MOOP Map Live 2013

Talk about your camp or project's LNT plans (and MOOP problems) here. Discuss cleanup tips. Ask questions or share ideas on what works and what doesn't.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by ACfromSAC » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:28 pm

Team GREEN checking in. Yessssssss.

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by tamarakay » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:32 pm

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by maryanimal » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:50 pm

Elliot wrote:YESSS!!! Green, of course. Not that I had any doubt. It's just fun to see it on the map also.:D

Big thanks to Figjam and my other camp-mates!

Yay! Not a Fucking Camp Camp is GREEN!!
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by fresh » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:58 pm

Not gonna go there. Not gonna point fingers, just curious.... Wasn't Ego Ergo Frum actually First Camp (at the Center camp keyhole on 9:00 side)? I find it odd that camp AND BLM Camp were both marked as they were with red/yellow. Maybe it was a practical joke by DA?? :roll:
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by VultureChow » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:02 pm

Pink Jesus's camp was made green and the red spot moved over. Interesting.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by MyDearFriend » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:03 pm

VultureChow wrote:I know shaming isn't allowed, but I assume gloating is.

GREEN!!!!

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by BoyScoutGirl » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:06 pm

Wow, that is one green city! I'm happy to see the part of our camp that was troublesome last year left no trace this year.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by GreyCoyote » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:11 pm

Just pure awesomeness! So much green even in the face of all those 'Noobs!

Say what we will about newbies that just dont "get it", the MOOP Map tells a different tale. :mrgreen:
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by TT120 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:39 pm

The one camp you would expect to be green is all red. The BLM camp.

Wassup with that?

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Dr. Pyro » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:49 pm

I'm damn near certain the Prince Phillip Tiki Bar was a wholly owned subsidiary of Gigsville. Again.

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by tattoogoddess » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:44 am

Lets not forget there was huge 8 hours windstorm and storm storm mid/end week. ALOT of shit got blown to the trash fence. So I think the city got a break this year. With the amount of noobs mooping this is not feesable I my eyes. The wind helped a lot. Anyways,



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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Eric » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:22 am

tattoogoddess wrote:Lets not forget there was huge 8 hours windstorm and storm storm mid/end week. ALOT of shit got blown to the trash fence. So I think the city got a break this year. With the amount of noobs mooping this is not feesable I my eyes. The wind helped a lot.
I don't understand why you say that other newbies aren't capable of mooping, and that obviously it had to be something else that made the city green. It's only your second year, and you apparently did just fine your first year, why is it so hard for you to believe and give credit to others as new as you that they are just as able to "do it right"? :roll:

By your reasoning, your camp (and mine, and BDC, and all the other green camps) are only green because of that same wind - which apparently didn't effect the rear blocks near 6 where the winds usually hit the city...
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by VultureChow » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:15 am

Dr. Pyro wrote:I'm damn near certain the Prince Phillip Tiki Bar was a wholly owned subsidiary of Gigsville. Again.
Yay!!!! Doc's alive.

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by TomServo » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:52 am

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by tatonka » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:03 am

where I was is yellow :( when we were packing up small blue bits of someones tarp were blowing everywhere . Got all I could see , but more must have blown in :(
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by EspressoDude » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:21 am

Interesting about the blue tarps. We had no blue tarps in our camp ( A /4:20 ) and our whole block ( Black Rock Power Co-op )got green. Extensive mooping before departure and one member of our village returning to the playa to pick up huge generators late in the week. He walked and picked up the minor amount of moop that blew in or surfaced.

However I found a bunch of blue tarp shreds in my vehicle (staff) probably from areas where I was Fire Art Safety Team / helmsman for several burns during the week.

Some blue tarps need to be retired after a few years.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by AntiM » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:23 am

Hushville, evergreen! Every year we get a good portion of newbies, and thanks to our veteran mentor program, we train them well in preMOOP, deMOOP, and MOOPing common areas.

We got pale white/silver tarp bits and pieces blowing in. Those things do suck.

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by trilobyte » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:42 am

As those who've been doing the camping and LNT thing long enough can attest, it's actually harder to stay on top of MOOP and keep the place clean in a windy year. For every molecule that gets blown out of camp, seemingly 3 or more molecules blow in. The easiest year we've ever had for cleanup was 2011, a year with very little in the way of dust storms and wind.

@VultureChow - if you'd read the blog post (or mine), it was explained that a few spots on the map had changed. In the case of Halcyon's (and ePlaya user Pizzamancer's) camp, theirs got fixed once they checked the database/gps coordinates. They were our neighbors (and are friends of mine) and we saw them MOOPing the hell out of that space, and I was with Pizza through nightfall on Monday, that place was significantly cleaner than another neighbor who left a big mess behind and had been flagged as green. I'm glad they were able to check the database and get that fixed.

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Dr. Pyro » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:49 am

VultureChow wrote:
Dr. Pyro wrote:I'm damn near certain the Prince Phillip Tiki Bar was a wholly owned subsidiary of Gigsville. Again.
Yay!!!! Doc's alive.

How'd the surgery go?
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by VultureChow » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:08 am

trilobyte wrote:
@VultureChow - if you'd read the blog post (or mine), it was explained that a few spots on the map had changed. In the case of Halcyon's (and ePlaya user Pizzamancer's) camp, theirs got fixed once they checked the database/gps coordinates. They were our neighbors (and are friends of mine) and we saw them MOOPing the hell out of that space, and I was with Pizza through nightfall on Monday, that place was significantly cleaner than another neighbor who left a big mess behind and had been flagged as green. I'm glad they were able to check the database and get that fixed.
I didn't mean it negatively. He took the criticisms hard. At least I think he did. I can't make it through more than 5 minutes of his webcasts. But just because his schtick isn't my favorite, doesn't make it bad.

In fact the shift makes more sense as it more closely follows the lines of the other camp rather than having a half red, half green camp. Given the utter lack of landmarks left, and the complete reliance on GPS technology, I find the accuracy of the Moop Map amazing. Especially when camps can chime in and say that a yellow or red spot makes complete sense because a grey water container failed or a particular item disintegrated.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by tattoogoddess » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:05 am

I take it you did not see people mooping, people walking by moop on the ground like it was not their problem? I practically had to be a asshole and call group mandatory moop sweeps via mega phone cause many of our virgins wanted to realize how important moop sweeps are. I shouldn't have to do this. Tom and I stayed behind on Monday after everyone else left and did moop sweep on our own. Dug up oil, dug up glitter, picked up food, and wood chips. We had quite a bit to pick up. The few nights I went out in the city I would come back with a whole baggy of moop. Be it feathers, glow sticks, cig butts, gum (ew!) Jeff even picked put cans of the jots. It wasn't this bad last year at all!
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Turtleburp » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:13 am

MyDearFriend wrote:
VultureChow wrote:I know shaming isn't allowed, but I assume gloating is.

GREEN!!!!

Thanks Barbarians who stayed and cleaned up after us all!
Yes and especially (((Knowmad/Mercedes))), who stayed behind at BDC to work with the Restoration Team! 8) 8) 8)
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Elorrum » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:04 am

Eric wrote:- which apparently didn't effect the rear blocks near 6 where the winds usually hit the city...
I find this argument compelling. That area spoke to me of a big gap in the moop message to non-placed campers.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by OregonRed » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:35 am

This is not my story, but a story shared with me by a campmate, Quick & Deadly.

Quick & Deadly:
Hey-- by the by-- Did I regale you with the story: How I *nearly caught* some guy dumping blackwater all over MASH's home turf (where Shew's tent used to be)? No? Welllllll I'd just gotten out of the Raider's shower Tues nite and was walking back to my pickup when I saw some guy walking into the night from our camp pulling a blue cooler on wheels. It seemed really strange since there was almost nothing/nobody left in our neighborhood-- we were pitch black. Only the Raider's bus, my pickup, Shew's rig and Foxy's house were left-- all far back from where A street was located. I thought maybe he'd stolen shit from my truck-- as it was the only unsecured vehicle left in sight (Fox and Shew's stuff was locked down). Nothing seemed to be missing after a sweep with the flashlight-- so I turned the beam onto the playa to discover a LAKE OF BLACKWATER WITH FLOATING ROTTING CHICKEN BITS IN IT all over our *carefully* combed MASH homescape. I dropped my light, sprinted after the dead-if-I-caught-him asswipe and lost his bobbing stupid light in Disorient territory. It was fucking awful. I was apoplectic with bellowing rage (at poor distressed Disorient-residing strangers) until Piney found me nearly incoherent with frustration and ready for homicide weilding a rake. She told me the story about the fools from a few years ago who dumped their grey/blackwater on their space-- and how they talked to the Rangers who filed a report with the Earth Guardians absolving us from bullshit MOOP. SO, I did that. I talked to the Rangers at Berlin, ran into Davin ::grin:: and had a very relieving time filing a report that cleared us from absolute gross fuckery for the afterburn cleanup. Thanks Pinemom and thanks Rangers, especially for giving me gloves to pick that gross rotten shit up with. We got a green-- yay team awesome. We deserved it. BUT if I ever see that guy again Ima dirtnap his ass and make him into longpork burnbarrel smoked fucking jerky for Thanksgiving... Who does that? Who wanders over 1,000 feet-ish from their home camp to dump potentially seriously politically damaging shit on other people's camp space? Food for thought.

Has this kind of thing happened to anybody else? And, seriously, who does that?
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by BBadger » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:51 am

OregonRed wrote:This is not my story, but a story shared with me by a campmate, Quick & Deadly.

Quick & Deadly:
...

BUT if I ever see that guy again Ima dirtnap his ass and make him into longpork burnbarrel smoked fucking jerky for Thanksgiving...
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Nipple » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:21 am

BBadger wrote:
OregonRed wrote:This is not my story, but a story shared with me by a campmate, Quick & Deadly.

Quick & Deadly:
...

BUT if I ever see that guy again Ima dirtnap his ass and make him into longpork burnbarrel smoked fucking jerky for Thanksgiving...
This is why you should always bring a cooler large enough to pack out a body. No trace means no witnesses too!
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by trilobyte » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:23 am

And the day 6 blog post went up over the weekend - check it out!

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Eric » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:47 pm

tattoogoddess wrote:I take it you did not see people mooping, people walking by moop on the ground like it was not their problem?
I did see that - just like I've seen it every single year I've been going. I've also seen (and picked up) beer cans from the Porta-potties and from the playa itself days before Gate opens, so you know they were dumped by someone who "knows better". You cannot assume that all the litterbugs are newbies, however, unless you've interrogated each & every one, because I can assure you they're not. I've been MOOP-nazi in our camp before, and we had a year where there were only 3 virgins, but I was having to yell at the supposed veterans regularly to clean their crap up (we are a much smaller camp now, and this is a major reason) - the virgins were the ones who took LNT seriously.

The thing you're overlooking is that there are more people who do care than those who don't, and the people who care - virgins & veterans both - clean the hell out of the city. Just look at the MOOP-map timeline from 2006-2012 posted a page or two back: in 2006 the city was mostly yellow, people thought they were doing a good job, but there was no reference, as soon as the map came into being LNT became a lot more real, and by 2012 (and this year) you're seeing a map that's mostly green. That's not "the wind" making it green, that a lot of people working their asses off to get it there.

The reason your post annoyed me was because you were more than happy to take credit for your hard work making your camp-site green, but then blowing off everybody elses' hard work in the rest of the city and saying it was only green due to the wind. And that's just wrong.
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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by Simon of the Playa » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:27 pm

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Re: MOOP Map Live 2013

Post by trilobyte » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:48 pm

The day 7 update - where the green streak ends, unfortunately. A rough patch in the outer streets, and a solid yellow band along the inner Esplanade.

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