Birgin Camp 2014

[Divreon]

There's definitely enough interest from Virgins on this project, so we'll be creating a forum in the next few weeks.

I understand that any plans will go belly up depending on ticket availability later, but I know I'm planning on trying for the Holiday sale, so that I can stop worrying about that as soon as possible.

[Simon of the Playa]

dont worry, there will still be plenty to worry about.

[FossaFerox]

Just to warn you, holiday sale tickets are EXPENSIVE. They were 170% the normal ticket price last year.

[Divreon]

I'm doing the smart thing and hopefully having someone else pay for it, even if I do need to pay for it, I've paid more for tickets to conventions in the past(And then had to still buy individual event tickets once there to do almost anything), the holiday sale price isn't all that crazy as far as large conventions go. That' and if I do get tickets then, it means others who aren't in position to buy them will be able to get low price tickets. It's like getting myself a gift, and giving one at the same time.

[Ratty]

Divreon, Thank you for being so generous. Up until last year the tickets were sold in different amounts and the idea was exactly what you are talking about. (Buy the most expensive one you can afford.) Most people rushed to get the cheap ones even though the event didn't sell out and they could afford more. I appreciate your big heartedness. Thank you.

I believe the Holiday tickets were too expensive last year. Maybe they'll be less.

[theCryptofishist]

Holiday tickets have to be expensive, otherwise people will buy them to be sure of getting a spot. Well, people still will, but you want to set the price point high enough that there wont be a rush to buy them. They seemed to get it right last year.

And, once regular tickets go on sale, you cannot get someone else to pay that $200 surcharge. Eat that if you're selling your ticket.

[FIGJAM]

I call dibs on Devreons regular priced ticket, so all you fucko's just backoff!

[Savannah]

Holiday tickets have to be expensive, otherwise people will buy them to be sure of getting a spot. Well, people still will, but you want to set the price point high enough that there wont be a rush to buy them. They seemed to get it right last year.

And, once regular tickets go on sale, you cannot get someone else to pay that $200 surcharge. Eat that if you're selling your ticket.

Yeah--no one should buy a holiday ticket with the thought that they can resell it for original cost. We saw a lot of holiday tickets selling for regular sale prices this year.

They really are for people who wanna gift them for the holidays, or have a very, very good chance of attending and/or don't mind paying a little more.

[Divreon]

For anyone who's interested Camp Birgin(Burgin? BMVirgin? Virgin Camp?) is starting up with a forum. It might be slow at the moment, but post up any ideas and questions and watch for it to pick up in activity after the first of next year.

http://birgincamp.boards.net/

This is a free forum, so forgive any ads there, we can pay to remove them if they get bad.

[trilobyte]

I'm renaming the thread to match the camp name. Good luck with your prep and planning!

[Divreon]

Thanks Trilo, This will make it a lot easier for people to find us.

[tattoogoddess]

Suggestions for a theme camp "owner" mayor or whatever you want to call it. DO NOT MAKE A THEME CAMP YOUR FIRST YEAR, DON'T EVEN DO IT YOIR SECOND YEAR.
Ok why? You will need to be at home to host your camp. You will miss out on soooooooo much of the burn. Plus not only that, the logistics of planning even a camp under 50 people is a fucking nightmare! Trust me. I planned our whole camp last year. The logistics are insanity. Don't do it.

[AntiM]

Sounds like they're doing more of a village. Being an organizer does take up time and money, but if they aren't doing scheduled events or looking for placement, having no dues and requiring each member to bring their own stuff, then having a camp isn't so bad. The other stag/orphan camps do just fine.

[GreyCoyote]

Agreed, AntiM. And perhaps the real message here should be "do what you want, knowing it might not work".

Dont let others experiences sour yours. If you have food, water and shade, you are doing it right!

[Divreon]

With ticket information now available, Birgin camp will become a solid reality when the first of us buys their ticket. From there, it's just a matter of slow and steady prep until the burn.

[AntiM]

Whoot!

[Mia]

Divreon, my idea for shade is a pitch tent out of two tarps, my tent is 9x8 so I figure that will work well but let's not forget i'm a virgin too (fantastic!) so I could end up in the med tent. As for drama, it's been my experience that you put a few hens in the same space and there's going to be drama.

[Divreon]

Yeah, but I'm going to do the foolish thing and hope that we are all responsible adults...

Yes, I know I'm doomed.

[Mia]

With how every post a newb posts on here is scrutinized , I have to wonder if a whole camp of newbs will just become the "leper colony".

[FIGJAM]

Once you're there nobody will care!

[trilobyte]

If you look closely, newbie posts aren't the only ones scrutinized. You may care to check out this article on snark.

I doubt that you'd be treated as a leper colony, any more than any of the others who've done similar in the past (though the camps I've heard of had an actual art theme, and didn't treat their inexperience as the camp's theme). Or any of the orphan camps... or any other camp for that matter.

[Divreon]

Birgin Camp Draws closer, Pre-sale registration is open, and I for one am registered.

[Divreon]

Ticket purchased, confirmation in hand.

So now, even if it turns out Birgin camp is a camp of one, it will happen.

[Divreon]

With tickets in hand, Birgin camp is making plans over on our forums. Stop on by, and say hello if you'd like to join.

[Hope-a-Lope]

One does not simply drive a 5-person sedan with 2+ people and all their supplies into BRC...

In 2013 I did, 4 people plus gear/food/water, and I still have no idea how we defied the rules of physics to make it happen.

[theCryptofishist]

Pocket universe, probably.

[AntiM]

Four Door Vehicle of Holding.

[Elorrum]

clown car.

[Monkeystyle]

It was bigger on the inside.

[scruffyboy]

Hey Divreon,
You've been getting a LOT of really good suggestions for your camp. I've been going since 96 and worked DPW for 4 years so I'll throw in my 2 cents worth;
Probably THE single most important thing for everyone attending to do is to READ AND HEED THE SURVIVAL GUIDE! They are not kidding one damn bit about what conditions may be like out there.
Useful Tips and Suggestions are also to be found on the site. Some may sound silly but a lot of them are time-tested and can make the difference between a miserable experience and a great time.

Here are a few more esoteric suggestions;

1) Leave your expectations at home, they only limit you

2) Go with an open mind, an open heart and willing hands, say "hi" to your neighbors and when you can, offer to help out.

3) Sensory overload is the rule not the exception. Take the time to see what's in front of you. Don't go chasing after every loud noise or blinky thingie you encounter you'll just wear yourself out!

4) S L O W D O W N! Be sure to take care of yourself, you're never going to see everything anyway so don't even try. Besides there's likely to be plenty going on right in your "neighborhood."

5) Have an "Exit" plan in mind. If things aren't going well and you want to leave early? That's O.K. I usually wait 24 hours before executing to see if things turn around for me.