Riot in Oakland over Bart cop ruling?

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IS there going to be a riot if the BART Cop is found innocent?

Poll ended at Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:18 pm

Yes
6
38%
Yes
6
38%
No
2
13%
No
2
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Total votes: 16

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:09 pm

Not good!

You all are seeing this. In real time no less.

This is not good.

This could have been squashed if people had common sense.

This is too fucked up.

Everyone has a problem now.

I tried to tell everyone.

So wanted to .........


makes no difference.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:00 pm

fact of the matter is , there are too many idiots here.

There are a ton of GREAT PEOPLE here but they are few and far between.

I've argued with people that said there were WMD's in Iraq, George Bush and his regime were the way of the world, and I "dont know what I am talking about" when it came to IPV6 and other technical matters.
Most of all, I just am tired of arguing with racist calling me a racist.

People like this are not only dangerous but are STUPID.

This has been a proven fact as I have proven over and over again for many years here on eplaya to be right with posted facts as those that try as best they can cant PROVE ME WRONG have not been able to.

You guys win.

This is a board for IDIOTS and I dont belong here nor at BM anymore!


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Post by Sham » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:42 pm

DVD Burner wrote:fact of the matter is , there are too many idiots here.
There are a ton of GREAT PEOPLE here but they are few and in between.
You guys win.
This is a board for IDIOTS and I dont belong here nor at BM anymore!
Cheers and have a great life.
Stop right there. This is the first thing you've said that I am agreeing with. This is NOT a cut and paste?
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Post by Eric » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:39 pm

...and so it starts, a Footlocker is being looted.

Nothing says you're upset with a verdict like stealing some shoes.

I hope my other Bay Area peeps are safe.
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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:49 pm

Not sure how far it will get. I hear there is more law enforcement than there are "protesters".
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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:53 pm

Also, the report I got is that windows were broken at the store but no report of any major looting.
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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:08 pm

So it looks like the cops got it stopped pretty quickly. Some broken windows, apparently some display stock from the windows taken, but no major looting.
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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:16 pm

ah! So it seems that it's the usual suspects. "Anarchists". Just watched the press conference from the Oakland police chief. The cops had advance warning and were able to put the kibosh on it quickly.
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Post by ygmir » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:23 pm

as expected, Geekster...........at least, that's what I thought.
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Post by Eric » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:28 pm

KRON4 is showing that the real protesters are staying peacefully in one area. The looters somehow got around the police (or came in late) and were moving through a different area a block or so away.

At least it's very plain they're not the people who are really upset by the verdict. Usually it's not so clear.
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Post by ygmir » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:30 pm

hooray for the peaceful protesters...........

thanks Eric, for posting that.
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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:16 pm

"At least it's very plain they're not the people who are really upset by the verdict. Usually it's not so clear"

I saw video of police escorting youngish white kids with balaclavas away from the disturbance area.

Well, at least some of them had balaclavas.
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Post by Eric » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:37 pm

I've seen images people of multiple races in the looting area. Just because you're black doesn't mean you aren't using this as an excuse to loot.

Normally the "anarchists" are mixed in more with the real protesters, so it's not quite as obvious they're just using "insert protest here" to break things and cause problems. It usually gets blamed on the protests in general.

This is probably one of the first times I've seen the media separate the two, which is a great improvement in local broadcasting.

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Post by geekster » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:49 pm

which is a great improvement in local broadcasting.
I absolutely agree. Many years ago I lived in Western Europe. There were what amounted to traveling bands of recreational "protesters" who would go from city to city when some dignitary or another would visit and proceed to tear up the downtown areas. Basically they would walk through the central business districts smashing windows, burning cars, etc. It was always the same people over and over again. They would be arrested, fingerprinted, and hauled down to the train station and put on their way. It was during the Cold War so Western European governments were loathe to be too hard on them lest it appear that they were "oppressing dissent". It has only been recently that the European countries have begun cracking down on them by intercepting them on the trains, etc.

One of the tactics they used to good effect was to wait until some dignitary or conference was held in a location that had some other strife brewing and where a small spark could set off a larger conflagration. Say a city or country was having labor troubles, they would come in and raise holy hell and that would incite the locals who were already worked up anyway to join in.

I applaud the citizens of Oakland for keeping their heads. You deserve a great measure of respect for not allowing others to play on your emotions and cause you to destroy your own community. Well played.
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Post by gyre » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:01 am

Nothing new about that.

Often police and government agents.
Many agents provocateurs.

Sometimes from other countries.

A friend photographed all the riots and shootings in ohio before the kent state murders. (no, they weren't the first shootings)

Many, many people showed up over and over where they shouldn't be.
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