Love.....

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:35 am

I really love Eplaya for many reasons. Why I do is not important. I want to call a truce.
I would love to see Eplaya grow to it's fullest potential. This thread I create to have more love be posted on eplaya. This is my other contribution to the eplaya community. I am trying my best to be as humble as possible and to dumb myself down so that eplaya can move on to a happier future.
I know some (maybe most.) will not accept me and that's ok. I can live with that. Attacks on those that any select few feel they need to do so, I say this, everyone needs someone and everyone can learn from everyone.
It would be nice to start over and make eplaya the eplaya it was meant to be.
That is all and I will limit my post to see what transpires.
Post your love in this thread.

Peace out.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:14 am

DVD Burner wrote:I really love Eplaya for many reasons. Why I do is not important. I want to call a truce.
I would love to see Eplaya grow to it's fullest potential. This thread I create to have more love be posted on eplaya. This is my other contribution to the eplaya community. I am trying my best to be as humble as possible and to dumb myself down so that eplaya can move on to a happier future.
I know some (maybe most.) will not accept me and that's ok. I can live with that. Attacks on those that any select few feel they need to do so, I say this, everyone needs someone and everyone can learn from everyone.
It would be nice to start over and make eplaya the eplaya it was meant to be.
That is all and I will limit my post to see what transpires.
Post your love in this thread.

Peace out.

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:22 am

spectabillis wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:I really love Eplaya for many reasons. Why I do is not important. I want to call a truce.
I would love to see Eplaya grow to it's fullest potential. This thread I create to have more love be posted on eplaya. This is my other contribution to the eplaya community. I am trying my best to be as humble as possible and to dumb myself down so that eplaya can move on to a happier future.
I know some (maybe most.) will not accept me and that's ok. I can live with that. Attacks on those that any select few feel they need to do so, I say this, everyone needs someone and everyone can learn from everyone.
It would be nice to start over and make eplaya the eplaya it was meant to be.
That is all and I will limit my post to see what transpires.
Post your love in this thread.

Peace out.

DVD, let me be the first to say I greatly appreciate this change of attitude and tone that you have now expressed.

Unfortunately, I feel that a significant ammount of damage has been done. You have placed yourself in a position that I am not sure is defendable, and I am not convinced you are prepared to accept the judgement that the majority of people of this community have placed on you.

You are in a very, very difficult position.

I strongly suggest you consider taking some time away, recollect your thoughts, and deal with the verbal abuse that has been directed at you. Even though your change in perception has given you the opportunity to grow, in order for that to take effect, you need to heal. You will not be able to do that in the presence of more criticism, no matter how complacent you presently are.

I say this because I am a caring and humane person. I personally want to see you move beyond whatever issues you are facing, and will continue to face from this whole situation.

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:14 am

DVD Burner wrote: I am trying my best to be as humble as possible and to dumb myself down so that eplaya can move on to a happier future.

ehh,,, what!?!?

to dumb oneself down is playing a nasty trick, deception. want proof, have a look at our last presidential elections. bush dumbed himself down (no, he is not a stupid man, nowhere near it) when speaking to gain votes and fukin hell it worked.

you want to make a happier future here, use your fukin brains/intelligence,,, think! people don't wan't to read childish diatribes, they want to read intelligence and feel a part of this little board.

also, to say that you are dumbing yourself down implies that the users here are in fact dumb and can only relate to dumbass fukedness.

NOW, if your intentions are sincere I welcome that but, think man, think!

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:26 am

I'm not sure how deep this hurt goes, because its hard to tell with this digital modality. I'm sure if we all met in person, we'd gain a much different perspective. It is interesting to see anyway what forms our personalities take on this board...I found thie following quote in a pack of Dharma cards at a party last night:
"No enemy, weapon, poison or terrible illness can upset someone like harsh words. No moon water, sandalwood paste, or cool breeze can refresh someone as sweet words can"
-Subhashitarnara

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:36 am

**Monkeypoo peeks into room, waves burning smudge stick...**

All bad energies be gone from eplaya! So mote it be!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:01 pm

spectabillis wrote: DVD, let me be the first to say I greatly appreciate this change of attitude and tone that you have now expressed.

Unfortunately, I feel that a significant ammount of damage has been done. You have placed yourself in a position that I am not sure is defendable, and I am not convinced you are prepared to accept the judgement that the majority of people of this community have placed on you.

You are in a very, very difficult position.

I strongly suggest you consider taking some time away, recollect your thoughts, and deal with the verbal abuse that has been directed at you. Even though your change in perception has given you the opportunity to grow, in order for that to take effect, you need to heal. You will not be able to do that in the presence of more criticism, no matter how complacent you presently are.

I say this because I am a caring and humane person. I personally want to see you move beyond whatever issues you are facing, and will continue to face from this whole situation.

No.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:05 pm

I have had enough time to think about this.

Something needs to be done about bad people in the world.

There really needs to be more Love.

(not the hippie shit)

I'll take a few more days off.

Peace!

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:22 am

There really needs to be more Love.
(not the hippie shit)

Hippie Love ROCKS!!!

**doing my little hippie love dance with flowers in my hair**

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:32 am

Donita wrote:
There really needs to be more Love.
(not the hippie shit)

Hippie Love ROCKS!!!

**doing my little hippie love dance with flowers in my hair**

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This I would " love" to see

bullD · Post by **bullD** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:40 am

unjonharley wrote:
Donita wrote:
There really needs to be more Love.
(not the hippie shit)

Hippie Love ROCKS!!!

**doing my little hippie love dance with flowers in my hair**
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This I would " love" to see

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Hey, you all read DVD, No Hippie Shit!

ehh, what's that signature you have DVD, oh yes, here it is:

“Inclusion not exclusion.”

he he he he he,,, sorry man, couldn't help myself. I still love you and everybody else here...

Donita · Post by **Donita** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:45 am

My first year at Burning Man, I got kind of scared when I saw "NO HIPPIES" spray-painted on the side of a wall at the BRC post office. I was kind of afraid that if they found out I was a hippie-type and a BM virgin, they might do something freaky to me. hee hee
I'm just so silly sometimes...

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:28 am

bullD wrote:
DVD Burner wrote: I am trying my best to be as humble as possible and to dumb myself down so that eplaya can move on to a happier future.
<snippage>

also, to say that you are dumbing yourself down implies that the users here are in fact dumb ...

NOW, if your intentions are sincere I welcome that but, think man, think!

Yes, exactly. I say the following not to be mean or to be hateful or anything but to point something out so that it can reflected on and possibly acted on.

This is an example of what gets under people's skin. While on the surface it appears humble and sincere, buried in there is a dig at everyone else. "It isn't my fault, you guys are just too stupid to understand me". People generally don't like being called dumb. It can result in a hardening of their attitudes and actions toward you. It conveys that you have a negative opinion of them. You have stated many times that people don't "get" you. I can relate to that. People have also asked many times for you to clarify, explain, help them understand. In every case they are either ignored, ridiculed, or criticized. People generally stop asking or stop being quite as willing to try to understand when treated that way.

And so here, even in what appears to be a plea to clear the slate, is a yet another dirt-clod tossed at the people here. People that are already a little touchy about that anyway, I might add. I wouldn't say people here are dumb. I would say that maybe they are a bit sensitive to certain kinds of behavior by some people and are somewhat spring-loaded to react to it.

Good luck and I sincerely wish you peace and happiness.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:50 am

Per the post linked in the first post in this thread, I'm going to take a wild guess:

Life is a game, the eplaya is a game, and smileys represent game pieces.

I don't see anything in the pixels that substantially represents love, though I've never seen the "digital modality" of the eplaya as very being suitable for emotional commerce. I've always tried to use the eplaya primarily as a vehicle for offering useful advice and discussion on subjects either not addressed or not easily found on the main Burning Man website, and have always hoped it would be an archive for the useful rather than the useless. If you came to the eplaya expecting digital love, and then went on an extended "plonk me" campaign, don't expect others not to question its usefulness.

CoworkerLurker · Post by **CoworkerLurker** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:36 pm

geekster wrote:People have also asked many times for you to clarify, explain, help them understand. In every case they are either ignored, ridiculed, or criticized. People generally stop asking or stop being quite as willing to try to understand when treated that way.

One point of clarification, Geekster. I agree that you've described the usual pattern, but the one time I asked DVD to clarify and explain, he didn't ignore, ridicule, or criticize. He eventually answered my question, in my opinion about 90% of the way. When I filled in the remaining 10%, his response was, essentially, "yes". It took some persistence I'll grant you (plus it was easy to get distracted by everything else going on), but he did do it.

http://eplaya.burningman.org/viewtopic. ... &start=200
(it continues until page 17)

Just a reminder of that old arguing advice- avoid the words "never" and "always" (and "in every case"), because they tend to push buttons and also to be wrong. It gives others the excuse to say that you don't know what you're talking about, to avoid addressing the actual issue.

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:20 am

So you can point to one single instance where he finally explained his meaning in that one particular circumstance. Not that it explains his actions in all circumstances before or since.

I will note it and take a closer look when my mind is clearer.

nipples · Post by **nipples** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:51 pm

Your definition of love & mine are likely to differ.

She will not love him anymore if he tells the doctor mommy held hand under hot water faucet . He pulled coffee pot off the counter instead.

Love is fearful to want/know.

Love is being told you fell down the stairs & broke your arm or mommy goes to jail & then no one will love you.

Love is a monster.

I want it I crave it I run to & away from it
Love is a mislabeled word.
I'm asking my brain have you heard
That up is now down
We stopped messing around
is your brain though yet playable?

paps · Post by **paps** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:58 pm

Take your meds
confused freak

that has nothing to do
with DiViDendS weep

his sorrow more buxom
fresher it seems

your trust was your problem
his not provoked

not loved casue you're bad
or bad cause not loved

'tis only a beat
for one feathered dove

to stroke & to say
no not ever today

i will smile
i will be
happy!

amnesia · Post by **amnesia** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:03 pm

Laugh & the world laughs with you.
Cry, & you cry alone.

author unknown (to me)

Anyways,
the fist rule of first club:

Why you hitting yourself?
Huh?
Why you hitting yourself?!

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:24 pm

hi, sweetie. come have a drink?

BabyG · Post by **BabyG** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:06 am

.... Sending you a big, tight energy hug and a soft kiss on your cheek..... x

"Don't cry because its over, Smile because it happened"- BabyG (",)

gawul · Post by **gawul** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:15 am

[quote]"Don't cry because its over, Smile because it happened"- BabyG[/quote]

hey. i like that one, especially because it applies to some shit i'm going through right now

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:25 am

6 months, that was a surprise.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:29 am

spectabillis wrote:6 months, that was a surprise.

~
Some loves last a long time.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:04 pm

went here for a look and found old Nipples posts....God Love ya Man....

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:17 pm

love is being rejected, and coming back just to make sure...

love is searching for pleasure, and finding the source...

love is letting the arrogant walk their path, silently witnessing the beauty of cosmic retribution...

2_rivers · Post by **2_rivers** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:15 pm

Me has mad love. ooooh..........

RedHeaven · Post by **RedHeaven** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 pm

I HAVE TO COMENT ABOUT THE NO HIPPIES SPRAY PAOINT ON THE SIDE OF THE POST OFFICE:::

I am a 33 year old that used to listen to lots of punk rock music. The past 10 years tho, I have been "HIPPIFIED" hahaha...I laugh, cuz I might go to Hippie fests and listen to hippie bands, but that doesnt make me a astereotypical hippy, or, Im not a rug rat wook that is only interested in eating drugs and shite....there are many stereo types to HIPPY....I like the good side. I really dig some forms of hippy love and Ive been basking in that type of friendliness for a long time now. I think of my punk days, and say to myself, damn, Im having so much more fun these days. But I still dig my punk roots.
ANYWAY onto the story: This was my first Burn, not that that matters...but I knew I was going to meet some new types of people and I was open to it. Low and behold, I met a beautiful man who in stereo type land, is more of a goth punker. I hung out with his friends, all part of the POST OFFICE. I guess they had been doing the PO for about 6 years. Anyway, they were soooo punk rock. hahaha....I just gave them hell...."want some hippy love, little boy?" I would make fun of hppys, and make fun of them. Make fun of it all. that was my way of getting to them.
I had a hard time at first, but I just kept bing myself, and by the end of the week we were all drinking and singing 80s hits together, laughing. Sure, they werent as friendly as what I was used to, but the comaraderie was just as strong. WHAT A GREAT FIRST BURN EXPERIENCE! Totally taking me out of my comfort zone....but back into a familiar one.

I guess my point is that, WOW Burning Man is a place of true self expression, and i gotta remember that. If something bugs me, maybe ignore it, or approach it. I know this one kid Owen must of thought I was fucking annoying as hell when I started hanging out, but he must of thought I was pretty cool by the end of the week. I made sure I let them all know that hippies arent as bad as they think, er, some.....basically, everyones an individual, and you might like it. FUN STUFF.....I
L O V E it!

regynalonglank · Post by **regynalonglank** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:32 pm

heh...yeah. that's funny...some of my favorite people started out as annoying jerks i didn't know very well :) just shows ta go ya...good on ya for reaching out and jerking some chain. that's what it's all about, yup.

dang, i miss me a nipples poetic drive by...

oh, and this one's for the rebbi...

I LOVE ALL YOU CRAZY ASS BURNER MUTHAFUCKAS
JUST BECAUSE

boo yah!

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:31 am

lank, where are ya? all the radicals are here at Dolores Park waiting for you

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Much Love and hugs

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