NEW lead on '04 assault

milenko · Post by **milenko** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:42 am

"Jokes" about clowns are just not funny. Let"s try to keep our perspective pepole.

milenko · Post by **milenko** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:44 am

Let the mimes speak for themselves

TheMuse · Post by **TheMuse** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:59 am

Clown jokes are very funny... lighten up folks.

P.S. My best wishes for a speedy recovery man.

mars · Post by **mars** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:02 am

Clown person,
Please consider that you might have misinterpreted some of the posts about cowns--I know it's hard to see a joke when it's about ourselves and also when it's in a thread that's so serious to begin with, but I really think you misinterpreted some comments made in jest.

Flackmaster,
May your body heal quickly, may your heart follow. I really hope you get your bike back, but if you don't, I hope you grow to love your next bike as much or more. I'm sooooo sorry this happened to you!

TheMuse,
Hi! I enjoyed hanging out at your camp and sharing a clove one afternoon...Appreciated your hospitality!
TheMars

devilgirl · Post by **devilgirl** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:08 pm

Milenko:
ribbit, ribbit,
frogs love everyone.
you get what you resist the most.
embrace the clowns, love the frogs, and we won't make fun of your closed mind anymore.
***
Get well soon, Flackmaster. You deserved better than that. Please don't be scared of all clowns, though. The guy who attacked you was really a monster. Clowns, like frogs, don't endorse violence.
Sending you love and healing-vibes from down below...
devilgirl

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:37 pm

okay maybe not clowns; what about young men?; what about anyone in the dark?

assault lends itself to pejoratives -- otherwise you would be afraid of everyone. everywhere, all the time

mars · Post by **mars** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:57 am

FM,
Even under perfect conditions, it's gonna take awhile to get over what happened--you were severly traumatized. Let me just plant the suggestion that in 4-6 months if you still feel like you do today about young men/people in the dark etc...there's a trauma healing technique called EMDR that some therapists specialize in. Use it if you need it, it's effective for this kind of thing.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:10 pm

Can I try to lighten up this thread if I can for FM and some happy clowns?

Smile and hurry up and get better please.

Jim Graham · Post by **Jim Graham** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:19 pm

Hey all,
I worked with Flackmaster on this issue. The assailant has said he was part of a different camp in the vicinity but on a different street. I've also spoken with the organizer of the clown camp on Neptune and been assured that the assailant was not one of them.

I can certainly understand Clown Lover's concern regarding retribution and just wanted to add my two cents on it.

Jim/ronjon

clown lover · Post by **clown lover** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:25 am

Thanks Jim.

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:40 am

Don Muerto wrote: Sheesh, -it's not like you are a mime or anything worthless like that.

Is it true that clowns hate mimes, and visa-versa?

- Wondering

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:50 am

though i'm getting a lot off mileage out of the clown aspect of this tradgety, please know that it just a coping mechanism. i really don't want every clown to be suspect next year

though it would give my poor old midwest parents a heart attack to hear me say it, NAMBLA and OUCHY are two of the nicest people i know behind the make-up

if violent shitheads had labels we'd be able to keep them all out of BM....sadly they don't

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:18 am

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:22 am

http://www.blindtoaster.com/LeftElbow.htm

geekster · Post by **geekster** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:27 am

Ouchy is a standing funny in my office. He does "meeting facillitation" here in the SF Bay area. We keep talking about ways to get Ouchy into the office. Maybe on the boss' birthday we can have him come over. I just want to see the look on the receptionists face when he comes in, asks for the boss and she (while never taking her eyes off Ouchy) calls him up and says "You have a ... uhm ... er ... visitor in the lobby!"

http://www.ouchytheclown.com/

http://www.eros-guide.com/files/ouchy1.htm

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:29 pm

Flackmaster wrote:http://www.blindtoaster.com/LeftElbow.htm

Great, how ya gonna get by airport security with that?

Love and respect to the end Flackmaster

spectabillis · Post by **spectabillis** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:31 pm

milenko wrote:Let the mimes speak for themselves

they will if you torture them long enough

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:34 pm

spectabillis wrote:
milenko wrote:Let the mimes speak for themselves
they will if you torture them long enough

Are you sure this is a good idea. Perhaps they really do know something about their own vocal annoyingness when they take the White Vow of Silence.

jellibee · Post by **jellibee** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:04 pm

After a very positive life experience during our trip out to the playa in 2002 (we did the, imho, very fun and nifty video drome (large scale video projected on white geodome (yurt) in which you would watch in the quiet inside of the dome or set up chairs (as some did) around the outside of the dome to watch... It was great. We had an expensive and quiet genny that we left unattended while we went out to enjoy everyone else's projects. It was a life changing experience. I met the nicest people out on the playa. We were at 9:15 and only about 1 block off esplanade.

This year was wholly different. We were at 3 and out quite a bit. We came this year without a crew to do a theme camp but we did gift all the lighting and flooring for the Esplanade roller rink from a recent project we did. It was nice to see it being recycled and reused on the playa. Our costumes were somewhat ruined by the cold weather as we found we had to bundle up on Wed and Thu nights. We had a weird experience on Thu. Someone kept trying to offer us liquid from an open wine bottle at one of the DJ/dance camps on the Esplanade near 2 which we refused kindly. Our van was vanadalized and on Friday night I was assaulted. Because we had some recreation stuff with us, I was hesitant to report anything. I did at some point go to a medical tent at 3 and was sent to Sanctuary, but instead of getting medical help, they wanted to know if I had taken drugs. My wife was with me and we eventually left sanctuary and returned to our camp and decided to leave early. It was quite a unique experience as well, but not the one I had hoped for. Anyway, no whining, just data. Your playa experiences will vary.

MoisturePup · Post by **MoisturePup** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:50 am

Flackmaster wrote:okay maybe not clowns; what about young men?; what about anyone in the dark?

assault lends itself to pejoratives -- otherwise you would be afraid of everyone. everywhere, all the time

A few years ago when I was mugged in L.A. at gun point I had several friends ask me the race of the person who mugged me, aside from the police who actually need that sort of descriptive info, and it really disturbed me. It seemed like it was irrellevant to the story in my opinion.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:44 pm

Basically, clowns were out this year on the playa fashion list as well as next year!

A II Z

eatnobeef · Post by **eatnobeef** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:52 pm

I've heard so much about this story from a friend of mine. It started out funny, then truned very, very bad--ending with Flackmaster getting hurt. The 'alleged' fool who hurt Flackmaster was 'Shitfuck the Clown.' That much I know. If any of you out there have any information about Shitfuck or Bad Vibes Camp--step up to the mike!! I know Bad Vibes existed because I went by there and felt the bad vibes personally. ick. Not really the spirit of Burning Man, that filthy camp, trash everywhere...so much for leave no trace!

Flackmaster: I am so sorry for what happend to you. I heard about your story from a friend of mine about a week ago and I just want to extend my warmest cyberhug to you for a quick recovery. No one should have to endure violence like that. I hope the fool who did this to you gets the book shoved up his arse.

Flackmaster · Post by **Flackmaster** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:51 pm

jellibee wrote: Our van was vanadalized and on Friday night I was assaulted. Because we had some recreation stuff with us, I was hesitant to report anything. .

please, please, please report this or, if it is too late, post some details. It might be the same guy. If not it is still important to know that this stuff happens. We do not need to be perfect to survive, but we need to deal with the problems with zero tolerance. Yeah the cops asked me if I was doing drugs or drinking too. Yeah I had been drinking, but that had NOTHING to do with me being assaulted. I guess if I had not gone out at all at night nothing would have happened either, but you can't live that way; specially not at Burning Man. Maybe if we start reporting all the bike thefts, assaults and vandalism the authorities will have less time for little bullshit pot busts.

D

NEW lead on '04 assault

frog luv

who then?

One bit of information

no clown clown retribution

recovering

trying again....

Re: trying again....

Re: who then?

Shitfuck