The Bar

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:57 am

Dang! Gotta run.....catch ya'll later!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:57 am

um... anyone got hugs to spare? i'm surrounded by people that i love who are going into crisis and i can't fuckin' take it anymore, especially on next to no decent sleep.

i'm on the verge of a comlete and total mental breakdown...

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:58 am

(((((HUG))))))

Hugs for RJ!!

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:59 am

Rian Jackson wrote:um... anyone got hugs to spare? i'm surrounded by people that i love who are going into crisis and i can't fuckin' take it anymore, especially on next to no decent sleep.

i'm on the verge of a comlete and total mental breakdown...

I have all you can handle.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:00 pm

.......Rubber ducky, I'm awfully fond of you....boop boop be doop......

{heading for the shower, so watch out! you-know-who might miss the armpit smell, wake up, and start hollerin again..... :wink:}

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:30 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:i'm on the verge of a comlete and total mental breakdown...

At last, the clouds part and reveal the true sky...

This is actually a major reason we find our li'l cutie pie so adorable. In a scary way, to be sure... {smooches}

I'll have a cheap, cold can of whatevah.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:37 pm

Can of kinda cold Schaeffer for Sensei

CoworkerLurker · Post by **CoworkerLurker** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:48 pm

Rian Jackson wrote:um... anyone got hugs to spare? i'm surrounded by people that i love who are going into crisis and i can't fuckin' take it anymore, especially on next to no decent sleep.

i'm on the verge of a comlete and total mental breakdown...

(((((RJ))))))

Damn! That teleconference ended up getting canceled- I could have done lunch after all.

Hope you did something more comforting for lunch.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:57 pm

For those who may or may not be interested to know, she said she thought it was funny!!! Is that good, I wonder?

Anyhow, I know this has been brought up before a thousand times, but 45 guests? It seems there has been a jump in the size of the audience of late. I wonder what that's all about.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:02 pm

stuart:

daily cash, tons of paperwork, selling phones, helping with people's bills, taking shit from humanity in general who don't treat others with respect,

typical minimum wage shit...

me, however: I'm salary now. Manager. Basically, it just means that they don't pay me overtime now.

RJ: ((((((OrianO)))))))))

Lydia Love · Post by **Lydia Love** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:05 pm

Hugs to that can of whupass known as Rian.

Lovey, if it helps at all, I seem to be crawling out of my crisis state and can shoulder some of your load, ok?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:18 pm

thanks guys.
what say we drink our sorrows away at the bar tonight?

CWL: i holed myself up in the office, of course, and read about intoxication (which always makes me want to imbibe). On that note: some good, old fashioned ass-kickin' cockails, please!

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:20 pm

here's my thinking

the only way to justify (weakly) that battery of tests is if the position entails a great deal of responsibility.
if the position requires that level of responsibility the employess should be treated with respect and compensated on a level commensurate with that responsiblity. Is that so wrong?

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:28 pm

stuart wrote:here's my thinking

the only way to justify (weakly) that battery of tests is if the position entails a great deal of responsibility.
if the position requires that level of responsibility the employess should be treated with respect and compensated on a level commensurate with that responsiblity. Is that so wrong?

Corporations are not made up of human individuals; they are made up of guidlines that maximize the profit of that corporation. Decisions are made by humans, but only in the intrest of the corporation... which is why I would like to see corporations collapse into the cesspool of their own rules and regulation. Making people in the entry level jump through hoops to get hired is the first step in dehumanizing them so that they can get used to 'The Corporate Way'

It's also the reason that service in most sectors is in the toilet these days...

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:35 pm

***this is a drive-by posting...do not be alarmed...this poster will only post this once***

hearty topless hugs for Rian:

(((((((((((((((((((((OO))))))))))))))))))))

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:38 pm

Hey all.

Time for me to start making dinner around here. Anyone up for Lemon Chicken?

I'll take a beer to go with that.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:40 pm

sputnik wrote:Hey all.

Time for me to start making dinner around here. Anyone up for Lemon Chicken?

Which lemon chicken?

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:41 pm

Stuart: there's a part of me that understands their concerns: I have a hell of a lot of money in my store, both in equipment and in the drawer. There's a level of responsibility on that front. I also have access to peope's personal accounts, ssn, billing, etc.... it's a pretty high level of responsibility...

I hear you, though....

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:44 pm

DRINKS ARE ON ME! I HAVE AN EMPLOYEE NOW!!

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:45 pm

skol!

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:46 pm

a pretty high level of responsibility...

then I think your pay should reflect that.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:49 pm

buckethead alien wrote: Which lemon chicken?

The third one from the left.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:52 pm

That's great news, GE!! Where "on you" can we have them drinks?

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:58 pm

stuart: I hear you, babe, but honestly, I'm lucky to be getting what I'm getting. I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, as it were. Okay?

BHA: anywhere you like, baby. Glad to have you back.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:58 pm

samtzu wrote:
stuart wrote:here's my thinking

the only way to justify (weakly) that battery of tests is if the position entails a great deal of responsibility.
if the position requires that level of responsibility the employess should be treated with respect and compensated on a level commensurate with that responsiblity. Is that so wrong?
Corporations are not made up of human individuals; they are made up of guidlines that maximize the profit of that corporation. Decisions are made by humans, but only in the intrest of the corporation... which is why I would like to see corporations collapse into the cesspool of their own rules and regulation. Making people in the entry level jump through hoops to get hired is the first step in dehumanizing them so that they can get used to 'The Corporate Way'

It's also the reason that service in most sectors is in the toilet these days...

Small business can be even more dehumanizing I spent 5 years working for a family owned shop by the time I was given a Christmas bonus and laid off, I was suffering from a state I could only compare to battered wife syndrome, I was feeling like I really wasn't worth a shit and deserved to be abused.

Getting ridden every day from the old man who's hobby was torturing employees until they quit so he wouldn't have to pay any more than the minimum or unemployment. the same day the old man came into the shop and strongly suggested I quite because I didn't have an aptitude for the work the son came out and gave me an unusually large raise because of the stellar work I'd been doing.
Usually you could only get a raise if you got married or got your wife pregnant.

Give me a corporation with employment rules any day.

helitack · Post by **helitack** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:00 pm

Good for you, I had to fire an intern the other day. Wooooooooohoooooooo! I'll take an alcoholic beverage now thank you.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:01 pm

GuinivereElise wrote: BHA: anywhere you like, baby. Glad to have you back.

Hmmm. I notice that you <i>are</i> wearing that dress, speaking of backs.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:02 pm

Or, on the other hand, you can take my bar job in Malta, where my employer drove me home from work many nights, or we'd go buy fresh bread from the bakery at 3 in the morning.

The man was a drama queen, to be sure - which made it hell when he was quitting smoking - and the wages were shit (ok, so it's a second-world economy) but if he treated me like gold. Not the least of which was that if anyone bothered me to the point that i felt a need to tell him, they were kicked out of the bar for life.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:03 pm

well, BHA??

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:06 pm

GuinivereElise wrote:well, BHA??

I noticed that when you arch your back, the cutest little depression is formed at the base of your spine. That okay with you?