Recycle Camp wants YOUR Cans!!
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Recycle Camp wants YOUR Cans!!
For anyone who doesn't know, and all those who would love to do their part, or just watch and laugh.
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Hey, if you wanna bring a truckfull, or just one, you're more than welcome. All the cans go to the kids at Gerlach High, and I'd love to raise $1000 this year for them.
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Back in default world I'm a big fan of IPA's, but on the Playa, it'd better be PBR. You won't get laughed at no matter what kind of beverage was in the can, as long as it's aluminum.
As far as handling anything else, Nevada has no recycling laws which makes everything else have no commercial value. Also, trucking bottles is both cost prohibitive, and if done to collect deposit money, illegal.
The value of the cans we collect is 1/5 of their value in Oregon or California, but again it is both illegal and cost prohibitive.
As far as handling anything else, Nevada has no recycling laws which makes everything else have no commercial value. Also, trucking bottles is both cost prohibitive, and if done to collect deposit money, illegal.
The value of the cans we collect is 1/5 of their value in Oregon or California, but again it is both illegal and cost prohibitive.
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This is kinda funny duck, do you know that about two miles further east on Interstate 80, beyond the Nixon, Gerlach turn-off is a plastic bottle recycle factory? Annnd as long as the bottles are empty with no caps or paper on them, they will take them, I no longer know if they will purchase them from you at bulk weight. Annnd if the cans are purchased in a state where there is a recycle fee, it is not illegal to return them to that state.
I also wonder if you know the irony behind the porta-potties we fill every year. If its a Reno based company the sewage goes to our plant here in town and the de-natured sludge is shipped to small farms in the Gerlach area for growing vegetables for mass consumption. These opinions are my own, and may be too old to be still true.
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I also wonder if you know the irony behind the porta-potties we fill every year. If its a Reno based company the sewage goes to our plant here in town and the de-natured sludge is shipped to small farms in the Gerlach area for growing vegetables for mass consumption. These opinions are my own, and may be too old to be still true.
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I knew about the porta-potty thing, JOTS has grown specifically because of BM.
I didn't know about the bottle thing, can you get me their name?
I can include this in info we give out at Recycle. It's still logistically beyond our means to collect and ship bottles, but I would love info to help divert from the waste stream.
As for the cans, IF you can prove that they came from a deposit state, you're O.K., but that requires either small quantities, or receipts. It is actually illegal to transport large quantities of cans across state lines for the purpose of collecting deposits when no deposit was paid(fraud), in other words the burden of proof falls on the transporter, and law enforcement has no burden to believe anything less than the most strictly controlled evidence.
I'm happy just collecting the cans and letting the kiddies at Gerlach High take 'em in. Our bigger purpose is education, but the second half of the week, I usually feel like I'm just a garbageman. It's a shitty job, but how else would I be able to harass so many people in so little time?
I didn't know about the bottle thing, can you get me their name?
I can include this in info we give out at Recycle. It's still logistically beyond our means to collect and ship bottles, but I would love info to help divert from the waste stream.
As for the cans, IF you can prove that they came from a deposit state, you're O.K., but that requires either small quantities, or receipts. It is actually illegal to transport large quantities of cans across state lines for the purpose of collecting deposits when no deposit was paid(fraud), in other words the burden of proof falls on the transporter, and law enforcement has no burden to believe anything less than the most strictly controlled evidence.
I'm happy just collecting the cans and letting the kiddies at Gerlach High take 'em in. Our bigger purpose is education, but the second half of the week, I usually feel like I'm just a garbageman. It's a shitty job, but how else would I be able to harass so many people in so little time?
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Ok, its the Sunday after another church holiday and I see there have only been 13 votes; is it possible that only 13 people read new topics? (Why do most of the church holidays promote drinking?) I used to go to beliefnet and made myself seek new topics to discuss, but the problem arose that most avid church goers wanted only to read what they believed be echoed by others. Like they didn't want to believe in a God of love who gave out new information. Is this human nature?
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The reason we don't collect anything but aluminum is because we don't actually take anything away from the area.
The cans are taken in their burlap bags to Gerlach high school, the kids then take them a little at a time to the recycler's and they get the money.
We don't have the resources to do garbage collection, and don't really want to. We will have info on where to take plastic, glass, steel, dead bikes, etc., but won't be intentionally handling any of these.
Part of the reason that our job is so hard is because so many people treat us like we're central garbage collection and processing and that we should be grateful to be able to ride all the way out to their camp on the edge of town and pick up their nasty wet bag of mixed garbage and recycling because we get the aluminum from it.
Many of these people are long time attendees, as well.
Truth is, it currently costs about 3 times as much to run our camp as we raise for the kids at Gerlach High. Last year, including work weekends and off-playa time, I probably worked around 250 hours for this project.
Our primary mission is education and outreach, the cans are a bonus, and provide us a reason to do things like build big crazy dangerous Crushers(my favorite part).
The cans are taken in their burlap bags to Gerlach high school, the kids then take them a little at a time to the recycler's and they get the money.
We don't have the resources to do garbage collection, and don't really want to. We will have info on where to take plastic, glass, steel, dead bikes, etc., but won't be intentionally handling any of these.
Part of the reason that our job is so hard is because so many people treat us like we're central garbage collection and processing and that we should be grateful to be able to ride all the way out to their camp on the edge of town and pick up their nasty wet bag of mixed garbage and recycling because we get the aluminum from it.
Many of these people are long time attendees, as well.
Truth is, it currently costs about 3 times as much to run our camp as we raise for the kids at Gerlach High. Last year, including work weekends and off-playa time, I probably worked around 250 hours for this project.
Our primary mission is education and outreach, the cans are a bonus, and provide us a reason to do things like build big crazy dangerous Crushers(my favorite part).
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Ah, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, if you are just dropping off the cans to the school, it's best to limit it to what they can easily get some cash for. The bottles are worth more for the manditory 5-cent deposit than they are for the value of the glass. And you almost have to pay some places to take plastic.
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I know that at least in the Bay area, most Walgreens will take batteries for recycling. I use rechargables myself. I have one of those solar radios, and i use it to charge batteries for my uv lites. I would highly recommend going to radio schmack and getting their cheapie rechargables. You can get a charger you can plug into your cigarette lighter, and a little solar panel to clip to your car battery. Voila. No more bag full of dead batteries, no more running out of batteries.
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Hm. Good to know. I was also thinking of doing this as a service o' sorts... *I* might be able to do that, but I'm reasonably sure 40,000 people won't. And if I can do something cheap 'n' easy to keep all those nasty heavy metals out of landfills, so much the better.
So I'm figuring on a few small hefty plastic buckets out in front of the camp, with a sign. If they fill up, cool. If not, well there's just that much less moop I gotta schlepp back to the default world. If it's popular, it just might become a regular thing...
So I'm figuring on a few small hefty plastic buckets out in front of the camp, with a sign. If they fill up, cool. If not, well there's just that much less moop I gotta schlepp back to the default world. If it's popular, it just might become a regular thing...
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Putting a collection bucket in front of your camp may be seen as an invitation to dump crap. If you're going to, here's a couple suggestions. Make sure the buckets are small. Make sure they have tight fitting lids that are hard to open. Put a hole in the lid for the size of batts you want to take- I'd suggest having a separate bucket for watch batts and AA's, and not trying to collect others. These are the most commonly used sizes as well as being the most often found type of battery moop. You can offer to take other batteries in person, but make sure you have a place to take them when you get back. A quick stop into your local drug store, and ask at the photo counter. You may have to take them in a little at a time depending on how many you collect.
I commend you on your effort to divert from the waste stream. Thank you.
I commend you on your effort to divert from the waste stream. Thank you.
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