Radical EXclusion

[Montanarchist]

I'm not getting any actual rebuttals about victim disarmament so let's try something a little different.

The gun culture was once a significant part of Burning Man culture. Proof: Drive by shooting range. https://youtu.be/uFwkYAsR8DM

The BMORG's current victim disarmament policy excludes the gun culture.

You guys might have a chance with the second point ... I'm just throwing this out there fresh off the synapses and won't support it with any formal proof beyond logic at this time.

Burner since '11
Sport Shooter since '84

[Montanarchist]

Proof for second argument: the gun culture is a clearly defined culture. The culture is centered around safe handling of firearms for sport and pleasure. Excluding this culture or their tools would be like telling fire enclave that can't have anything that burns.

[Montanarchist]

Nobody wants to play?

[Montanarchist]

Was my thread that conclusively proved that So-called Gun Control is actually victim disarmmament deleted?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there is censorship here. You guys not only enable the secret police at burning man you fund them

[Montanarchist]

Ah, the old censorship via privilege.


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[Montanarchist]

Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.

[Elorrum]

I am curious about how you feel and think walking around in the world with something so deadly. Do you imagine killing people a lot? Are you thinking of who the possible threats and targets are while you go about your business? I am scared of open carry individuals when I see them, and try to distance myself immediately if I can. That readiness scares the shit out of me, if bullets fly no one near is safe.

[Montanarchist]

Your logic is flawed. You need to read my points 1,2,3,4 and evidence I presented in the thread called "Don't Call it Gun Control"

After that of you have any questions related to those points... Or any points here get after 'er.

Logical debate has rules. No more goal post moving until someone debates or concedes my points.

But thank you for a reasoned response and not a personal attack.

[Elorrum]

I want to understand your need, and if you think about shooting people. I’m not debating. This is a place where I meet my friends.

[Montanarchist]

Still goal post moving and not helping to resolve the censorship or ToS violations. Try asking your friends in the burning man bar.

[Elorrum]

Still goal post moving and not helping to resolve the censorship or ToS violations. Try asking your friends in the burning man bar.

you are pretty much everywhere, so I think I may need to leave altogether. Your song is very hard to listen to and you are incapable of stopping. You’ve invaded a place with an argument that serves as your main form of conversation? You are unpleasant company. You might be right or wrong I do not care. You ruin comaradery.

[Montanarchist]

You are entitled to your opinion, flounce off and all.

[Montanarchist]

Someday, I hope we can have Camp Boom at the 12:00 trash fence - with an extended secure area backing up to one of the hills behind it. Bullet traps so there's no trace left. Trained range masters. Maybe the Appleseed program, if it still exists. Let the gun culture teach safe firearm handling classes and enjoy our culture.

[Montanarchist]

I wouldn't be surprised if the remnants of Peace Officers (as compared to neck-kneeling Jack Boot Thug murders) would volunteer as Range Masters. The secret police would certainly be there, to add more pictures to activists files of nothing else

[Montanarchist]

Our culture is a constitutionally guaranteed natural Right. What you are doing is the equivalent of banning Bibles because you don't agree with Christian mythology, or confiscating copies of Piss Clear because you didn't be like something they wrote. Victim Disarmmament (formally known as gun control) is a failed idea, do you want be grouped together with the 1950's Klan, and others who fought against civil Rights?

[Montanarchist]

Camp Boom! BRC 2025

[Montanarchist]

And I'd be the first to admit that there are a lot of members of the Gun Culture for which several miles of hiking past art instillations would help... And I'm not just talking about beer bellies.

Does anyone remember what culture jamming is?

[Montanarchist]

Of course, it world be harder for some to bully others. Force equalizers (aka firearms) make a 90# girl as strong as a #250 rapist.

[Montanarchist]

All murders, rapists and other criminals are obviously for Victim Disarmmament laws. See points 3 and 4 for conclusive proof. Gotta wonder how many we have here...

[Montanarchist]

Sorry, here are the points from the other thread for those who haven't seen it

The grayhound bus shooting is proof positive of my fourth and final fact claimed. A crazy who was legally barred from firearm ownership, who shot the disarmed law-abiding citizens in a so-called gun free zone. #guncontrol is
#victimdisarmament #GunControlNow is murder

Fact 1) Firearm production will continue no matter what laws are in place. Even without 3D printing, all that's required are commonly available plumbing fittings a household chemicals.

Fact 2) There will never be a gun free society. The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto got firearms and led an armed resistance against their SS guards. -and if you think that Hitler didn't have all kinds of gun laws, you don't know your history.

Fact 3) If there will always be firearms, so-called gun laws will only be followed by law abiding individuals which will leave them helpless victims to the criminals who have always disregard laws.

Fact 4) What is commonly called "gun control" is actually in practical application nothing more than victim disarmament.

[Simon of the Playa]

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[The Rod]

At what point does someone qualify for voting off the island?

[Montanarchist]

At what point does someone qualify for voting off the island?

Easy there, Hoss. Censuring someone for arguing about a constitutionally protected Right, has some really nasty history.

[The Rod]

This is a website run by private citizens. Even if we could silence you it wouldn’t fall under the definition of censorship.

Take your fake victim mentality somewhere else.

[Montanarchist]

That could be, I'm a huge supporter of property rights, however, how would that look for Burning Man. Someone excluded for fighting for their constitutional protected rights. I'm a pretty talented writer, and I'd have fun with it. I guarantee you. Let's keep this friendly and just use logic and rules of debate. Don't like what I'm saying, don't read it.

[Montanarchist]

Or better yet respond.

I don't pussyfoot around any ideological positions that I've thoroughly examined, found to be rationally correct, and feel passionate about. I keep an open mind but only so far as the facts support the theory. Don't like that? Use rational thought and scientific/Socratic method to show me your position is superior, or fuck off.

[AntiM]

Locking this topic because OP already has one gun control topic in Open Discussion.

Take it there.