Random thoughts...

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:50 pm

NICE!

mayavin wrote:

EvilDustBooger · Post by **EvilDustBooger** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:34 am

I wonder if anyone has seen or heard from Harry Houdini?

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:53 am

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:58 am

Joss Whedon

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:11 am

Studies show only as much as 75% of human behaviour is caused by
stimulus-response mechanisms. The other 25% (or more) can be thought
of as coming from the "ghost in the machine"

the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the sense

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:17 am

or nontraditionation

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:25 am

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:29 am

principles of intentioned chance

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:34 am

Process art is an artistic movement as well as a creative sentiment and world view where the end product of art and craft, the objet dâ€™art, is not the principal focus. The 'process' in process art refers to the process of the formation of art: the gathering, sorting, collating, associating, and patterning. Process art is concerned with the actual doing; art as a rite, ritual, and performance. Process art often entails an inherent motivation, rationale, and intentionality. Therefore, art is viewed as a creative journey or process, rather than as a deliverable or end product.

journey... no destination

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:25 am

Since the earliest beginnings of the Art of Music, the modes have always been intimately connected with the mysteries of the Sun through the ritual use of the reed-blown pipes. These little instruments, greatly beloved by the people of all nations at all times, bear the secret of the modes embodied in the borings of the lateral holes which utter, as the fingers uncover them, what the soul of the musician breathes into the pipe.

In those ancient epochs man was kept continually in touch with the spiritual worlds by means of the two potential streams of sound, the one descending, the other ascending, born ever anew from each other, interweaving and working together to help on the evolution of man in the Cosmos. These two streams of sound were symbolised by the sunshaft or arrow falling aslant to earth, and crossing an arrow winging its flight upwards, It is to this two-fold stream that the ancient philosopher Heraclitus alludes when he speaks of the Harmonia (the Greek word for Mode) as a twice spanned bow that shoots the arrow through the contraries.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:26 am

Helmholtz's entire theory amounts to what we today call in physics a "scalar," "linear," or at best, "quasi-linear" theory. Thus, Helmholtz assumed that all physical magnitudes, including musical tones, can at least implicitly be measured and represented in the same way as lengths along a straight line. But, we know that every important aspect of music, of the human voice, the human mind, and our universe as a whole, is characteristically nonlinear. Every physical or aesthetic theory based on the assumption of only linear or scalar magnitudes, is bound to be false.

A simple illustration should help clarify this point. Compare the measurement of lengths on a straight line with that of arcs on the circumference of a circle. A straight line has no intrinsic measure; before we can measure length, we must first choose some unit, some interval with which to compare any given segment. The choice of the unit of measurement, however, is purely arbitrary.

The circle, on the contrary, possesses by its very nature an intrinsic, absolute measure, namely one complete cycle of rotation. Each arc has an absolute value as an angle, and the regular self-divisions of the circle define certain specific angles and arcs in a lawful fashion (e.g., a right angle, or the 120Â° angle subtended by the side of an equilateral triangle inscribed in the circle).

Just as the process of rotation, which creates the circle, imposes an absolute metric upon the circle, so also the process of creation of our universe determines an absolute value for every existence in the universe, including musical tones. Helmholtz refused to recognize the fact that our universe possesses a special kind of curvature, such that all magnitudes have absolute, geometrically-determined values. This is why Helmholtz's theories are systematically wrong, not merely wrong by accident or through isolated errors. Straight-line measures are intrinsically fallacious in our universe.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:59 am

By now we have all got so used to the taste of factory eggs that if we eat a really fresh free range egg it tastes sort of weird and gamey. It's the same with tuning systems. We're all so used to equal temperament now, that when we hear something that's in rational tuning it sounds odd and out of tune.

If you listen to the music of any culture other than European since 1750, you will hear rational tunings. They are the natural, intuitive way of feeling comfortable with a tuning. They are based mathematically on the harmonic series so that the frequencies of the notes that make up the intervals are in simple, whole number ratios like 3:2 or 5:4, hence the name rational. This is a principle which goes all the way back to Pythagoras who recognised the basic principles of rational tuning by the simple process of measuring and twanging.

Let's clear up some terms before we go on. Bearing in mind that everything nowadays is measured against the standard of equal temperament, any tuning or scale that includes notes smaller than a semitone, or different from an equally tempered interval is called microtonal. The term "rational tuning" is used to include justly tuned major and minor scales and also the "exotic scales" such as Arabic maqamat and Indian ragas. But it excludes the quartertone scales beloved of Charles Ives and Alois Haba and also other scales involving the division of the octave into equal steps of 19, 31, 53 or whatever.

Equal temperament was really a great idea when it started. It grew out of the need of mediaeval musicians to be able to play in any key. J.S. Bach celebrated this with "The Well-tempered Keyboard" - studies in all the major and minor keys. Previous to Bach there were various meantone systems which were compromises to give a nice justly tuned feel while allowing the ability to change key. Many of these systems such as Werckmeister are going through a revival with the drive for authenticity in early music.

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:58 pm

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the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:07 pm

meaning, as the act of placement

placement, as the act of meaning

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:18 pm

meaning,placement

neither without motion;
though the context given,
ineluctably still

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:21 pm

http://www.imaginefx.com/02287754331037 ... 0&maxh=400

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:28 pm

I wonder what mule meat would taste like on the grill.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:37 pm

you might ask one of those gals in the shows just outside Tijuana........

I'm not sure it matters where you sit though.............

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:58 pm

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:34 am

note the pelts

animal, vegetable, or mineral?

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:36 am

or by another name

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:37 am

now, how does this make you feel?

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:38 am

some ground rules?

Make may be:

make (software), a computer software building utility
Make (magazine), a DIY/technology periodical
Make: television, a DIY/technology television program
Make, Botswana, a small village in the Kalahari Desert
Make may also be:

Maker, an English village
Makemake

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:40 am

where'd the wonders go?

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:42 am

c'mon... quit hiding

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:44 am

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or perhaps you'd prefer to be alone

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:47 am

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mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:51 am

mayavin · Post by **mayavin** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:53 am

the fire elf · Post by **the fire elf** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:59 am

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