It’s total nonsense for reasons we discussed above ... the whole temporal paradox of pandemic response.
CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Oh cmmon, I was fucking around with that!
It’s total nonsense for reasons we discussed above ... the whole temporal paradox of pandemic response.
It’s total nonsense for reasons we discussed above ... the whole temporal paradox of pandemic response.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Here’s a very informative graph I found on the interwebs today:
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
I can 't seem to find the "What happens if we stay closed too long?" article. In short: We wake up to a post apocalyptic economy; no jobs to go back to; monopoly money in our wallets; and govt aid is a meaningless exercise in hyperinflation. We will still be dying for lack of Covid19 vaccine, plus also dying of previously treatable ailments because we attritted irreplaceable healthcare workers while thinking we could flatten the curve indefinitely.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
So either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?
What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.
3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.
3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Yep, we just proved we can live without all these unnecessary businesses!A-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 am3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
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A billion people in China laugh out loud at that!A-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 amSo either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?
What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.
3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
Communism for EVERYONE!!!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
hahaha, really?A-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:00 amSo either we all die cause of the virus or we all die cause capitalism collapses?
What a colossally bullshit fucking system we came up with here.
3rd option: abolish money and start feeding, housing and providing medical care to everyone.
"WE" ,yeah, or do you mean you think that can happen because someone else will pay for it?
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
I posted elsewhere on eplaya, but just having this thread topic start with "CoVid-19" means this vid could be appreciated by some burners here:
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Asking who's going to pay for it or inferring similarity to a monetarily based economic exchange is completely irrelevant.
Read it again.
Read it again.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Here is an item for your fevered thinking cap.
The 2018 census suggests that 10% of burners come from outside the US and Canada.
The virus is going to be cycling on different curves with their own timescales in each country around the world. The Donald may be imposing travel bans or 14/x-day quarantines on arrivers from any country, as well as any number of health tests, at any time last minute. So if you are an international ticket holder anything could happen.
If the BORG in its infinite wisdom decides to hold the 2020 event, it might be a good idea to make all tickets capable of secure electronic exchange through the ticket vendor.
The 2018 census suggests that 10% of burners come from outside the US and Canada.
The virus is going to be cycling on different curves with their own timescales in each country around the world. The Donald may be imposing travel bans or 14/x-day quarantines on arrivers from any country, as well as any number of health tests, at any time last minute. So if you are an international ticket holder anything could happen.
If the BORG in its infinite wisdom decides to hold the 2020 event, it might be a good idea to make all tickets capable of secure electronic exchange through the ticket vendor.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
For some humor on a serious topic from Hawaii:
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
….but what if the air in the tank has some virus in it?? ….oh no!!!!!!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Where does the housing and food and medical service come from?A-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pmAsking who's going to pay for it or inferring similarity to a monetarily based economic exchange is completely irrelevant.
Read it again.
Who does the work?
What is anyone’s incentive to work at all?
They get everything free anyway, right?
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
geez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.
Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?
Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.
Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?
Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
A-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:44 pmgeez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.
Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?
Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.
Oh my god, it's HUGE!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Festival Case May Be Preview Of COVID-19 Consumer Suits
Law360 (April 2, 2020, 5:13 PM EDT) --
The rapid spread of COVID-19 and related government public safety mandates have caused numerous companies to make difficult business decisions, as well as reassess their ongoing business practices. As companies prepare for the road ahead, a new lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court about a music festival’s refund and exchange policy may signal the direction that the plaintiffs bar will pursue in consumer class action litigation arising out of the immediate fallout of the coronavirus.
https://www.law360.com/articles/1259168 ... umer-suits
The venue is LA County where LIB is likely incorporated. It would probably be some time before a decision, appeals etc. But likely the BORG attorneys are reading the briefs and revising the fine prints.
Law360 (April 2, 2020, 5:13 PM EDT) --
The rapid spread of COVID-19 and related government public safety mandates have caused numerous companies to make difficult business decisions, as well as reassess their ongoing business practices. As companies prepare for the road ahead, a new lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court about a music festival’s refund and exchange policy may signal the direction that the plaintiffs bar will pursue in consumer class action litigation arising out of the immediate fallout of the coronavirus.
https://www.law360.com/articles/1259168 ... umer-suits
The venue is LA County where LIB is likely incorporated. It would probably be some time before a decision, appeals etc. But likely the BORG attorneys are reading the briefs and revising the fine prints.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
I don't post much but this says it all. That's all you need. This says it all.lucky420 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:19 pmA-RockLeFrench wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:44 pmgeez I don't fucking know why does anyone ever help anyone ever or do anything worthwhile??? The argument that we need money to motivate people to help each other out is pretty fucking thin right now as people are literally dying by the thousands because a profit-motivated system is an egregious fucking failure.
Like, what is the actual fucking point of having a society if we're not actually working to make things better for everyone?? Do we like watching other people suffer or die?
Of all people, burners. Come the fuck on.Yes
You can apply any terms to any situation to rationalize bias or perspective.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
"But why will anyone work if they aren't paid?"
On a page about Burning Man.
Hilarious
On a page about Burning Man.
Hilarious
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Do you all not understand that BRC is a party, paid for by lots of money, not a sustainable real cashless society?Lonesomebri wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:32 am"But why will anyone work if they aren't paid?"
On a page about Burning Man.
Hilarious
People are dying of Covid-19 because of capitalism? Are you saying if we had a cashless society there’d be no viruses? Or that there’d already be a vaccine if the world had no money?
You really believe everyone around the world will work for free, with zero incentive to work hard except your own moral compass.
Even though everything is free regardless.
But, how dare I point out any flaws in that idea while there’s a virus going around.
OK man... I just have to back right on outta here, shit be getting crazy.
Good luck with all that.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Of course we are not a real, sustainable cashless society. That does not negate the thousands of Burners who not only volunteer, but pay through the nose to be there. I think there may be a lot of dreamers that believe in the ideal. They are countered by the cynical plug and players and their gophers. Overall, I prefer not to be the cynic about all the amazing aspects of BRC. My biggest focus is on the massive and myriad art, and the incredible concept of creating it in such a remote and inhospitable environment. I appreciate the positive interaction with most other Burners, and the spontaneous meetings and friendships. But I also recognize that the background that maintains it all has to be in the real, hard nosed world of business and government. There are people making a very good living off this. That is what I see as the price for what is still a positive idea and experience. Do not blow off the unpaid effort of the volunteers. They are not suckers. They are keeping enough of the dream to make it remarkable for most of us.
Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Y’all is WRONG!
It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.
Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.
It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.
Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.
It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
I mean, with mind control, they'll make us think we're happy. As such, we won't know the difference, so, it's a win/win!Token wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pmY’all is WRONG!
It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.
Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.
It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
Hahaha! No invisible rogue codes!Token wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pmY’all is WRONG!
It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.
Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.
It’s gonna be fucking awesome!
The obvious answer is to ban all electromagnetic waves and viruses from BRC!
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
We have a BINGO!ygmir wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:35 amI mean, with mind control, they'll make us think we're happy. As such, we won't know the difference, so, it's a win/win!Token wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:03 pmY’all is WRONG!
It’s The 5G mmWave radiation cross-mutating SARS with HIV and spreading it in contrails irradiated by the low orbit satellites with The 5G.
Then The Bill Gates will do the vaccine but it’s just nanites that will attach to the amygdala and mind control us into sheeple.
It’s gonna be fucking awesome!

Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
During the pandemic, all forces are used to recover from the coronavirus pandemic. In the UK for example space agency signs contracts in order for the transportation of medical supplies and even drones to deliver coronavirus testing kits backed by UK Space Agency.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
So has anyone come up with any real info on the supposed “super spreader” 2020 Burn?
I didn’t get the virus by being there and neither did anyone I know.
I’ve heard nothing about nearby towns (that are actually many miles away) being stricken.
I didn’t get the virus by being there and neither did anyone I know.
I’ve heard nothing about nearby towns (that are actually many miles away) being stricken.
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Re: CoVid-19 and The 2020 Burning Man Event
none of the burnner face book have been sick .. maybe burnners have a few more brain cells .. excluding you, of courseCaptain Goddammit wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:17 amSo has anyone come up with any real info on the supposed “super spreader” 2020 Burn?
I didn’t get the virus by being there and neither did anyone I know.
I’ve heard nothing about nearby towns (that are actually many miles away) being stricken.
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