Bounce/MrFishist Memorial Service (and Rideshare Thread)

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Bounce/MrFishist Memorial Service (and Rideshare Thread)

Post by PurpleKoosh » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:45 pm

As of this writing, the only available details are that the memorial will be the second weekend of January (to facilitate Scott's sister coming out from MN), and will be in the Oakland/Berkeley vicinity. Fishy intends to find a venue with both sufficient parking and access to public transit. I will bump this thread with further information as we get it.

If you plan to attend the service and can offer a ride, PLEASE post a reply with your email address and general location. I will be directing people to this thread from the BMan community on LiveJournal (as well as my personal LJ - several of my friends remember Scott from his other interests), and if they can get in contact with you without having to create an account here to PM for info, so much the better.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:04 pm

His newspaper article in case you haven't seen it.
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Post by tonytohono » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:37 pm

I had no idea Fishy. My condolences.

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Post by Mozy bonz » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:03 pm

If you are so inclined as to make a donation to help pay for Scott's funeral expenses you may do so here:
http://www.medicalresponse.org/

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Post by jinx_sf_burner » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:29 am

Again, Fishy, my deepest condolences.
Mozy bonz wrote:If you are so inclined as to make a donation to help pay for Scott's funeral expenses you may do so here:
http://www.medicalresponse.org/

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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:25 am

I've never done this before.
My wild-ass guess is between one and two hundred attendees. I don't know how to rent a hall or where. I have an email list, but I expect that more people will see the paper when I post the announcement there.
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Post by technopatra » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:18 am

I'll be attending, driving from the Inner Mission. The first three folks to pm me will have seats in my car reserved for them.

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On Heroism

Post by gyre » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:28 am

Heroism is a word I often hear misused. It may be a word without meaning. I have thought about it and decided what I think it might mean.


A deputy arrived at a mobile home fire here and the fire department had not arrived yet. He went inside and saved a child, probably violating his regulations as it's a very dangerous kind of fire. I do not think this was heroic.
Firemen rush into a burning building in New York, in my town, in your town. I do not think this is heroic.
People put themselves at risk to help someone at war or by the side of the road. I do not think this is heroic.
However, when you wake in the cold morning light, safe in your bed, and reflect on what risks you have taken and know you would do it again, I think that is a very different thing. That is heroic.


So sorry about Scott.
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Post by Lassen Forge » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:36 am

Interesting...

Most people who do heroic things do't consider themselves heroes - they're just doing something that needs to be done. A heroic act is no different than any other act, except that the "hero" decided that it was better to act than stand by and watch someone else suffer.

What Scott did that night (and on other, less tragic nights) was truly heroic - had he not acted, the total stranger who was in harm's way with the spun out car would have been the victim. To risk your life - without thought of it - or even to give it as Scott did to come to the aid of another? If that's not heroism, I don't know what is..

Walk up to a Firefighter who is walking out of a burning building carrying a child who would otherwise be dead, and call her or him a hero, and they'll look at you like, "What do you mean???", because they were just doing their job. But tell them that same act was worthless and/or meaningless, and you may end up with a plug wrench upside your head. Ask me how I know.

And brother Scott, who stood out there and took that hit to save another... who always went out there because "it needed to be done"... and just did it... your death was *not* in vain... and we will miss you, and remember you. Always.

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Post by gyre » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:51 am

I hope I wasn't misunderstood.


I agree that at the time someone does these things, they are thinking only about doing something.
My point is that I think the awareness of risk and willingness to assume it for someone else is where the heroism lies.
This includes Scott and anyone else who takes risks for someone else.
I think it takes more courage to look back on something and know you'd do it again.
I don't think getting hurt makes you a hero.
I think showing up in the first place does.
I was just trying to express why.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:28 pm

We have a hall and a date, we just haven't completely sewed up the time.

Rockridge United Methodist Church
(510) 652-4155
303 Hudson, Oakland

On Saturday the 14th. I hope at ~1:00

this is two long or five short blocks from the Rockridge BART station (Parking is difficult in the neighborhood and probably metered on Saturday.) The BART parking lot should be available and of course
people can take BART or the 51 ac Transit bus.

mapquest map

and here's the public transit trip planner
http://www.transitinfo.org/tripplanner/index.asp

Please get ready to get the word out to people so that
when I confirm the time--or if you want before
then--they are ready to go--so post it to any lists
Scott, Bounce would have had friends on.

How can people help?

Is there anyone who would like to do something special
for the ceremony? The Civil Air Patrol cadets are
going to do a flag ceremony and Kate has offered to sing and there
will be teh opportunity for everyone to get up and say
a few words if they wish, but I am working to get a
program together on Friday, so I want to know by
Thursday.

Food--a friend has offered to get a caterer for part
of it, and my neighbors are chipping in, but if any
one wants to bring something it will be graciously
received. Or an urn of coffee or other drinks. One
thing to note--the church stove/oven has a gas leak
and is thus unusable. However, there is a microwave
and it is possible that we could heat it at a friend's
house. Katarina--I'll be sure to bring a couple of
flats of water, but can you give out that message? I
just don't want to commit to talking.

Photos and mementos
I'll be putting up photos and mementos on a
table--including patches for places he worked or
volunteered for. If you have something you want to
loan or donate bring it. If you have electronic
photos you want to send me for inclusion in a DVD that
someone is making to be shone there, please send them
to me. Any words that you may want to add too.
Because of the shortness of time I wont guarantee that
she'll be able to use everything, but we can try.
Also, if you have copies of photos that you want to
keep, or if you can make copies, I'd love that.
Please include some words about the situation so that
I'll know the story behind it.

We need a DVD player and moniter.

I'd like to make a tape, or DVD of the ceremony itself
so that I can send a copy to his parents and other
people who cannot be there.

Help setting up and cleaning up.

pm me if you want to help
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Piping for the Memorial

Post by BlackWatch » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:05 pm

Hello - I've been contacted by Lt Col Dennis Edmondson (ret) of the Royal Canadian Legion (Branch 25) to possibly offer my services to pipe for the memorial. I have sent an email to Lt Col Edmondson to tell him I would be available and would be honoured to do it if the family/organizers accept to have a piper. I am waiting for a confirmation from Lt Col Edmondson.

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Post by theCryptofishist » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:30 am

I'd be happy to. Scott would have liked that.
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Post by tisha2 » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:03 pm

oh, fishy...i heard about Scott but had no idea he was the Mr. Fishist.

i am so sorry!!! what a wonderful man!

i am too far away to make it down this weekend, but you are completely in my thoughts.

is it okay to call, or are you too busy?
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Post by HughMungus » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:46 pm

My condolences. If there's anything I can do to help, PM me. I wish you the best.
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Remember the "rideshare" part of the subject line?

Post by PurpleKoosh » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:45 am

Is anyone coming up from the South Bay on Saturday? My husband will be at work, and taking public transit will take more than 3 hours and $10 one-way. I'll do it if I have to; I'm not going to miss this. But...ouch.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:39 am

I'll chip in for gas for Koosh if that makes a difference.

Information on the web about it.

his obit
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Post by PurpleKoosh » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:27 pm

Looks like I've got my ride there handled; once I'm there, I can fake getting back. ;-)
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:30 pm

I got a print of the picture that I took of the two of you at pride to carry with you...
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Post by PurpleKoosh » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:35 pm

Oh, how fantastic! I'd love to have a copy.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:37 pm

Poor phrasing on my part--I got two copies so you could have one.
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Post by Lassen Forge » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:50 pm

'k...

I just got out of working this weekend, so I'll be there (it was dicey, but the boss relented)... coming from Oakland, so any locals need a ride, let me know.

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Post by PurpleKoosh » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:16 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Poor phrasing on my part--I got two copies so you could have one.
Thank you! :D
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Post by BigCock » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:29 am

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Post by PurpleKoosh » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:13 am

I'll see people there.
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Post by mojo » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:05 pm

Our thoughts and prayers are with you and Bounce today fishy. We love you.
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Post by PurpleKoosh » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:45 pm

The service was beautiful; the time at Fishy's house afterward much too short, but enjoyable. I'm sorry more of you couldn't be there, and grateful so many of you were.

I got a few pictures during the service, and will try and get them uploaded tomorrow.
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Post by Kinetic IV » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:51 pm

PurpleKoosh, how is she holding up? And do you know if she's got people there to be with her? This will be one of the toughest nights to get through so I hope she's not alone.

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