WARNING TO ALL BM FLYERS

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:13 pm

I love how the terrorist is claiming victory.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:55 am

Well the prop is bent and the flaps were down... looks like bad landing but if so I'm surprised the plane isn't more messed up.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:31 am

I doubt you have to actually make a mistake with the wind changes out there sometimes.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:38 am

Bob wrote:Yeah, right. Buhrnurz are the first fucking people I want to consult on aircraft safety.

I call bullshit. Zona flies in out there and I'd bet you wouldn't hesitate to consult with him on any aircraft safety questions.

Moving past that aspect... considering the number of flight operations out there and the minimal number of reported screwups, it seems like BRC airport pilots would be good resources to consult. A couple of interesting incidents shouldn't be used to stereotype the whole group!

( I wish someone had pix of the Bonanza that looked like it was a placed art exhibit...I forget now what happened on the landing but the end result was just cool to look at out there in the walk-in camping area)

phil · Post by **phil** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:57 am

Is this a Bonanza?

BitterDan · Post by **BitterDan** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:22 pm

Don't you need mountain flying permits to fly to BRC Airport? And don't you need specialized training to get those permits?

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:29 pm

phil wrote:Is this a Bonanza?

Used to be a Bonanza.

Kinetik V · Post by **Kinetik V** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:20 pm

That's the Bonanza I was thinking of, thanks!

No you don't need any "mountain permits" to fly in up there but considering it's at almost 4000ft of elevation surrounded by mountain ranges and with interesting winds..well I'm no pilot but I don't think it would be considered a normal place to fly into.....

Silverwheel · Post by **Silverwheel** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:37 pm

BitterDan wrote:Don't you need mountain flying permits to fly to BRC Airport? And don't you need specialized training to get those permits?

Nope. There's no such animal in the FAR's* as a "mountain flying permit." As to specialised training, it would be a very good idea and nearly all CFI's** I've ever known provided some. I fly helicopters myself until I quit for being a full-time artist and the Sectional chart I looked at for the BRC area showed a maximum elevation of around 9,000 feet for that sector - that's high enough that it should not be attempted by those without experience at those altitudes.

Ah, the Bonanza! The Fork-Tailed Doctor Killer, as we used to call them!

Cheers,
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*Federal Aviation Regulations
**Certificated Flight Instructor

Post by **AntiM** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:15 pm

http://www.burningman.com/on_the_playa/ ... lying.html

ZaphodBurner · Post by **ZaphodBurner** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:10 pm

Bob wrote:Yeah, right. Buhrnurz are the first fucking people I want to consult on aircraft safety.

Wow. Ever been in a serious car accident?

I guess it doesn't matter. Most people haven't either, but since some people have, I guess we could say "Yeah, right, you're the first fucking person we want to consult on safety."

-zb
CP-ASEL-IA

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:34 pm

You mean I'm not a rail safety expert?

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:21 am

theCryptofishist wrote:You mean I'm not a rail safety expert?

It seems to me you would qualify.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:22 am

phil wrote:Is this a Bonanza?

This is called an involuntary conversion.

And I don't like it that my near collision at LAX is called a 'near miss'.
I'm not entirely comfortable with referring to landing as a 'FINAL APPROACH' either.

WARNING TO ALL BM FLYERS

Near Hit?