The Bar, Volume #4

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:15 pm

Captain Goddammit wrote:
ygmir wrote:and I'll be there, wishin you two could make it!! one teleporter. is that too much to ask? I could dial you all from the phone booth and whisk you there, and then home again.......I don't see it as unreasonable to want just one teleporter...........
Seems reasonable... at least you don't want sharks with fricken' lasers on their heads... actually you probably could use that... never mind...
no, but I'm going to drive my 80 mpg pickup there, at 80 mph through the mountains, uphill, both ways.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by gyre » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:15 pm

Har har
Anyone that thinks 45 mpg is out there, simply needs more experience tuning engines.
It was an under 2000 pound car with a 1.3 litre engine, more importantly not an american engine.
Short stroke high compression, cammed to peak mileage at high rpm, which is fucking loud, by the way, but no five speed, running on high octane.
Not even interesting on the hypermiler forums.
They crack 60 mpg all the time with heavier cars and bigger engines.
What mileage do you think a 1.3 litre gets anyway?
About 35 mpg in average tune and driven poorly in traffic. Never worse on premium.

You'd think some people have never tuned an engine before.

Spend some time on the hypermile forums and come back with some funny jokes.
They even have charts on vehicle wind drag / direction.

Throwaway comment about spark advance.
Get a grip.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by gyre » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:41 pm

Just annoyed.
Carry on.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Captain Goddammit » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:38 pm

gyre wrote:Just annoyed.
Annoyed at being called out on the carpet? Yeah that probably sucks... but not a single photo of any of the stuff you claim to own or do?

This forum has several guys who really do build cars and we know BS when we hear it.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Ratty » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:46 pm

UnJon. I hope this has been the best one yet!

Elorrum, Where does the train let you off? We are sweating whether there will be a BART strike or not in the morning.

MDF, Last year the Greeters got in free. It was great but out of 10 or so greeters on my shift there were 4 left after 30 minutes. They came, they saw that no one was keeping track, and they bailed. This year they didn't mention any 'free' entrance. That will weed out the deadbeats BUT.....I want to get in FREE. WAAAAAaaaaaaa.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Bin Noddin » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:55 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, UNJON!!!
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Box Burner » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:11 pm

Happy Birthday Unjon!
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Box Burner » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:31 pm

Not taking sides here. But I used to own a 1985 Ford Escort that got 30 mpg around town and 40 mpg on the highway. On a one occasion on a trip to Phoenix and back I caught a tail wind and got 60 mpg both ways. Now I am not an auto mechanic, but I am certain you cannot do that with any kind of tune-up. It was built that way. And it wasn't slow either. I mean, when I was at a busy crossing without any stoplight I never had to worry about whether I could cross traffic, It always had plenty of power.

They could still make cars like that. They just don't. :roll:
Kinda makes me wonder how much presidents bush, shrub and their cronies had to do with itt.


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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:42 pm

really BB? you think only certain Prez's are on the oil take?............
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Box Burner » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Nope. I don't. There are a lot of fingers in that pie!

Bush and shrub are just two of the most obvious ones.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Elorrum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:59 pm

Ratty wrote: Elorrum, Where does the train let you off? We are sweating whether there will be a BART strike or not in the morning.
Ratty, I'm coming from the South Bay, I start in Sunnyvale (it has easy parking) get off at 22nd street Cal train, walk .4 miles to 19th and Minnesota.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by unjonharley » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:59 pm

I had a 85 Escort.. It drove and rode like a box of rocks.. Sold it after a week of people pointing and laughing..

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Box Burner » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:14 pm

I don't doubt it. There appears to have been several models with quite different performance ratings.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by name redacted » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:52 pm

Chevrolet's Sprint was a 3 cylinder normally aspirated econobox that routinely saw 35 mpg. And that was 80's technology.

Premium fuel is blended with ethanol (among other things) to achieve higher octane. Premium fuel with ethanol has less energy than unblended fuel. So the net result from fuel blended with ethanol is less MPG. Premium fuel does not give a noticeable increase in mileage despite what anyone thinks or says.

Every oil company uses different ratios of various chemicals to make their premium grade fuel. You will actually get different mileage results between manufacturers, than between one manufacturers regular/premium blends.

I got the best performance out of my spec miata racecar with Sunoco 87 octane pump swill, but my 409 big block Impala needs a minimum of 100 octane fuel. VP-C12 was ideal because it came in 100/110 octane, and had lead. But lead is no longer available in any fuel, race or otherwise, in the US.

When I raced GP motorcycles, it was basically an open class. Which meant that other than displacement, pretty much anything was allowed. So I experimented with many fuels. Some cost upward of $20 a gallon, and this was in 2003. VP-C12 was the best fuel for the dollar, at about $6.50/gallon. We would also blend some proplyene oxide to further increase its potential, but not being a chemist, I was reluctant to really fuck around with it. Plus it was $60 a gallon.

I had a supercharged Suzuki GSX-R with a roots type blower, that was run at a1:1 ratio. An NHRA guy I knew had some nitro benzyne he ran in his drag car. I added some to my fuel, and jesus christ, the difference was amazing. But god that shit is toxic as hell...
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by name redacted » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Ok, I really need a life..
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Savannah » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:56 pm

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Ratty » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:37 pm

Hey! They could hear my whining all the way in SF. I just got an email about the decompression. Yeah! I DO get in free. I'm sure my rolling backpack of beer won't be an issue. (If it is, the gate peeps can have a beer party). I love Decom. I'll 'greet' on skates this year. I could wear my tall wig too. Then I even scare myself. See you guys there I hope.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Aurelia » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:09 am

Good Morning All !

Although I will be there very early, I attempt to go home early also.
Unless I see Yggy, Trilo, Marty ,and anyone does not come on time to volunteer.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by ygmir » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:38 am

*strolls in, starts ECM*
well, off to start patrolling at Sac decom today. I'll be there till Sunday morning, then to S.F. decom.
I hope I get to see folks at both!! I've not been to the Sac one, sounds like a good one, though.

Someone may have to take over cartoon duty this weekend...........
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:18 am

ygmir wrote:*strolls in, starts ECM*
well, off to start patrolling at Sac decom today. I'll be there till Sunday morning, then to S.F. decom.
I hope I get to see folks at both!! I've not been to the Sac one, sounds like a good one, though.

Someone may have to take over cartoon duty this weekend...........



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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Roberto Dobbisano » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:20 am

c'mon, cheer up, i made you something to burn this weekend...


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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by trilobyte » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:55 am

Elorrum, don't you mean blocks? The 22nd street station is awfully close.

Hooray (sorta) for those coming from the East Bay. Transit negotiator types agreed to a 72 hour extension, so the BART trains will keep going til Sunday night at midnight. Decom only runs til 10 (though I think one stage area goes to 11), so that should mean mass transit is a viable option for people on that side of the bay.

Happy Friday, everybody!

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Elorrum » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:21 pm

Not four, google said (point) .4 miles, and it looks like about 4 or 5 blocks. a couple over, a couple up. Not far at all. but map reading for the city has always gotten me into trouble when hills are involved.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Ratty » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:27 pm

What on earth made me think that you were coming on Amtrak? Anyway, glad you're coming.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by FIGJAM » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:09 am

Morning all.

Toon time! 8)

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Ratty » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:57 am

Thanks Figjam. That went great with my morning coffee.
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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by OregonRed » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:47 am

I see your Betty Boop and raise you a Daffy Duck.

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by Ratty » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:42 am

I'll see that Daffy and raise you a Daffy in DRAG in an MV.




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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by trilobyte » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:22 pm

It's very nearly last call for Volume #4...

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Re: The Bar, Volume #4

Post by VultureChow » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:50 pm

Time enough for one last drink.

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