Alex Graye's Psychedelic Anti-Semitic Tirade

SED · Post by **SED** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:33 pm

Folks, I think we should be watching this one.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:38 pm

"A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness."

- Repo Man (again)

K-mom · Post by **K-mom** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:01 pm

sorry, what?

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:43 pm

Ooops. Sorry. Wrong thread. I confused this one with Alex Trebek's Psychedelic Anti-Semitic Tirade

icarus · Post by **icarus** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:22 am

Ooops. Sorry. Wrong thread. I confused this one with Joe Lieberman's Manischevitz Anti-Zoroastrian Tirade.

Moon Puppy · Post by **Moon Puppy** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:31 pm

I think the title of this thread is Fucked up, and if any one is anti-semitic then I hope you burn in hell with hitler and his like.

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:04 am

Lovely first post. Any other pearls of wisdom forthcomming?

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:16 am

That's it, this thread is Officially Dead.

You're all worse then Hitler!

capjbadger · Post by **capjbadger** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:24 am

blyslv wrote:That's it, this thread is Officially Dead.

You're all worse then Hitler!

Ahh crap! I missed the Godwin's Law part of the post. lol

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:59 am

Again? Sheesh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Cabanasprings · Post by **Cabanasprings** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:14 pm

blyslv wrote:That's it, this thread is Officially Dead.

You're all worse then Hitler!

I am so sick and tired of all the oldtimers thinking they have the right to kill shit.

It makes me want to hurlverklempt on my new leather shoes. (The shoes I bought from a Jew in New York. I tried to jew him down on the price and he threw a bagel at me. Got so mad that the little hat thing he was wearing blew clean off his head. Got caught in his beard.)

blyslv · Post by **blyslv** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:43 pm

Cabanasprings wrote: It makes me want to hurlverklempt on my new leather shoes.

Well at least my thigh high "shiny boots, shiny boots of leather" are still spotless.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:00 pm

Bagels? Like lox and bagels? Now I'm getting hungry. And don't forget the capers, and keep that tomato in the tray, red onion is preferred. And that lox better be smoked.

Thread drift , killing topics and thread hijacking have a long and established place on the board. Bitch about it then hijack it back or resurrect it yourself. (Unless it's a Rex / pliya post)

And beware of that Blyslv character. He keeps hitting people up for $5. I don't trust him.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:04 pm

I don't know who Alex Graye is
I don't know what drugs he takes
I don't know what stupid things he said

And what's more

I don't care.

Bin Noddin · Post by **Bin Noddin** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Kinetic IV wrote:... And beware of that Blyslv character. He keeps hitting people up for $5. I don't trust him.

Well, I told him when and where I would be in Santa Fe, but he never showed up, so I spent the money on coffee and a danish. Blyslv, you blew it.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:51 pm

I've got a $5 Bill, actually one of the old "silver certificates" for him if he's interested. But no, he's gotta be all stuck up. Of course the karma gods have smited him on the other board with thread punishment today...the karma gods hate universal karma imbalances and they remedy it pretty quickly.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:19 pm

Wow. Now I want the dirt.

Oh well, fishes don't do well in dirt.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:20 pm

Google "Alex Graye" and this thread is the first thing that appears...

Orghua · Post by **Orghua** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:47 am

Maybe it was meant to be Alex Grey, who is camping at Entheon Village this year at 4:00 and Esplanade. He's a kickass psychedelic artist and a gallery of his work will be constructed on the open Playa just out in front of the camp. As far as I know he is not anti-semitic.

www.alexgrey.com

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:49 am

Yeah, the whole thing seems a meljoke gone very astray...

SED · Post by **SED** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:40 am

capjbadger wrote:
blyslv wrote:That's it, this thread is Officially Dead.

You're all worse then Hitler!
Ahh crap! I missed the Godwin's Law part of the post. lol

Ha! I went to college with Mike Godwin!

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:18 pm

SED, enlighten me. Why do you start threads with "anti-semitic" this and that? I'll skip the technicality that "anti-semitism refers to any people who speak a semitic language [not just jews].

Why do you reference to a religion? No one else does. Are you feeling persecuted? Are you the guardian and "agent provacatuer" of the jews in this country. Do you feel a need to inform the larger Burning Man community of any perceived threats to jews?
Rebbi started a thread concerning racism against blacks in GB. This was one time.
In general, it's a friendly board that doesn't incite flames. You keep talking up perceived racism against jews,,,and then you tell a "nigger" joke to Rebbi.
He responded in a very civil manner as befits a person who has good self-control and objectivity.
You've admonished other people to "grow a thicker skin"
Keep in mind that tolerance is given where tolerance is received.

SED · Post by **SED** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:36 pm

can't sit still wrote:SED, enlighten me.

Sure, right after I teach my dog algebra.

can't sit still wrote:Why do you start threads with "anti-semitic" this and that?

It's fun and educational.

can't sit still wrote:Why do you reference to [sic] a religion? No one else does.

I guess I'm some kind of non-conformist.

can't sit still wrote:Are you feeling persecuted?

No.

can't sit still wrote:Are you the guardian and "agent provacatuer" [sic] of the jews in this country.

No.

can't sit still wrote:Do you feel a need to inform the larger Burning Man community of any perceived threats to jews?

Mmmmm . . . nope.

can't sit still wrote:Rebbi started a thread concerning racism against blacks in GB. This was one time.

More power to him. If he'd done it twice would you consider that being uppity?

can't sit still wrote:You keep talking up perceived racism against jews,,, [sic] and then you tell a "nigger" joke to Rebbi.

I don't and I didn't. Read again.

can't sit still wrote:He responded in a very civil manner as befits a person who has good self-control and objectivity.

After his chickenshit insinuations, I too commend him for this.

can't sit still wrote:You've admonished other people to "grow a thicker skin"

Only when they get offended. Nobody's bugged me very much, so I'm
not being hypocritical.

can't sit still wrote:Keep in mind that tolerance is given where tolerance is received.

What?

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:14 pm

SED, Aug 01 MEL-O-DRAMA
"
"Old, bad joke: Definition of a nigger: a black person who just left the room.

"Go back to Africa, you black bastard! Oops, I'm sorry. That was indiscreet. No hard feelings, okay?"

Goodbye and thanks for the fish

SED · Post by **SED** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:33 pm

For the benefit of those who may be just tuning in, the joke and racist remark that Can't Sit Still refers to were responses that I gave to Dali Rick's comments. They were not examples of my own sense of humor or sentiments.

Dali Rick had been suggesting that such attitudes were of the past, and that Mel Gibson's bigotry was merely an indiscretion, which I considered a naive point of view.

Now, back to Woofy's algebra lesson. CSS, I'm saving you a spot in Enlightenment 101, if you're still interested.

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:35 pm

Ok, the competition for my drama queen tiara ends now.

Getting serious there's never any justification for the use of the "N"word. I know this ain't my argument and I'm wading in where I shouldn't be. But damn people, many of us will be on the playa in 72 hours or less, or on our way. Do we really need this "N" word shit going on? A week from tonight many of us will be meeting face to face. If you have differences it can be taken to Thunderdome or something or talked out over a very tall glass of something or another.

Can we all just get along for the next week or so?

SED · Post by **SED** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:42 pm

Which N words do you mean?

Nattering nabobs of negativity?

Numb-nutted narcissistic nudniks?

Nay-saying nigglers?

'nuff said?

Kinetic IV · Post by **Kinetic IV** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:49 pm

You know exactly which word I was referring to. Continue this silly stuff after everyone gets back from the playa. By the way I hope I get to run into both of you as I enjoy your posts. I'd like to have real faces to think of when I'm reading your comments on some icy cold January night stuck way in the heck out here in the stix.

can't sit still · Post by **can't sit still** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:00 pm

Kinetic, the word that you're refering to is very emotionally charged to many people. It originally evolved from the name of the people from the area of a certain river in Africa. It was just a simple word.

Much of the negativity of this word is derived from the intense negative reactions of the people so named.
Why does this word elicit so much more negative reaction when compared to a word like "honkey"?
Is it because of the negative emotional implications of the sender or the receiver?
Some blacks use this word in reference to each other. It's entered music.
So where is the greater part of the intensity? ,,,,the sender or the receiver?
Whites don't get particularly upset with the word "honkey" Why should anyone get more than mildly upset over a racial slur?

You did a post a few months ago concerning your mother and a contractor. You found the word so repugnant that you couldn't even name it in an innocent context.
Does the word "honkey elicit the same feelings?
What about reading 'Huck Finn"? It wasn't written to be ugly. Does it now become ugly because of intense negative reactions to the lingua franca of that period?
It's a slippery subject, but I believe that the majority of the negativity is on the part of the receiver.
I don't see the Irish get in fights because someone referred to them as "paddy" This was extremely insulting at one time. They got over it.

The world is already an ugly place,,,no need to make it any worse.
But shoot,
GET OVER IT No one gets anywhere by embracing the negative.

SED · Post by **SED** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:45 pm

can't sit still wrote:Kinetic, the word that you're refering to is very emotionally charged to many people. It originally evolved from the name of the people from the area of a certain river in Africa. It was just a simple word.

Maybe this is a flame, maybe it's not, but CSS, you are not so ignorant as to negate my compassion. Woofy the Wonder Dog, having mastered algebra, leaves me free to attempt your enlightenment.

Thusly:

From Wikipedia:

Nigger

Etymology
From Latin niger, "black".

Most of the romance languages (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese...) have the word "negro" meaning "black" (in colour) derived from the Latin "niger". During the period in America's history when black workers were shipped to America to work as slaves, this word came to be adopted from the hispanic South American languages to describe a person of dark skin. Essentially, a "negro" person simply means a "black" person. Through constant repetition of the Spanish word in the American accent, it seems likely that the word was corrupted from "negro" to "niggero" to simply "nigger". The term "nigger" has taken on perjorative qualities as it implies not only darkness of skin, but a general lack of intelligence and sophistication. At the time of the word's origin, various English speaking North American settlers who set cultural standards considered black people fundamentally inferior and less civilized. The term is generally considered offensive to black people not only because it singles them out on the basis of their skin colour, but also, because of its origin, it carries connotations of slavery, inferiority and oppression.

And just so's ya know:

From Merriam Webster

niggard
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse hnøggr niggardly; akin to Old English hnEaw niggardly
: a meanly covetous and stingy person : MISER