Sneaking In...

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:12 pm

Know anyone thinking about it?

The latest Jackrabbit Speaks has this to say about cluetards contemplating a cheap way in.

If someone is found without a ticket in a vehicle, that
VEHICLE AND ALL INSIDE IT are barred from entry. We take this very
seriously. Everyone in the vehicle is an accomplice. That person must
purchase a ticket immediately. Stealing from the event is stealing from
everyone. If unable to purchase a ticket, that person, AND THE VEHICLE
they came with are asked to leave the event.

Zero tolerance ahead. Be warned.

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:17 pm

Zero tolerance ahead. Be warned.

Hope everyone does heed this warning. If you are having trouble raising cash for a ticket, contact the BM Org now to see if there is some way to volunteer for reduced admission.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:14 am

Typically, you volunteer this year and get next year's ticket covered.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:31 am

As our Chinese friends are fond of saying (when they happen to be particularly upset), "You, and all your generations..." 'Bout time. When the word gets out about all the passengers and the vehicle itself not getting in because of one stowaway, I think gate searches are going to find a hell of a lot less sneaks than previous years. But sometimes people surprise me.

_tears_ · Post by **_tears_** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:38 am

That is sad that it is just THAT big of a problem.

Sneaking in is a No-NO people...we buy tickets for a REASON

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:35 am

Captain Goddammit wrote:Typically, you volunteer this year and get next year's ticket covered.

True in many cases for a totally free ticket. However, some gigs get you a reduced ticket. Others get you a reduced ticket and a refund on your ticket price after you complete your promised service. And if you can get a cheap ticket and work at the Center Camp Cafe, you get tips which would help cover the cost of the ticket. And these are just options for people who don't plan ahead much.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:44 am

If you are having trouble raising cash for a ticket, contact the BM Org now to see if there is some way to volunteer for reduced admission.

Hate to piss on the parade again but... if you're only just getting around to figuring out contingencies and deciding to volunteer for the sake of a reduce entry price rather than volunteering for the sake of contributing then don't be surprised if you hear NOTHING back from the project regarding your queries.

Everyone (both paid staff and volunteers) in the SF office are busy as hell attending to the necessary needs of getting ready to move up to the playa. Taking time out to answer queries from those who've not taken the time to plan and prepare is not going to be at the top of anyone's priority list in dealing with your questions.

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:00 am

Badger wrote:
If you are having trouble raising cash for a ticket, contact the BM Org now to see if there is some way to volunteer for reduced admission.
Hate to piss on the parade again but... if you're only just getting around to figuring out contingencies and deciding to volunteer for the sake of a reduce entry price rather than volunteering for the sake of contributing then don't be surprised if you hear NOTHING back from the project regarding your queries.

Everyone (both paid staff and volunteers) in the SF office are busy as hell attending to the necessary needs of getting ready to move up to the playa. Taking time out to answer queries from those who've not taken the time to plan and prepare is not going to be at the top of anyone's priority list in dealing with your questions.

Agreed. However, one can try and if you hear nothing back consider not going this year. Then start saving now for next year. I don't know if the Cafe has enough volunteers yet, but the tips could help out someone who is broke. Also, I know there's a need in Exodus, but I can't guarantee what the ticket arrangement would be. One would need to buy a ticket and then see if it's possible to get some sort of rebate after the work is completed. Note, I'm not guaranteeing anything.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:37 am

Stealing the tips would be okay, right?

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:41 am

Bob wrote:Stealing the tips would be okay, right?

LOL. If only there were an edit button...

TheJudge · Post by **TheJudge** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:59 am

I dont think it will change drastically the amount of people that attempt to sneak in. Its a real shame too. Everyone out there wants to be there and usually plans for the event almost a full year in advance.

I dont see how you someone couldn't scrape together $250 over the course of a year.

unjonharley · Post by **unjonharley** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:40 pm

Hey stop warning these flaks. Part of my fun is being taken away. I just love to hear from the fools that try to sneak in or sell drugs. It's truely funny, a real knee slaper.

Badger · Post by **Badger** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:51 pm

Typically, you volunteer this year and get next year's ticket covered.

Not so. Past volunteering indicates a committment to working a particualr aspect of the event. Reduced reduced rate tickets (usually first tier prices) are often extended to people who after one year of volunteerirg, indicate that they plan to do so again and have shown an investment in the particular group they've contributed to. Such low entry tickets are more of an incentive to get good, committed people back rather than as a reward for past works.

That's not to say that at one time the process was set up to reward past volunteer efforts. My understading is that most groups operate under the new way although there may be an exception or two from group to group. Also, most groups tend to pay attention to folks who come into the fold well before the 30 day countdown. Experience suggests that a good number of people looking to volunteer so close to the event so with an ulterior motive - namely getting 'something' for 'volunteering' which is pretty much frowned upon if not outright derided and sneered at.

TheJudge · Post by **TheJudge** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:12 pm

unjonharley wrote:Hey stop warning these flaks. Part of my fun is being taken away. I just love to hear from the fools that try to sneak in or sell drugs. It's truely funny, a real knee slaper.

I enjoy catching them too, but this is supposed to be my vacation, so anything I can do to further contibute to my utter laziness is fine with me.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:08 pm

[quote="Badger] Experience suggests that a good number of people looking to volunteer so close to the event so with an ulterior motive - namely getting 'something' for 'volunteering' which is pretty much frowned upon if not outright derided and sneered at.[/quote]

Here's one of my experiences: someone volunteering for a job with no intention of giving a good solid effort to it, strictly going thru the motions so they could get "something" from the org.

"derided and sneered at".
...Word

Fuck that...
... and fuck them.

PurpleKoosh · Post by **PurpleKoosh** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:37 pm

robbidobbs wrote:Fuck that...
... and fuck them.

Nah - I'd much rather fuck someone worthy of sharing my bed and my body.

what're you doing Thursday afternoon, Robbi?

Stormy · Post by **Stormy** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:16 am

robbidobbs wrote:[quote="Badger] Experience suggests that a good number of people looking to volunteer so close to the event so with an ulterior motive - namely getting 'something' for 'volunteering' which is pretty much frowned upon if not outright derided and sneered at.

Here's one of my experiences: someone volunteering for a job with no intention of giving a good solid effort to it, strictly going thru the motions so they could get "something" from the org.

"derided and sneered at".
...Word

Fuck that...
... and fuck them.[/quote]

So you'd actually prefer that the fuckers sneak in? If we don't give people options then they will do it. Yes go ahead and invoke the argument that they should have saved up all year like the rest of us. But things do come up, emergencies do happen. So if anyone here has never done a dumbass thing in their life then they are free to throw stones at the yahoos.