HOW CHICKENSHIT IS JOHN McCAIN?

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:49 pm

ygmir wrote:Are you proposing if congress has (I'm just pulling numbers here) a 70% disapproval rating, people hate all 60% of Rep and only 10% of dems?
*gasp!* Bad math! *choke* Must not *shudder* correct.


Okay, we'll make an assumption that there are fifty dems and fifty repubs. It's almost true and it makes the math easier. To get a 60% disapproval rating you'd have to have 70% disapproval for the repubs and 50% percent for the dems, because the percentage would be the average of the two different ratings.

There, I feel better now. You may continue with your pointless running in circles.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:50 pm

I hope I got the math right and haven't made a fool of myself.
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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:17 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote:Are you proposing if congress has (I'm just pulling numbers here) a 70% disapproval rating, people hate all 60% of Rep and only 10% of dems?
*gasp!* Bad math! *choke* Must not *shudder* correct.


Okay, we'll make an assumption that there are fifty dems and fifty repubs. It's almost true and it makes the math easier. To get a 60% disapproval rating you'd have to have 70% disapproval for the repubs and 50% percent for the dems, because the percentage would be the average of the two different ratings.

There, I feel better now. You may continue with your pointless running in circles.
You are pretty close, which is why their popularity is so low--they can't get anytinng done because neither party has 60% majority needed to pass any legislation.

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Post by ygmir » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:50 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote:Are you proposing if congress has (I'm just pulling numbers here) a 70% disapproval rating, people hate all 60% of Rep and only 10% of dems?
*gasp!* Bad math! *choke* Must not *shudder* correct.


Okay, we'll make an assumption that there are fifty dems and fifty repubs. It's almost true and it makes the math easier. To get a 60% disapproval rating you'd have to have 70% disapproval for the repubs and 50% percent for the dems, because the percentage would be the average of the two different ratings.

There, I feel better now. You may continue with your pointless running in circles.
as I said, I was just throwing numbers out to make my point............and, it seems, I did.
But, thank you for looking down from your pedestal to correct me and grant me leave to jog circuitously...............

I was attempting to discern whether or not the person I was referring to was insinuating that "the people" hate all republicans and only a few democrats, thereby creating the disapproval figure, or, that it's a figure spread across the board (congress in general), meaning they dislike, as a percentage, the same number of democrats as republicans.........

geeze............
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Post by betrdanevr » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:31 pm

She seems to *enjoy* being "that way," ygmir . . .

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Post by ygmir » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:13 pm

ah well, that's how we get to know one another......good and bad.........

I can't think of anyone here, that, at times, I either resent or admire...........

how human..........
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Post by Elderberry » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:33 pm

ygmir wrote:ah well, that's how we get to know one another......good and bad.........

I can't think of anyone here, that, at times, I either resent or admire...........

how human..........
Well said.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:15 pm

Ack! Bad Grammar! Must-


Ah fuck it.
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Post by ygmir » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:09 pm

pot, kettle, black?.........
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Post by betrdanevr » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:35 pm

Clear down to omitted commas! :lol: :lol: :P

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:17 am

McCain Group Funded Rashid Khalidi Palestinian support group

Tue Oct 28, 2008 at 04:42:50 PM PDT

This afternoon McCain's campaign had Drudge post their demand that the LA Times release their video of a banquet Obama attended in honor of Rashid Khalidi. Background provided by Ben Smith here:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... video.html

In a stunning development, HuffPost's Seth Walls has uncovered that McCain himself has an extensive relationship with Khalidi, including providing his group with hundreds of thousands of dollars in grant money. For some strange reason, Drudge pulled his Khalidi story shortly after the HuffPost article appeared. I think McCain's camp is running scared- please either rec this diary or have Kos post the HuffPost article. This is one attempt at race-baiting that will blow up in McCain's face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/2 ... 38606.html

During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.

A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. (See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14 of this PDF.)

The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes."

Another example of McCain poorly vetted campaign strategy that blows up in his face: McCain will now lose Florida soundly!

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How McCain change his position

Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:38 pm

We all wondered what happened to McCain Maverick stance on Bush's policies:

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It was alien Carl Rove

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Yeah I know I posted it before but it is so apropos.

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Post by littleflower » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:58 pm

it was OK once but really ... it's not THAT good...

what are you gonna do, post it on every thread?

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:59 pm

Now there's an idea. :P

Hey, dont worry. It'll be gone after the election anyway.
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Post by littleflower » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:06 pm

i am having trouble imagining this place post-election ... not sure if it'll be better, or worse!!??!

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:12 pm

littleflower wrote:i am having trouble imagining this place post-election ... not sure if it'll be better, or worse!!??!
Just boring, but hey we got larry to talk trash about

What's he's been up to anyway these days. been awful quiet about his endorsements lately. Bet he's been channelling our ticket money to those Repubs again.

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Post by DVD Burner » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:40 pm

littleflower wrote:i am having trouble imagining this place post-election ... not sure if it'll be better, or worse!!??!
This place will be a blast as always.

Maybe even Lillyflower will come for a visit. :D
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:59 pm

AP poll shows Obama backers gleeful, McCain's glum


By ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON, Associated Press Writers

http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-200 ... r-emotions

WASHINGTON (AP) — That smiling guy walking down the street? Odds are he's a Barack Obama backer. The grouchy looking one? Don't ask, and don't necessarily count on him to vote on Tuesday, either.

More John McCain supporters feel glum about the presidential campaign while more of Obama's are charged up over it, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll released Saturday.

The survey shows McCain backers have become increasingly upset in recent weeks, a period that has seen Obama take a firm lead in many polls. One expert says the contrasting moods could affect how likely the two candidates' supporters are to vote on Election Day, possibly dampening McCain's turnout while boosting Obama's.

While 43 percent of the Democrat Obama's backers said they are excited over the campaign, just 13 percent of McCain's said so, according to the survey of adults, conducted by Knowledge Networks. Six in 10 Obama supporters said the race interests them, compared to four in 10 backing McCain, the Republican senator from Arizona.

On the flip side, 52 percent of McCain supporters said the campaign has left them frustrated, compared to 30 percent of Obama's. A quarter of McCain backers say they feel helpless, double the rate of those preferring Obama, the Illinois senator.

More McCain supporters also feel angry and bored, while Obama's are likelier to say they are proud and hopeful.

All of this is a bad sign for McCain, according to George E. Marcus, a political scientist from Williams College who has studied the role emotion plays in politics. Negative feelings about a campaign can discourage voters by making them less likely to go through what can be a painful process: Voting for someone who will lose.

"If I'm getting my head handed to me by a tennis player, my brain is saying, 'Do I want a second match? No,'" Marcus said. "Why do something that's going to lead to failure?"

Marcus said such emotions can be overcome by outside events, such as a campaign or neighbor urging a person to vote. There's also the danger exuberant Obama backers might decide not to vote because of overconfidence. The Obama and McCain organizations have combined to spend hundreds of millions of dollars for those very reasons.

Obama leads McCain among likely voters in the AP-Yahoo News poll, 51 percent to 43 percent.

Supporters of McCain cite a dislike for Obama, dissatisfaction with the campaign's tone and frustration with how news organizations have treated their candidate.

"Flat disgusted, how's that," said Billie Hart, 80, a Houston Republican backing McCain. "Because that's the way I feel about it. I don't like the individual."

Many Democrats say they're energized by a candidate they perceive as different from most politicians and who can make a real difference.

"Elections have always been so ho-hum,"said Kathleen Rockwell, 61, an Obama supporter from Redmond, Wash. This time, "I feel connected. And that feels good."

The AP-Yahoo! News poll, which has followed the same group of 2,000 people since last November, underscores how individuals have reacted to the campaign's currents. For many McCain supporters, it's not been a happy period.

Three in 10 McCain backers who report being frustrated now said in September they weren't. That is quadruple the number who became less frustrated.

At the same time, one in five McCain supporters are not interested in the campaign now who said they were in September. Half that number gained interest. By similar margins, McCain backers report becoming more angry, bored, overwhelmed and helpless and have become less excited, proud and hopeful.

"I'm real interested in having it over," said Michele Roos, 64, a McCain supporter from Newport News, Va.

Enthusiasm by Obama backers has largely stayed steady since September, though slightly more of them — 31 percent — now say the campaign makes them feel proud.

"I didn't like the candidates before," said Angelique Sims, 38, an Obama supporter from Shawnee, Okla. "I like his character. I like the things he represents. He represents my views."

A closer look at the numbers show how that emotions are playing out to Obama's advantage in several pivotal groups of voters.

Forty-eight percent of those under age 30 who support Obama say they are excited over the race, compared to just 21 percent of those young voters who back McCain. That age group has been a reservoir of strong support for the Democrat.

Just 44 percent of whites supporting the Republican say the campaign interests them, compared to 58 percent of whites and 72 percent of blacks supporting Obama.

At the same time, half of McCain supporters age 65 and up say they're frustrated, compared to three in 10 of Obama's older voters. Also saying they're frustrated are 53 percent of whites backing McCain — compared to 40 percent of whites and 12 percent of blacks behind Obama.

The AP-Yahoo! News poll of 1,753 adults was conducted Oct. 17-27 and had an overall margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points. Included were interviews with 803 Obama supporters and 703 McCain supporters, with error margins of plus or minus 3.5 and 3.7 points respectively.

The poll was conducted over the Internet by Knowledge Networks, which initially contacted people using traditional telephone polling methods and followed with online interviews. People chosen for the study who had no Internet access were given it for free.

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AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius and AP writer Christine Simmons contributed to this report.
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Post by Ugly Dougly » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:12 am

Democrats vote on Tuesday, and Republicans vote on Wednesday. don't forget!

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Post by Apollonaris Zeus » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:00 am

Why did McCain lose?

Because he was slammed by the same republican machine eight years ago with lies and unfounded attacks- he fathered a black child! McCain's team did have the response tactics and support numbers that the Obama had to counter act those lies or distortions when his election team and Republican machine began to use the same OLD tactics.

The Republican machine didn't give its full blessing until after months of haggling and no full endorsements of its leaders. McCain had to backstep on all his "Maverick" image against the most questionable platforms of his Neo-cons party. That made him look weak. Then He lost valuable time trying to sell the new staunch neo-con republican image losing his highly perceived independent image. He now lost the anti-bush vote and moderate vote. If they had backed him up with the full support of the machine he would have won.

His poor ability to be a quick study of the issues of the state of the economy, the blue collar problems and the housing crisis: same as bush I.

his poorly vetted choice of his running mate drove the nails into the coffin.

Then there was Joe-the-plumber- Joe is now going on to a new country singer saying screw the plumber job i'm now famous. He will be more successful the person below.

He was a beaten man right from the getgo of this elections.

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Post by Elderberry » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:17 am

Who cares. It's over; we won! Now the work begins.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:40 am

jkisha wrote:Who cares. It's over; we won! Now the work begins.

JK
It'll be interesting to see the: "I'd a, We'd a, you should a" turn to : " I'm unna, we're gunna, why'd you"

and, will there be: " ya-but, I didn, uh-oh"

I truly hope we have a great turn around.........I'll do what I can to help.
Of course, it depends on the changes offered...........
If the offer is communism, I'll oppose it, if it's freedom, I'll embrace it..........
but, that's just me.

Everyone has their notion of "change", lets see how they match up.........
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Post by Elderberry » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:20 am

ygmir wrote:I'll do what I can to help.
That is all that is required.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:54 am

jkisha wrote:
ygmir wrote:I'll do what I can to help.
That is all that is required.

JK
I might banter semantics with you:

perhaps, it would be phrased:
that is all that is asked........

i only say that, because, being the rebel I am....

"I'm willing to do most anything you ASK, but, nothing you require, me to do"

It's a saying I've used for years.........
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Post by Elderberry » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:56 am

ygmir wrote:
jkisha wrote:
ygmir wrote:I'll do what I can to help.
That is all that is required.

JK
I might banter semantics with you:

perhaps, it would be phrased:
that is all that is asked........

i only say that, because, being the rebel I am....

"I'm willing to do most anything you ASK, but, nothing you require, me to do"

It's a saying I've used for years.........
If it wasn't too late, I would edit my post. I like how you said it better.

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Post by ygmir » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:59 am

thanks.
sometimes, I just like "polite".............
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Post by RingO'Fire » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:31 am

I must say, McCain gave the most eloquent, gracious concession speach I've ever heard last night. Regardless of why he lost, at the very least, he was a very gracious loser.
...but it seemed like such a good idea at the time...

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Post by Elderberry » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:38 am

RingO'Fire wrote:I must say, McCain gave the most eloquent, gracious concession speach I've ever heard last night. Regardless of why he lost, at the very least, he was a very gracious loser.
Yes he was--too bad we can't say the same for the crowd.

Hmmm, maybe one of the reasons he didn't win was that he couldn't really manage his 'supporters'. I don't think they were rooting for him as much as they were their own bigoted ideology.

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