What will Law Enforcement decide to crack down on this year?

[Packoderm]

I've read here that it's been various activities in years past. Will this be the year they decide to crack down on nudity, public drunkenness, smoking within 20 feet of tents or other structures, or some other offense?

[Eric]

Will this be the year they decide to crack down on....

1) Idiots doing drugs publicly

2) Idiots peeing on the playa

3) Idiots serving minors

4) Idiots having public sex (if straight- maybe. If gay- definitely)

5) Idiots trying to sell drugs

6) Idiots acting like idiots to the LEO's

7) Idiots getting drunk and combative


Basically- don't be an Idiot and you'll be fine.

[Packoderm]

Those seem to be things that have been established as taboo. I'm interested in what new things they might crack down on. Health codes regarding sharing drinks?

[Eric]

I'm interested in what new things they might crack down on. Health codes regarding sharing drinks?

Unregulated breathing.

Seriously, there is no way to know what "new things" "they" are going to decide to go after. However, I have a feeling that it will be things that Idiots do because "it's Burning Man" and they don't think the laws of the county, state & country apply in BRC.

Pretend, law-wise, that you're in Reno or Vegas, but with really lax "community standards". Its really that simple.

Or you can worry about unknowables.

Your choice.

[junglesmacks]

(I was quietly munching popcorn waiting for the responses to this one. Brilliant snark laden yet truthful responses, Eric. Bravo, my good man. Bravo..)

[Token]

Rufi-Coladas, date rape & pedophiles/pederasts. They have a special sting operation kind of like 21 Jump Street, you know, cops that look like they are 16.

They also have new thermal goggles that pin point the E-yards out cuz they are burning up which is probable cause for search of the individual and their camp, followed by a mandatory blod draw.

Also new this year is a permanent presence at the Med tents and with REMSA. Again trying to crack down on the drug fiends and dealers. They have these nano-gps trackers they secretly tag you with and then track your movement hoping to bust you and the dealers.

[Packoderm]

I wouldn't consider any action on date rape or pedophilia as cracking down in the spirit in which I state because those are actual crimes involving acutal victims. LEAs at BM cracking down on giving a cup of coffee without a permit is cracking down for the sake of cracking down.

Make no mistake, times are changing. Rock concerts were much, much more lax in the '70s than they are now. I remember seeing Bill Graham himself with a bullhorn outside the gates at a late '70s concert at Cal Expo saying, "Alcohol is not allowed in the concert; drugs, however, are allowed in the concert." A whole era later at a mid '90s Pink Floyd concert, I a young man who stumbled into a kiosk poster, act dazed, and say, "That wasn't too good, but it was beautiful man." get totally tackled and choked down by the man. There's been a sea change of attitude. Still, we've got to stand up any way we can, so yes on Prop 19 in CA.

While I don't anticipate breaking any laws at BM, and I'm certainly not going to commit any kind of crime against anybody, I am interested to see the level of toleration that goes on there.

[theCryptofishist]

He's been on the board ~ 48 hours and he's already opening this can of worms.

Nowhere to go but up.

[Kinetik V]

He's been on the board ~ 48 hours and he's already opening this can of worms.

Nowhere to go but up.

I looked at his 11 posts...don't see anything that bad. He did ask a question that I've wondered about in years past. It seems like the LEO's pick a new enforcement target every year.

[Eric]

While I don't anticipate breaking any laws at BM, and I'm certainly not going to commit any kind of crime against anybody, I am interested to see the level of toleration that goes on there.

and just think, in just about two short weeks you get to find out. This is only partially meant as snark.

Your actions will decide the level of tolerance you see, quite honestly. Personally I see tons of toleration & have yet to have a bad interaction with a LEO- and that's since 2003. I also know people who've had run-in's within their first 2 days on the playa. All depends on the person.

Two weeks. All will be answered, Grasshopper.

[Packoderm]

I'm sure it'll all be fine. By virtue of us talking on a chat site, we get chat site conversation. All seriousness aside, my question on this thread just might be relevant on this board next year. Just remember that I was the first to consider it. And yes, it's been only 48 hours. I have neglected my usual Baja travel site to play here.

[Token]

This is exactly what happens when you smoke too much weed at too early of an age.

The tolerance level in the state of Nevada and on Federal Lands is ZERO! Nevada actually has some of the nastiest drug laws, long prison sentences.

[theCryptofishist]

And let's not forget that in terms of actual arrests the numbers are so small as to make all stats meaningless.


So, Token, what do you think is the ratio of cop posts on the board to arrests?
7 to 1?

[Packoderm]

Other than guesses to what new will be illegal or banned, we're pretty much done here.

[ygmir]

And let's not forget that in terms of actual arrests the numbers are so small as to make all stats meaningless.


So, Token, what do you think is the ratio of cop posts on the board to arrests?
7 to 1?

hey now......

[Kinetik V]

I'm sure it'll all be fine. By virtue of us talking on a chat site, we get chat site conversation. All seriousness aside, my question on this thread just might be relevant on this board next year. Just remember that I was the first to consider it. And yes, it's been only 48 hours. I have neglected my usual Baja travel site to play here.

My apologies, I was obviously mistaken in my assessment. The question might be relevant in a year? Yeah, so which agency are you doing advance scouting for again?

[Token]

And let's not forget that in terms of actual arrests the numbers are so small as to make all stats meaningless.


So, Token, what do you think is the ratio of cop posts on the board to arrests?
7 to 1?

I couldn't care less. I just found the question and conversation silly and pointless. I love special posts.

[gyre]

Don't you guys read the cop forums?

[Packoderm]

Don't you guys read the cop forums?

No, I've never hear of it. What do they discuss there - where the doughnut stand at BRC will be located?



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[gyre]

I've never seen any specific reference to the burn, but haven't looked.

I think those are more political questions than police.
Check another forum for that.
But other questions you might have about the way they think are probably answered there.

Mostly, they are just like other forums.
Sometimes I have to go to the homepage to see what kind of forum I'm on.

[caveatlector]

I've got quite a bit of experience with cops in the past, and unless they're so different down in the states I can assure you one thing:

They're folks who volunteered for this gig, who are interested in seeing what goes on, and are sworn to uphold and maintain the law. They will ticket you for being stupid, but they're unlikely to begin turning over rocks unless they're given no particular choice.

Burning Man is a huge regional event. Everywhere between Reno and Gerlach makes a ton of money off of burners coming through and stocking up for the Playa, Law Enforcement aren't in the business of making this event over policed and unfun strictly because it would drive our business away.

Don't be stupid, and you'll be fine.

[lucky420]

In regards to mj, getting caught with less than an ounce (first time offense) of mj in nevada usually just results in a $600 fine. getting caught on federal land by a federal agent with a bug up his ass may result in something stiffer. We also have legalized medical mj, but of course that does not apply on federal lands and 87% of nevada sits on federal land...just keep it on the dl

[C.f.M.]

2) Idiots peeing on the playa

This. It made me so, so sad to see all the piss spots on the playa last year.

mj?? legalized mj?



Sounds awesome.

[AntiM]

Other than guesses to what new will be illegal or banned, we're pretty much done here.

You have severely underestimated the eplayan ability to post endlessly about nothing.

[Elderberry]

Other than guesses to what new will be illegal or banned, we're pretty much done here.

You have severely underestimated the eplayan ability to post endlessly about nothing.

LMAO!!

So true.

JK

[Dr. Pyro]

Maybe it's just me, but I always sort of thought peeing on the playa was a rite of passage. I remember last year (and every other year for that matter), on burn night, looking down at the playa from the raised platform of our art truck and thinking to myself that the playa reminded me of a giant dalmation with all of the spots. If they want to seriously cut down on "that problem" (which I do not think is a problem in the least) have more accessable JOTS where the people congregate. This isn't rocket science.

[knowmad]

At two Festis I've been to this year that I Often atend. One thing is new, and the cops are on it like, Well, like a burner on Bacon.
DMT You only need to Smell it once, It Smells like Some one Smoking Dog Shit through a Shoe. The cops Generaly were truning a blind eye to Weed but they were draging off People L&R. Some People were not involved but Drunk Near by and They got nabbed Just because they looked like a Gorked out Dipwad. So Morel of the Story kiddes; Don't Burn DMT, Don't Let your Campmates Burn It and Go the opisite Direction When you Smell it cause There Will Be DougnutHeads!
Oh and DMT Really is not a Drug intendid for Party use. It is intended for Spiritual enlightenment for small bands of rainforest dwellers too unfortunate to be able to recive TelaEvangilest Programs.

[Packoderm]

I was surprised to find that salvia is legal in Nevada.
http://www.salviamap.com/nevada.html

[Elderberry]

At two Festis I've been to this year that I Often atend. One thing is new, and the cops are on it like, Well, like a burner on Bacon.
DMT You only need to Smell it once, It Smells like Some one Smoking Dog Shit through a Shoe. The cops Generaly were truning a blind eye to Weed but they were draging off People L&R. Some People were not involved but Drunk Near by and They got nabbed Just because they looked like a Gorked out Dipwad. So Morel of the Story kiddes; Don't Burn DMT, Don't Let your Campmates Burn It and Go the opisite Direction When you Smell it cause There Will Be DougnutHeads!
Oh and DMT Really is not a Drug intendid for Party use. It is intended for Spiritual enlightenment for small bands of rainforest dwellers too unfortunate to be able to recive TelaEvangilest Programs.

Damn, good to know. I guess we'll just have to shoot it up then. Or drink it in tea.

JK

Just kidding; I don't inject recreational drugs.

[Isotopia]

Will this be the year they decide to crack down on nudity, public drunkenness, smoking within 20 feet of tents or other structures, or some other offense?

Hopefully - for the good of everyone - this will be the year that LEOs will crack down on stupidity.