Things you assume...

[ygmir]

remember my feeble mind is just skipping along smelling flowers, while being passed by a mental jaguar..........

You miss the oddest things sometimes, but you're not fooling anyone.
We all know how smart you are.

I vote worst sandbagging ever!

Save it for when I say something insightful, please?
jaguar lol

at least I didn't call you an Austin-Healey.........

ahhaahaa

[wh..sh]

I was only surprized because you clearly think things through, and are obviously highly educated.


It seems quaint how incredibly valuable spice was at one time, but it illustrates a powerful motivation.

You made a great point. I humbly retract my words about why people would eat peanut butter (although, that is how I mostly begin questioning and answering various cultural habits).

And, I wish you could give me some credit and know that I don't need any sandbagging.

[gyre]

Point there, Yggie


Whoosh, the sandbagging remark was addressed to Ygmir.
For what it's worth, I can barely eat peanut butter myself now, though I occasionally want it.

For a real shock, try the older style with no salt!

[theCryptofishist]

I'm assuming you're making sense, or some point here? I just can't follow......please, elucidate, for us, " the masses".

Spice is valuable now, in our current world, full of variety.

Imagine how driven you would be if you had no choices.
That was the state of the world once.

It drove exploration and trade like nothing else.

of course. any cursory knowledge of world history tells us the spice trade drove much of the events of historic times.

But that was about 1) preserving food and 2) covering the taste of imperfectly preserved food.

[theCryptofishist]

The thing is, wh..sh, I assume that you are incredibly foreign while I simultaneously believe you are very western.
Obviously, if you go to burningman you are interested in western forms of art and expression and are basically a creature of the internet values, but you ...

I don't know what--when I try and examine this it will fall apart like gossamer, but when I stop paying attention, it will re-assemble itself.
I'm this far from asking you stupid questions about your marriage...

[BBadger]

Most people I have met, in the western world, assume that I grew up eating peanut butter or even like it.
I usually assume they are going to be shocked.

I wonder how anyone thought of mixing two bland things (peanut + butter) together?

Shame on your teachers!

Lack of spices, like most places through most of history.
And peanuts are an efficient energy source.
No butter involved, it is 'butter' as a description.

Have you had good peanut butter?
It's usually heavily salted.

Try corn as a diet, then try peanut butter.
See 'spice wars'

How the hell do you make the jump from peanut butter to a lack of spices or the spice wars?

The key motivation behind P&B sandwiches is that P&B creates a sweet sandwich of a particular flavor--not because of a lack of spices. THAT is the answer to wh..sh's question, not some condescending ramble about the roots of the flavored foods and spice trade.

People eat P&B because they like the flavor, it's cheap, easy to prepare, and its fans probably grew up with it as kids. It's also the preferred ready-made meal packs for soldiers in the US, even with access to all kinds of different flavored packs, spiced or not.

Wh..sh probably just grew up not understanding or liking the flavor. I don't like P&J either--or at least don't prefer it. Sweet sandwiches were never my thing, just as I don't like it stuff like apple chunks or grapes are put into sandwiches. Some kids loved P&B (some would only eat that). I assume it was because they liked sweet things.

[ygmir]

Most people I have met, in the western world, assume that I grew up eating peanut butter or even like it.
I usually assume they are going to be shocked.

I wonder how anyone thought of mixing two bland things (peanut + butter) together?

Shame on your teachers!

Lack of spices, like most places through most of history.
And peanuts are an efficient energy source.
No butter involved, it is 'butter' as a description.

Have you had good peanut butter?
It's usually heavily salted.

Try corn as a diet, then try peanut butter.
See 'spice wars'

How the hell do you make the jump from peanut butter to a lack of spices or the spice wars?

The key motivation behind P&B sandwiches is that P&B creates a sweet sandwich of a particular flavor--not because of a lack of spices. THAT is the answer to wh..sh's question, not some condescending ramble about the roots of the flavored foods and spice trade.

People eat P&B because they like the flavor, it's cheap, easy to prepare, and its fans probably grew up with it as kids. It's also the preferred ready-made meal packs for soldiers in the US, even with access to all kinds of different flavored packs, spiced or not.

Wh..sh probably just grew up not understanding or liking the flavor. I don't like P&J either--or at least don't prefer it. Sweet sandwiches were never my thing, just as I don't like it stuff like apple chunks or grapes are put into sandwiches. Some kids loved P&B (some would only eat that). I assume it was because they liked sweet things.

watching for moisture

[gyre]

It makes me wonder how well peanut butter would do if introduced today?

A lot of food was very dull when it was introduced though.
That's what i addressed.

And yes, Fishy, spices were and are medicinal and meat was in need of preservatives, but I still think variety is the overriding factor.

Easy to forget medicinal applications, but some spices I like, I can't use in the quantities I prefer without unwanted 'side effects'.

[Box Burner]

of course you can assume anything and the end result is always the same.

I believe you're making an assumption there. And a generalization, which are always wrong.

Perhaps we are all looking for something real profound?

But in reality...

... whenever you assume something, you make an ass out of u and me

[theCryptofishist]

of course you can assume anything and the end result is always the same.

I believe you're making an assumption there. And a generalization, which are always wrong.

Perhaps we are all looking for something real profound?

But in reality...

... whenever you assume something, you make an ass out of u and me

And we are all going to die.

[Box Burner]

That would not be an assumtion!

[theCryptofishist]

Actually, my father is please that they wont invent immortality before he dies.

But he worries about all sorts of odd things. But he does have some pretty impressive scientific knowledge.

[Zhust]

... whenever you assume something, you make an ass out of u and me

Oh gosh — I'm so sorry. I knew I'd made an ass of myself, but I had no idea that somebody named Box Burner was being made an ass as well! With great power comes great responsibility.

[Box Burner]

damn! Seems like there ought to be a way to remove me from the equation.

[knowmad]

damn! Seems like there ought to be a way to remove me from the equation.

Pull out??

[Sham]

There is a penalty for early withdrawal.

[AntiM]

I've always assumed individual immortality would end up sad and tragic as you outlived all your friends and loved ones. If everyone was immortal, that would be damn dull and what about babies? When would it kick in? Would we all be geezers? Purchased immortality would result in self-selected immortals, or those who selected immortality for only the people they deemed "worthy" or of value. Ick. And if you got to choose, how do you know you chose correctly a couple hundred years down the line? I may love what's left of my family, but I don't care to associate with them now, and if I chose eplayans, we'd be drowning in snark sooner than later.

Highlander was on to something, they lopped off each other's heads, not for the Quickening, but because they were damned tired of listening to each other.

[FIGJAM]

Just like heaven!!!

[BBadger]

"I'm a 1500-year burner and I should get the tickets instead of those tourist, spectator 200-year burners!"

[theCryptofishist]

"I'm a 1500-year burner and I should get the tickets instead of those tourist, spectator 200-year burners!"

Nice!

[knowmad]

I have a few Assumptions about Heaven.
If it's really heaven wouldn't Value be Pointless? Why Streets of gold and not Diamond?
What if I don't like harp music?
When given my new heavenly body will it be a male body again?
I'm kinda of assuming you guys didn't let George Carlin in, Why?
So is Jesus is still single or doe's he really get all the Nun Nookie? Fallen away nuns are still fair game right?

[Ugly Dougly]

I assume that you look exactly like your avatar, 24/7.

[knowmad]

umm, Pretty damn close.
Tiara is for social occasions, and the wigs change with the skirts.
on bad days I look like this:

[Savannah]

on bad days I look like this . . .

Me too.

[illy dilly]

So is Jesus is still single or doe's he really get all the Nun Nookie? Fallen away nuns are still fair game right?

And you know after a life of celibacy those Nun's are wanting it too!

[theCryptofishist]

I think heaven is like an alpine meadow in the Rockies, only with all the pleistoscene mega-fauna intact. If you don't like that one, you get on a subway to the next heaven over. Only one stop away...
I"m still waiting for the report from my legs to confirm this...

[gyre]

I like Pleistocene heaven.

Twain said there is a heaven for the united states, but there weren't many white people or english speakers there, so it wasn't too comfortable.
The big celebrations were for the arrival of bartenders.

Green Pastures still makes more sense than most stories.

[media]

from about 4:00 in

[AntiM]

on bad days I look like this . . .

Me too.

Bad hare days?

[Savannah]

on bad days I look like this . . .

Me too.

Bad hare days?

. . .

[Box Burner]

so is this a good hare?