. and we will be back next year. The count down has alredy started......

SEE YA AT BURNING MAN 2006

Fire Wire (Tor 2)

phil · Post by **phil** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:34 am

Hello, Tor,

I was 48 on my first Burn. I hope to see you there in 2006.

Phil

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:03 am

Speaking of 2006, now's the time to start getting ready by going out while your mind is fresh and picking up those things you wished you'd had this year. Yay, I made my first BRC 2006 hardware store run today...replenished the dust mask inventory, added some nuts/bolts for a new windmill, got a few extra electrical connectors... let's see, still need some more conduit...

Also its New Avatar time. Update that image for the brand new year. Hey and lets get the theme out there already, time's a wastin'...I know I know I'm impatient and antsy to know which direction to channel the art energy.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:19 am

Windmill? For generating electricity? Do you know much about them?

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:23 am

Ranger Genius wrote:Windmill? For generating electricity? Do you know much about them?

All I know is that you need some kind of adjustable elbow joint, so that you can TILT at windmills.....And wear your protective washbasin at all times.

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:21 am

Tiahaar wrote:Speaking of 2006, now's the time to start getting ready by going out while your mind is fresh and picking up those things you wished you'd had this year. Yay, I made my first BRC 2006 hardware store run today...replenished the dust mask inventory, added some nuts/bolts for a new windmill, got a few extra electrical connectors... let's see, still need some more conduit...

Ugh. I know. I've already started drilling and tumbling the rocks I got this year for necklaces for next year. The real kicker now is I haven't even finished cleaning my gear and I'm already planning for a regional in October.

My problem is that I would love to spend a lot of time planning and preparing for next year but I have other stuff I really need to do (like figure out if I really want to quit my job/move west or not).

But I can't complain. So glad I have things to keep me busy (unlike other times in my life).

bdeywoo · Post by **bdeywoo** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:02 am

Ugh. I know. I've already started drilling and tumbling the rocks I got this year for necklaces for next year. The real kicker now is I haven't even finished cleaning my gear and I'm already planning for a regional in October.

My problem is that I would love to spend a lot of time planning and preparing for next year but I have other stuff I really need to do (like figure out if I really want to quit my job/move west or not).

But I can't complain. So glad I have things to keep me busy (unlike other times in my life).[/quote]

I am so in the same boat Dallas, quit my job (already live out west) and do BM on a major budget or stick it out and disregard the budget.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:10 am

Ranger Genius wrote:Windmill? For generating electricity? Do you know much about them?

Hi RG, sorry I must have signed off after that post and didn't see your query till this morning. Yes I'm upgrading the windmill that sits on a mast high above the bus roof. It does generate electricity nicely when winds are +20mph, about 4 amps worth at 14 volts (8-10 amps during the windstorms). The blades turn a 40vdc permanent magnet motor, and though it does work, the all-day sun on the solar panels (148 watts total, about 6 amps on average out at BRC) does much more to charge my batteries. SOOOoo, I sprung for a new permanent-magnet alternator that's supposed to be way more efficient and will change it into the dc motor's spot. Secretly, though electricity generating is the main purpose, I just love to see and hear the blades spin in a windstorm : )

Oh and DP here's a good one...one of my campmates was saying how he hadn't seen any black rocks...I say "what? here, we'll find one in the next 10 feet". Of couse we did, all light brown at first till you rub off the playa...he wasn't thinking of that heheh.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:46 am

The reason I ask is a project I'm thinking about for 2006. I don't even know if it's feasible.

Solar panels and windmills to generate power all day, charging some batteries. Use the pwoer to electrolyze water, then burn it. Collect the water that results from the combustion, put it in comemmorative bottles, and give it to people. Have people add their own water to the fuel reservoir. Light, wind, and water in, fire and water out. I'm trying to find some resources to tell me what kind of current I would need for this, to tell if it's even possible to execute. How many solar panels do you have in order to generate that kind of current? and what size?

Lassen Forge · Post by **Lassen Forge** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:54 am

There's a 3rd element necessary in the reaction as I remember, which you get out as well - I want to say it's Ammonia but I don't remember. Incidential part of the whole thing. It should be possible (someone developed an engine on this same principle 20-something years ago) and would be awesome.

As I remember fuller, the result was the mass elementals was fairly stable for all inputs and oputputs, meaning you ended up burning the light for the energy. Cool system!

bb

HughMungus · Post by **HughMungus** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:55 am

Tiahaar wrote:Oh and DP here's a good one...one of my campmates was saying how he hadn't seen any black rocks...I say "what? here, we'll find one in the next 10 feet". Of couse we did, all light brown at first till you rub off the playa...he wasn't thinking of that heheh.

Yeah, even a lot of veterans don't know. On the way out I realized we didn't have enough rocks for next year and I let someone else drive the RV (slowly of course) while I picked-up rocks and moop. The bonus was that I met a super hot Irish girl. Sigh...

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:01 pm

Wow!

That sounds like a way cool project! Dang all I do with my power is run some rope light and elwire (and speakers).

Well for solar I have two 32 watt and two 42 watt panels but even with that my 6 deep cycles were not quite reaching full charge again each day after running the lights all night. I need to cut back on light wattage and add another 64 watt panel this year.

The wind thing is more of a hobby...so far I've gleaned that good blades are real important (got mine at hydrogenappliances.com), big dc motors make good generators (40-90vdc ones make 15 volts at nice wind turbine speeds) car alternators make pretty poor wind generators 'cause you have to spin them really fast plus the coils eat some of the power but PMA's (alternators rebuilt with permanent magnets instead of windings on the core) make great efficient wind generators with no brushes to wear out.

Hey I remember doing that water to H2 and O thing back in school...forgot the power source requirements...high DC voltage across an anode/cathode sitting in a water bath?

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:06 pm

DallasPlaya wrote: Yeah, even a lot of veterans don't know. On the way out I realized we didn't have enough rocks for next year and I let someone else drive the RV (slowly of course) while I picked-up rocks and moop. The bonus was that I met a super hot Irish girl. Sigh...

Those black rocks must have some 4-leaf-clover kind of good luck in them too heheh : ) Lovin' your gift necklace!

bdeywoo · Post by **bdeywoo** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:14 pm

Hmmm guess I'm one of the "special" ones that had no idea about the black rocks! Considering I spent enough hours in the day looking down (just to make sure the ground was still there) You'd think I would have noticed. Great stack another think on the to-do list, its becomming un-manageable.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:11 pm

DP, Where is my neckless¿¿¿

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:14 pm

Tiahaar, When are you going to turn that old hippie bus into a veggie burner?

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:38 pm

unjonharley wrote:Tiahaar, When are you going to turn that old hippie bus into a veggie burner?

Heheh, aw Unjon then I'd be hungry all the time with that french-fry exhaust aroma. Good seeing you out there on the playa this year! Yeah with the price of diesel now biofuel is competitive and better for the air they say. Wonder how the old Detroit 6V71 would do on that stuff? (and I'm too young to be a true hippie and too old to be a raver kid...sigh...the awkward years)

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:58 pm

Tiahaar wrote:
unjonharley wrote:Tiahaar, When are you going to turn that old hippie bus into a veggie burner?
Heheh, aw Unjon then I'd be hungry all the time with that french-fry exhaust aroma. Good seeing you out there on the playa this year! Yeah with the price of diesel now biofuel is competitive and better for the air they say. Wonder how the old Detroit 6V71 would do on that stuff? (and I'm too young to be a true hippie and too old to be a raver kid...sigh...the awkward years)

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On aother note. I found the Xtra-bike you put me onto. Will be adding to my playa bike. I use the bike for shopping. People ask me bout it all the time. I tell then I found it in a junk yard. Easyer to explain that way.
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Am looking for wind mill design. The vains are thin and form a circle or ball shape. Some one was trying to apply then on wind farms. Any one have a idea what Im talkng about?

Gaiya · Post by **Gaiya** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:17 am

Hi there,

I'm a Burning Virgin and would like to participate in next years' Burning Man.

One problem...I'm a virgin and have no idea where to start, plus I live in London. Any ideas? Anybody that can direct me to a group in the UK?

Hope to hear from you!

G-force

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:35 am

Gaiya wrote:Hi there,

I'm a Burning Virgin and would like to participate in next years' Burning Man.

One problem...I'm a virgin and have no idea where to start, plus I live in London. Any ideas? Anybody that can direct me to a group in the UK?

Hope to hear from you!

G-force

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Welcome: there are oters in he UK like you. Check this board under regiional. See you on the playa. You can do it.

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:41 pm

BurningMan 2006??? Next year I will remember how much better it was last year (which is still this year). And forever, next year will always have been so much better then the year after it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm on the fence!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:04 pm

That's the trash fence!

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:06 pm

That's far out

jbelson · Post by **jbelson** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:14 pm

I'm trying to sell my tent trailer thats been beat up by 2 burns and am looking at a 20' travel trailer with plenty of amenities. So far I realize that I can buy a nice trailer for the price of renting an RV for the week.
I'm not going the RV route because I used to own one and it was nothing but problems. At least with the trailers you dont have to worry about engine troubles and transmission crap keeping you from the playa , unless it's on your tow vehicle. And if it is, a tow vehicle is less expensive to fix han an RV.

But then I think of art cars, and if I bring a trailer, then I cnat tow an art car out there. That is unless I get a very reliable bus that I can drive out there and tow the trailer. But then I think of storage for both of these things.
And with all this thinking, I still have decom coming up and I have to prepare for that.

Burningman never ends.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:30 pm

This thread seem to be the early birds ideas. I am changing my shade this year. Just a passing thought, With the price of gas. I could bring the shade and have it for people that can't hual a large camp across country. I'm only 500 miles out. It would save them money and a nice thing to do. Anyone else into helping far away burners.

Gaiya · Post by **Gaiya** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:42 am

I know I can do it, that is why I registered here to keep an eye on what is happening. Just out of curiosity how much do the tickets go for?

Will keep an eye on the regionals...

G-force

[quote="unjonharley"][quote="Gaiya"]Hi there,

I'm a Burning Virgin and would like to participate in next years' Burning Man.

One problem...I'm a virgin and have no idea where to start, plus I live in London. Any ideas? Anybody that can direct me to a group in the UK?

Hope to hear from you!

G-force[/quote]

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Welcome: there are oters in he UK like you. Check this board under regiional. See you on the playa. You can do it.[/quote]

robotland · Post by **robotland** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:24 am

Gaiya wrote:I know I can do it, that is why I registered here to keep an eye on what is happening. Just out of curiosity how much do the tickets go for?

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Budget for around two hundred bucks. If you sock away 25 clams a month you'll be ready for the big clamor when they go on sale early in the year.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:59 pm

I count 100 bucks, 25 each for October (almost gone), November, December and January. I suppose it depends on how early in the new year...

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:14 pm

Got lucky thhis year. Money is here already. It startd outlooking like I would have to stay home for 06. Guess I can have smiley face <:)

Fire Wire · Post by **Fire Wire** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:38 am

[quote="phil"]Hello, Tor,

I was 48 on my first Burn. I hope to see you there in 2006.

Phil[/quote]

Hello Phil.

Sorry about my late reply to your mail, but i had forgot my login code, well don't laugh!! Someone told me something about age!! Well here I am still goineg an countdown for Burning Man 2006 which I'll think will be awsome cool....

Fire Wire (Tor)

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