Apollonaris Zeus Endorses Barack Obama as President!

[Ugly Dougly]

Back on track former President Jimmy Carter came out today with an unofficial endorsement of Obama. Yawn.

They are related you know?

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Obama takes 4 and leads in the count!

Taxi to the dark side is going to help him even more then it will help McCain in the general election this November!

AIIZ

[Apollonaris Zeus]

The Obama surge train is rolling along with 3 more wins. Wins with a big margin while Hillary loses the Latino vote. She and McCain are Old School. Old School is part of the problem that America is in. McCain’s votes on banking and the credit companies will be revealed and he will face the backlash of this country.

Hillary is facing a confidence problem with the Latino vote since this came about-
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008 ... ger-quits/

I predict that She will not win the Latino vote in Texas big enough to win texas and obama will!

Obama is going to love you like yo Mama!

AIIZ

[Ugly Dougly]

I don't give a ripply dipply about whether he can govern well. It's comparative; my dog woudl be a better President than the simpleton that he have now, and I don't even have a dog. I just want to see the Rush Limbaugh crowd deal with an African Master.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

I don't give a ripply dipply about whether he can govern well. It's comparative; my dog would be a better President than the simpleton that he have now, and I don't even have a dog. I just want to see the Rush Limbaugh crowd deal with an African Master.

You see yourself as a racist, but Obama is equally European as African. It just that his skin traits, as all dark skin is Genealogical more Dominate over White Skin. It is so because if white skin, were to say, become the dominate color in an area that had a high exposure UV, then mankind would all die from skin cancer. It's evolution! But darker people do not create vitamin D as easily as whiter people do, which is why melanin is not completely dominate.

Obama is half & half!

AIIZ

[unjonharley]

I don't give a shit if he's green
get behind him, help rid us of clinton..

[Apollonaris Zeus]

After Obama, Clinton is still a much better candidate then the rest of the presidential field.

AIIZ

[Mr.MaskedDude]

after that video of McCain "hows that song go...bomb bomb bomb...bomb bomb iran?" I just may vote for Barack after all. I just really wish the Democratic party would stop trying to associate itself with music. John Kerry going around with his stupid guitar and i forget what the hell it was that Barack did...in fact maybe it was just musicians putting out stupid little videos to support him...but it looks like a cheap sad little ploy to get votes.

Ohhh Kanye West likes Obama, he's got my vote.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

I think you're talking about "Obama Girl" she didn't even vote in the primary the ass!

McCain goes to the DARK side and votes against the ban on Torture and against his stance against torture! He is going down as a presidential candidate! Waffler- he said that it was never justified before he began sucking up to the NeoCons!

Kit Bond republicans intelligence committee top member lies about Fort Dix said that it came from enhanced interrogation techniques- it didn’t it came from an average citizen that informed the Army!

Nancy Pelosi says it a journey to the DARK SIDE!

Listen:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=18958581

AIIZ

[thisisthatwhichis]

The measure would prohibit all interrogation techniques except those permitted by the Apokiliptan Field Manual. Proponents say that will prevent the CIA from using such methods as simulated drowning, known as waterboarding.

Wheeeew..... They missed the B(O)(O)by Bording...............

BTW, my sources say Obama and McCain were recently seen holding hands...........

[Apollonaris Zeus]

The measure would prohibit all interrogation techniques except those permitted by the Apokiliptan Field Manual. Proponents say that will prevent the CIA from using such methods as simulated drowning, known as waterboarding.

Wheeeew..... They missed the B(O)(O)by Bording............... 8)

BTW, my sources say Obama and McCain were recently seen holding hands...........

See Obama is BM stuff all the way! McCains back in the closet and won't make an appearance until his presidental dream is finally over.

Bush backing up McCain after all the lies he said about him in their primaries together. That's going to hurt McCain. Suckn Ass is Hard to Do (gettin Hepatitis B from it is the shits too)

AIIZ

PS- can someone repost the link to that McCain video please?

[thisisthatwhichis]

Yea, but I still say the ticket to vote for is Obama/McCain..... watch for that at the convention...........

[Ugly Dougly]

It is what it is.

[dana]

Wow! The endorsement from Heyzeus Kristo seems to be paying off. The guy is actually getting some serious traction.

I found some of the comments coming in from the pundits and analysts were interesting (for whatever they're really worth.)
One comment was that if Clinton ended up as the nominee, it would be so polarizing that it would bring out a stronger republican vote to make sure she doesn't get elected.
The other (sort of paralel) was that McCain isn't "conservative" enough for many republicans and they might not bother to vote or even vote for Obama.

As far as my impressions so far, Obama kind of gained my respect for a bad mistake that initially really turned me off. It was the whole thing of implying that Hillary might be racist or something for her comments about Martin Luther King and LBJ's legislation. It was dumb, like he was trying to play the race card. But he saw the fallout and responded. He doesn't make those kind of comments and has stuck to a fairly positive and optimistic line.
Bush never bothered to change his rhetoric the whole time.

I don't give a ripply dipply about whether he can govern well. It's comparative; my dog woudl be a better President than the simpleton that he have now, and I don't even have a dog.

Funny that you should make that comparison. Towards the end Bush actually grew on me a little. My feelings were like that some people have for some goofy mongrel of a dog, that somehow still gains the love of its owner. dumb, ugly, but somehow still has a certain appeal....
go figure.

[oneeyeddick]

Kinda like that big zit that was on on the end of my dick.
It was slightly annoying and painful while it was there, but now that it's gone,
I only remember it as something that was kinda fun to play with.

[Green Wood]

Cartman gives advise to Obama on Hillary

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He said it not me!

[diane o'thirst]

Looks like I'm jumping in on this a little late...serves me right for going on walkabout...

Well, I started out with Richardson but when he bowed out, I went straight to Obama. And boy, did that work out.

I've been an active volunteer in the Eugene campaign and I even went up to Seattle to see him at the Stand For Change rally before the Washington Caucus. And now, we're gearing up to GET him to come to Eugene on Earth Day. What an adventure.

And this, and blogging on two sites for him, and ploughing through Digg.com to keep the Paulbots there from burying his articles, and throwing campaign returns and debate watch parties, going to the local Obama group meeting, rallies, et alia...and keeping a fair face on the whole time. Whew. Goddess help me.

In a nutshell...I went to Obama instead of Hillary because I like how he's running a clean, positive campaign. Plus, think about it: if you count Bush Sr.'s vice presidency, the White House has been in the control of TWO families for 24 years. A whole generation, think about that. Babies born during the Bush Sr. vice presidency are just now writing their doctorate theses. For two families to hold the reins of power for that long is not democracy.

More importantly, I'm impressed with his talent for bridging gaps, tearing down divisions and healing scars. I watched a video of Charlie Chaplin's last big speech in <i>The Great Dictator</i> a few days ago and 99.9% of what he was saying there can be overlaid the Obama movement message, with a skinlike fit.

The country is 231 years old. It's the 21st century. Dammit, it's <i>time</i> we grew up and earned our place on the world stage. We're turning a corner and we'll never go back to the way things were. And I for one embrace that tide-change, whole-heartedly.

Let the record show that Diane O'Thirst stridently endorses Barack Obama for the 44th President of the United States of America. So Mote It Be.

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Glad to have you on board Diane and thank you for helping to make a change!

I just read the Ohio and Pennsylvania polls on Barrack and Hillary. She's got a big lead there, but they're two states with a strong Republican and Rasist populist. They went Republican in the general election anyway last time. We forget how racist those two states really are, but there has been a major relocation of Blacks to eastern PA from eastern NJ. That may shift the tide away from hillary or at least give Obama enough delegates to maintain his competitiveness until Texas.

On another note, I over heard on a radio station that a important campaign worker for GW Bush is going to endorse Obama instead McCain. Forgot what his name was.

And Hillary is going negative in her radio ads. That is going to back fire like it did for Bill. McCain focus on Obama will benefit Huck and get him into more trouble.

Hillary and McCain are trying to gang up on him, saying his plans are shallow with no substance, but the economist rate his plan better then anyone else and they will do the same with his job creation plan.

Why are both Hillary and McCAin working on a new strategy? Because they have a week spot- their war votes! Death of thousands and Trillions of Dollars stolen in this war. They know they are vulnerable because of their support of the war.

If Bush and the Republicans including the Demos that voted with them in going to war and cutting taxes for corps and investors. That was one of my points in a question that I had asked eplaya (and Joel) about the Peloponnesian war and comparision of a long drawn out war like the Iraq war. It drained Athens and their economy: Rich at the beginning, poor and starved at the end. No country can endure that much money sucked out! GW Bush would be sitting on top of the world with the most powerful economy, but they threw away trillions.

Look who has the endorsement of experts and professors- it’s Obama, not them!

AIIZ

[diane o'thirst]

I just read the Ohio and Pennsylvania polls on Barrack and Hillary. She's got a big lead there, but they're two states with a strong Republican and Rasist populist.

My sister's going to vote for him but it's mostly because she can't stand Hillary. And we come from a long line of big-gun Democrats so there's no chance she's voting McCain. I've been gently leaning on her to "corrupt" her neighbours...

On another note, I over heard on a radio station that a important campaign worker for GW Bush is going to endorse Obama instead McCain. Forgot what his name was.

Sure it wasn't John Lewis, Clinton backer?
He's pulling in so many endorsements from all over the map, it's hard to keep track...talk about an embarrassment of riches...

Hillary and McCain are trying to gang up on him, saying his plans are shallow with no substance, but the economist rate his plan better then anyone else and they will do the same with his job creation plan.

They're doing that already on Digg. There's a little cadre of people going around and trolling his articles, repeating the "Shallow, shallow, no substance" mantra everywhere. And getting Dugg down into the neg-40s and -50s.
We basically reported and banned those guys. They say "No substance" and we go, "Go to his site and read his positions, no emptiness there!" But that only works if they're sincere, these guys aren't. They're just spamming and trolling, like the Paulbots did a month ago.
Hillary is also saying that the states Obama's won so far don't really count, while she's trying to buck the party rules and seat Florida and Michigan. Listen, I'm as mad as the next guy that they got their delegates stripped but the cards broke that way, ya plays with the hand you're dealt and you agree to that going in.
As startling as that seems, there's worse out there. Someone called into Faux News radio and compared Barack Obama to Hitler. Which of course triggers Godwin's Law, Fox loses match. The only comparison is that they were masterful orators. So was Winston Churchill, so was Cicero, so was Lincoln, so was Charlie Chaplin, so are hundreds of Shakespearean actors throughout history.

That aside...
The Eugene for Obama meeting tonight was a huge success. We're going to have a sign-making party on Tuesday during the Wisconsin and Hawai'i returns, and next Thursday we're doing a major sign-waving rally. Silver got every channel and newspaper in town to cover it so we'll be all over the news. We're expecting about 30 people to show up and it's going to be a blast!

[Kinetik V]

Obama = Camelot revisited and I'm worried it will have the same tragic ending.
I still haven't strayed from supporting Hillary but the SEIU endorsement grabbed my attention. In any case if she loses Ohio...then it will be high time to rethink things because she won't truly be a viable candidate after that.

[Glittering Clitoris]

"Hillary is also saying that the states Obama's won so far don't really count, while she's trying to buck the party rules and seat Florida and Michigan."

That bitch is dream'n! She went to FL & MI because she knew that she would win and would contest the delegates later. Since the demos discounted those states, they will not be counted later. She should have saved her money instead of crying to get her way. Barack will not let those votes be counted and he can take it to the courts! He will win the higher ground. Hillary will lose and she will lose my vote in the general is she wins, but she will most likely lose to McCain anyway if those two meet in the general election.

Obama = Camelot revisited and I'm worried it will have the same tragic ending.

Obama is no dead Kennedy! There would be a great backlash if it would happen. The Sight is SET!

Didn't Ken-I did get US into the Vietnam War! I don't have a high esteem of JFK for getting US in that war.

What was up with THAT! Emperialism that want it was! Not Communism! That was the excuse!

It's Barack, Not Barrick!

[Lady V]

KV, I agree with you on your support for Clinton vs. Obama. Although I was an initial supporter of Obama, I am now thoroughly disillusioned:

(1) his decision to have Donnie McClurkin campaign for him amongst evangelicals in South Carolina, and then defense of that decision in the interests of "unity," because "many voters hold his views." When challenged, he said McClurkin "isn't against gays who are happy being gay!!" This makes me question his commitment to civil rights. (2) His commitment to increase the military by 100,000 soldiers, and to raise the military budget beyond where it is now (which is ridiculously high). (3) His decision to make a business deal with someone he's described as "a friend for 12 years," to allow that person (Rezko) to hold fundraisers for him, and to accept personal cash contributions to his campaign (of which he has returned 75% under pressure), and then to defend himself by saying he didn't do anything wrong. That isn't the point. The point is, I know no one who could befriend a man, have lunch with him for 12 years, whose spouse hung out with his spouse, who read the newspapers who were already investigating Rezko, and somehow miss that he is an extortionist who is going to go to the big house for good reason. Who is he therefore likely to appoint to advise him in the White House? (4) His nonverbal behavior during the debates toward Clinton (he does not look at her when she is speaking--and he's the only one not to, and she's the only one he doesn't look at...this does not unity make). (5) His continual victim stance regarding ads against him...does he not realize this is a campaign? Does he not read factcheck dot org about what the lies his own campaign is spewing out? And is what he is saying about any of this going to inspire "unity"? Given that Clinton is his "enemy" at the moment, shouldn't he be treating this situation in a conciliatory way, given that that is his entire platform? Showing us he is capable of bringing together vastly opposing points of view? But that is not what is happening. (6) His determination (expressed in the 2nd to last debate, and again today) to pre-emptive invasion of Pakistan (a nuclear nation) if "intelligence" tells us that Bin Laden is somewhere in Pakistan. (7) His answer to the Columbus, OH Dispatch reporter about why he is the best candidate for President when it comes to foreign policy (part of a longer interview, with all candidates, just this week). McCain & Clinton gave detailed answers about their foreign policy experience, Senate Armed Services Committee service, Clinton's already established and positive personal relationships with dozens of world leaders, etc. Obama said he is the ONLY person who could bring world leaders together because he grew up in Indonesia (and therefore the Muslims will like and understand him), and because he has a grandmother in Kenya who has no running water (and therefore, people in poverty will like and understand him).

That, in my mind, is beyond inexperience. It certainly doesn't give me any hope at all, and it's not the kind of change I want. I will never vote for the man.

Notice that we don't hear much about any of this in the media. It's all out there, verifiable, fact. I am really disappointed in Obama, but glad I discovered all this before voting. (And for God's sake, man, send your grandmother some money!)

Whew. I feel better now.

[Green Wood]

Say it ain't so! This could sink his entire campaign.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ ... 5&only&rss

"Barack Obama won’t wear an American flag on his lapel, but on the wall of his Houston campaign office: a Cuban flag with a picture of Communist mass murderer Che Guevara"

Read this disclaimer on the video:
"The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign"

ZaphodBurner like Lady-V should list some real cites and should read the fine print.


Some people are still trying to make him an Islamic. Can't believe the lies. Now his grandmother is a poor black lady in Africa! And how many people peer into the life's of other people or how many have access to the criminal records of even their spouses and their secret lifes.

List the fact and back it up with cites!

[quote="Kinetic V. But...the fact remains that regardless of if he knew Rezko was a slimeball, he should have done his research and known what that property should have sold for. In short, he knew he was getting a sweetheart deal and he took it anyway.

It is not known who sold the home to Obama, nor is the current value of the property listed. I’m sure its less then the market value of 2005! Rezko only sold him 1/6th of the adjacent land for 1/6th of the value. Nothing but good negotiations there.

Did you hear about the woman sueing her home broker that she bought her home from because it is now worth 100k less then when she bought it.

[/quote]

They're still trying to make Obama to look like he's connected with this guy! Like It Hillary's Watergate affair.

List the cites, not the Sites Lady V!

AZ

[Green Wood]

[quote="Apollonaris Zeus"]The Professors at Harvard endorses OBAMA!

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=518130

U.S. Senator Barack Obama may be the youngest major contender vying for the Democratic presidential nomination, but three prominent Harvard faculty members said yesterday that the 45-year old’s life experiences, particularly his time overseas, give him an edge over his older competitors.

“Barack Obama is the only candidate who can give us 21st-century solutions to 21st-century threats,â€

[Apollonaris Zeus]

Hanky Panky in New York City

"The history of New York elections has been punctuated by episodes of confusion, incompetence and even occasional corruption. And election officials and lawyers for both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton agree that it is not uncommon for mistakes to be made by weary inspectors rushing on election night to transcribe columns of numbers that are delivered first to the police and then to the news media."

Has Tammany Hall raised its evil head or is the NYPD going back to its pre-Guiliani days of corruption?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyreg ... ref=slogin

What will be the adjust down for Hillary and UP for OBAMA!


Keep an eye on this one because alot of delegates will be shifting to OBama

AIIZ

[Kinetik V]

It's still primary season....so rather than sit here all conflicted I'm keeping my Clinton loyalties and intend to stay put until the convention. At that point what I want to see is a Hillary / Obama or Obama / Hillary ticket...whichever way it reads it's THE ticket to completely dominate the Republicans. McCain will become a footnote in history and that ticket and the 8 years to come will capture the world's attention like no other.

There's also the energy factor these two candidates bring...energy that will very likely energize Congress for a bit to get off it's collective ass and make some things happen. I'll say this...I look forward to the next State of the Union speech and the things our next president will come up with!

[diane o'thirst]

On the Che flag thing:
The people in there now are local people. National campaign knows about it and have issued a statement "discouraging" it as inappropriate. As soon as national campaign people get in there that flag <i>will</i> come down. It's a gaffe, it's not a red flag.

On the "won't swear on the Bible" myth: He's a Constitutional law professor. Separation of church and state gesture. Good for him, and good for us, too! It's a democratic republic, it's not a theocracy: the Bible has no place in our state functions.

On Vice Prez: I'm still hoping it'll be Obama/Richardson, and here's why.
Obama is perceived as a "gun-grabber," even though he was a Constitutional law professor for ten years, and studied Constitutional law in university. Richardson is <b>very</b> pro-Second Amendment: he has guns, and is an avid hunter. He doesn't stop at plinking pheasants, he has horses and he goes up the mountain after elk. Having Richardson on the ticket will go a long way towards convincing the moderate right to support the ticket. For those who are nervous about his appeal to Republicans, consider this: an Obamican vote <i>for</i> Obama is one vote that McCain <i>doesn't</i> have. Pick your poison: either we bury the hatchet and share the bed with the GOP, or we continue to be mired in a 100 years war with Mesopotamia (remember that YouTube video of McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"?)

Two: Obama wants to get the troops out of Iraq within sixteen months. Richardson had a plan to get them out in half that time and he drew it up in conjunction with a logistics officer who'd finished his tour of Iraq. Obama <i>needs</i> Richardson's plan to stage a pullout and not make a disaster of it.

Three: One of Obama's bigger planks was energy independence. Richardson was the Secretary of Energy under Clinton, and had the best energy plan to get us weaned off foreign oil in the race, as evidenced by his endorsement by the Sierra Club. Not to say that Obama couldn't pull it off on his own, but think how much better it will work in concert with someone who knows the plank and has a well-drawn, workable plan.

Four: Obama is good at foreign relations. Richardson is better and has the experience to ease him into it.

Five: Most of the Obama people I've talked to are seriously supportive of an Obama/Richardson ticket. And a lot of Richardson orphans came over when he bowed out.

Six: Richardson is a well-known and very capable diplomat. Barack <i>needs</i> someone who's well-known in diplomacy circles on his team, because we got a lot to make up for after eight years of CheneyBush.

On his defense stance: Iraq aside, we're still at war. He's taking the troops out of <i>Iraq</i> and sending a detachment to Afghanistan to chase down and mop up Al Qaeda and the Taliban, <i>because we should never have left there.</i> He's not anti-war: he's for <i>wise</i> war. Think of Obama as Athena, not the block bully like Bush.
Bin Ladin has been shuttling back and forth between Tora Bora and northwest Pakistan, and this is where a Richardson vice presidency would help immensely. We'll have to be able to open up diplomatic channels, especially after the Bush era, in order to get in there and achieve our objective with the least amount of time, investment and damage. GWB got Pakistan on board through threats: he essentially said, "Help us round up these guys or you're on the list." The trick here is to get Bin Ladin and Company between a rock and a hard place.

Bottom line: Barack Obama cares about people. He cares, he listens, and his power to bring people together is incomparable. Haven't we had enough of division and internecine strife?

[Apollonaris Zeus]

I have always respected Richardson as a diplomat. He also has a clean record unlike Hillary’s Tyson Insider Trading scandal. But Hillary would carry more votes to the election as a running mate including the Latino, Jewish and Oriental votes. I haven’t read any polling data on them, but I would believe is would have a large advantage. Obama has more then a 10% lead on McCain and Obama hasn’t concentrated on him other then his plan to stay in Iraq a hundred years if It needed. With Hilary, I think it would be 15% lead.

AIIZ

[Ugly Dougly]

He is no doubt on his way to being VP.

I have always respected Richardson as a diplomat. He also has a clean record unlike Hillary’s Tyson Insider Trading scandal. But Hillary would carry more votes to the election as a running mate including the Latino, Jewish and Oriental votes. I haven’t read any polling data on them, but I would believe is would have a large advantage. Obama has more then a 10% lead on McCain and Obama hasn’t concentrated on him other then his plan to stay in Iraq a hundred years if It needed. With Hilary, I think it would be 15% lead.

AIIZ

[diane o'thirst]

With Hillary anywhere near the ticket, the Republicans would converge and rip us to shreds. This is known. Right now Obama has the support of liberal and moderate Republicans (<i>not</i> an oxymoron, I know several) who are sick of the theocrats running the party; but if he isn't a Presidential candidate we lose them in the coalition. Hillary is divisive and she's running a business-as-usual, mudslinging, dirty campaign.

Enough is too much. It's the 21st Century and we need to move forward, eyes forward, not back to the "good ol' days before Bush" (which I remember weren't so good, either). If you want a female vice president, Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas is on the short-list, though personally I don't know much about her. I don't know where she stands and what her governing style is like...save for that "evolution = out, creationism = in" school debacle of a couple years ago.