2017 Arrival Update Sources

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2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby some seeing eye » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:45 pm

Mods, move as you like

It appears that BMIR online is providing inbound information. So far random cycles. YMMV.
And https://twitter.com/bmantraffic has info.

You can gather their info and adapt when you can get Internet/mobile phone connections inbound.

Suggest other platform hashtags/search?
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby FIGJAM » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:28 pm

Just like I said, the last six years I've been from the end of gate line to parked in camp in an hour to an hour and a half.

Just got to keep to the schedule.

Add an hour for each extra person in the car!!! :lol:
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:38 pm

Road conditions, construction, accidents & closures. http://www.nvroads.com/511-home

So far, only one accident shown.
NE of South Lake Tahoe, on NV 207 between US 50 and NV206/NV88.
Delays both ways.

Highway cams look good all around, with the odd colourful vehicle with tons of crap on its roof. Some appear to be decorated with bicycles...
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:45 pm

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:50 pm

First look at some intake data.
From Burning Man Traffic:
time from Wadsworth to Gate Road
time (waiting) on Gate Road

2017 Gate times - Sun 3pm.png
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:39 pm

See that half hour sweet spot right at opening?

That is right after they stop sending people to the staging area so there normally is little to no line.

Most people can't keep to that tight of schedule, so it's been the same for me for the last 6 years.

Last year when I got to apex, I was 2nd in line, but we had to go to will call for my nieces LI ticket.

Handicapped parking was closest to gate road and the line out of will call had us blocked.

I explained to a guy in line that my nieces vehicle had to stay with me and he let us in line.

Parked in camp by about 12:30. 8)
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:33 pm

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:48 am

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:10 am

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:20 am

For those looking when to head out to the playa, for eight hours Burning Man Traffic (link in 1st post above) has been reporting times:
Wadsworth to Gate Road, two hours or under, and
Gate Road wait is 30 minutes or under.
Last was 1:43 and 15 minutes.
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:06 am

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Token » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:23 am

Fruck Me. Canoe has some mad ninja skills.

Far out man! Far out.

This all reinforces my decades long policy of only getting to playa between midnight and dawn. If I ever go again that is.

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:20 pm

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:53 pm

Burning Man Traffic‏ @bmantraffic Monday ~4:14pm

The Gate road is causing white out due to participants speeding down Gate Road! The Gate crew is evaluating traffic due to safety concerns.

Here's an example... viewtopic.php?f=286&t=82511
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:13 pm

Burning Man Traffic‏ @bmantraffic 7pm update
White outs cleared now that incoming cars comply with the speed limit. Travel times: Wadsworth to Gate Road 1:50. Gate Wait 15 minutes.


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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:06 pm

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:46 am

Another gap in data at midnight.

The 6 am report was:
Burning Man Traffic‏ @bmantraffic
Expected road closure on CR34 at 7:00 AM to repair potholes between Gerlach and Gate Road. The road will be closed for 45 minutes.


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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:50 pm

data is sparse
they didn't publish times during so we don't know the effect of the pophole repair

latest times are good


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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:06 pm

Tuesday 6 pm
some delays Gate/Gate Road due to "intermittent closures due to weather affecting visibility"

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:10 pm

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Canoe » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:20 am

And the last update on Burning Man Traffic was Tuesday 11 pm.
1:31 Wadsworth to Gate Road and no Wait on Gate Road.

Pretty amazing year. Worst Case under 7 hours, most of it under 5 hours and Monday on ~under 2 1/2 hours with much of that under 2 hours!

Too bad we don't have Will-Call wait times to put on that chart too.

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Traveller in Time » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:38 am

Sobriety check
Should be only informative as burners do not drink and drive
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Traveller in Time » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:05 pm

Highway 445 wildfire ?
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Traveller in Time » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:56 pm

445 and 447 wildfires?

447 closed both directions
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Token » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:07 pm

Yes, Big Ass MF Wildfire.

Incident Name: Tohakum 2
FIRE STATUS:
Uncontained
CURRENT ACREAGE:
30,000.00 acres
FIRE DISCOVERY DATE/TIME:
8/29/2017, 7:28 PM

I'm guessing ok them thunderstorms gone done it.

If prevailing winds hold, it will hit 447.

Folk could get their dream of a multi-week Burning Man.

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Token » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:16 pm

Traveller in Time wrote:445 and 447 wildfires?

447 closed both directions


TiT, any mention of this on BMIR?

Anywayz, here is the Reno Gazette link

http://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts/burn ... 619320001/

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby some seeing eye » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:29 pm

Each fire is different.

Screenshot from http://disasterresponse.maps.arcgis.com ... f75162b3f4

US Wildfire Activity Public InformationMap

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It's the same data as the NFIC.

Each state has an updated highway closure map. Good to check outbound at a food/drink/rest stop when you can get a good connection.

(There is not a lot of combustible material there, they understand it's an important route on the choco taco and commissary trail, so doubt it will be burning long)
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Token » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:39 pm

Yep, posted Arcgis snaps yonder:

viewtopic.php?p=1145224#p1145224

They are all nice and pretty on a phone.

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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Traveller in Time » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:43 am

Another report Wildfire NV-447 road closure between Nixon & Empire.

My reports without link come from BMIR

As is: the seemingly alternative 'dirt roads' from and to the South are either damaged or unreliable
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Re: 2017 Arrival Update Sources

Postby Traveller in Time » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:16 am

BMIR reports the highway 447 is completely clear. (no blockage ?)
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