2015 Moop Map

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2015 Moop Map

Post by Popeye » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:24 pm

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Ano » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:01 pm

Plug 'n Play address that some people know of was all red. What a surprise.

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Jackass » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:43 pm

Ano wrote:Plug 'n Play address that some people know of was all red. What a surprise.
Hey, those guys paid good $ not to have to give a shit. Fair and square.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by some seeing eye » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:45 pm

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Post by bigbluedoggy » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:13 am

Is there a higher res version available yet where you can actually read the theme camp names? Just my own morbid curiosity.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Ratty » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:50 pm

It hurts my heart to see the moop map. Not because of anything to do with LNT. It is glaringly evident that the Org. wants everyone to join a camp. Each year they dedicate more space to placed camps and push individual campers farther out. It's a shame.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by caffeineslinger » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:45 pm

bigbluedoggy wrote:Is there a higher res version available yet where you can actually read the theme camp names? Just my own morbid curiosity.
Click on the map and a larger one comes up.

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Post by Elderberry » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:34 pm

Ratty wrote:It hurts my heart to see the moop map. Not because of anything to do with LNT. It is glaringly evident that the Org. wants everyone to join a camp. Each year they dedicate more space to placed camps and push individual campers farther out. It's a shame.
I'm not sure whether more space is being allocated for theme camps because the BMORG wants everyone to join one, or if it's because more theme camps are forming and applying for placement? My thinking at this point in time is that it's the latter reason.

And, with the ticket shortage, having a well thought out theme camp with lots of open activities is good for both BMORG and the people that are members of the camp, as it helps with getting tickets.

And it would then follow that theme camps would be placed closer in as it's the activity of the theme camp that provides most of the activities and things to see. Of course, I could be wrong, but that's just how it appears to me.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by bigbluedoggy » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 pm

caffeineslinger wrote:
bigbluedoggy wrote:Is there a higher res version available yet where you can actually read the theme camp names? Just my own morbid curiosity.
Click on the map and a larger one comes up.
Yes indeed, but most of the camp names are still illegible.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by BBadger » Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:59 pm

They're illegible to avoid camp shaming by zealots.
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Post by Elderberry » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:42 pm

BBadger wrote:They're illegible to avoid camp shaming by zealots.
Why else post the map then?
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Popeye » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:42 pm

bigbluedoggy wrote:
caffeineslinger wrote:
bigbluedoggy wrote:Is there a higher res version available yet where you can actually read the theme camp names? Just my own morbid curiosity.
Click on the map and a larger one comes up.
Yes indeed, but most of the camp names are still illegible.
From just below the map:
Click to see it larger, but not full size, because we’re not finished with it yet!
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by CyanEssence » Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:13 am

Is there a higher res version available yet where you can actually read the theme camp names? Just my own morbid curiosity.

Click on the map and a larger one comes up.

Yes indeed, but most of the camp names are still illegible.

From just below the map:
Click to see it larger, but not full size, because we’re not finished with it yet!
Ha, I was wondering the same thing, and also missed the fine print.

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by BBadger » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:08 am

Elderberry wrote:
BBadger wrote:They're illegible to avoid camp shaming by zealots.
Why else post the map then?
To give your camp-mates high-fives or "oh shit, that yellow (red) spot is us!"
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Sic Pup » Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:15 am

Day two : http://blog.burningman.com/2015/09/tenp ... -buzzkill/

Not pretty.

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by AlexMN1984 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:57 am

Day 3 is out:
http://blog.burningman.com/2015/09/tenp ... ing-piano/

The strip along esplanade from 10 to 9 is interesting. Red closest to the street, then yellow, then green in the "private" parts of those camps. I'm wondering if parts of that is because by the end of the week the boundary between Esplanade and the camps is pretty fudged, and it's hard for the people camping there to know what is their responsibility and what is the "public street"?
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Sham » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:01 pm

We are not looking very good this year. In past years, it was rare to see a yellow or God forbid a red splotch.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by AlexMN1984 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:04 pm

Here's the final 2014 map for reference:
http://blog.burningman.com/2014/10/envi ... ise-again/

What the heck happened on Esplanade this year? I think Opulent Temple has a pretty good case to get their placement back next year, assuming they want to come back. :)

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Ano » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:43 pm

As disappointing as the MOOP map looks so far, I just want to state that I am so utterly un-surprised that, so far, every single PnP/turnkey camp that I've known about has gotten yellow or red, entirely. Not a single green PnP/Turnkey that I know of, as of yet. I could have missed one, but I have a pretty exhaustive list I think.

Tee-hee. They sure do well at keeping up with the principals.

And seriously - if you have a professional cleanup crew and nearly the entire camp is RVs or nicer set-ups, how do you get yellow or red? Come on...

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by remi » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:48 pm

This is a fuckin' disgrace so far on the 9 side. I know our camp did a "over and above" job on our entire camp, including the roadway adjacent to our camp... which is the minimum any camp should do. The fact that I'm saying this like it's something to brag about is fuckin' Ludacris!

The red line on the inside it the roadway.. these camps seem to think they're mooping assignment ends at their property boundary, which is not the case. And what fuckin plug and play camp was at the outer edge of 715? My regional just overtook burning man as my favorite festival.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Jackass » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:50 pm

This is the worst that my camp has ever done. We swept around through the dunes with our feet, but there had to be stuff buried in there. In some places we had 8-12" of fluffy, soft powder over the hardened playa surface. A landscape rake would have done wonders.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Ano » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:15 pm

Rakes really do bring up a ton of stuff you never knew existed. We rake our camp after doing our line sweeps and it always turns up tons of tiny things, like ziptie bits or plastic wrapping. Wish we had a magnetic rake, though...

Our camp did some custom stakes this year. Turns out, when we hit them with a hammer, tons of tiny steel shavings would flake off that we didn't notice while we played with them in dirt and concrete, but tiny black shavings were glaringly obvious on tan playa. We ended up taking home a few bags worth of playa this year. A magnetic rake would have been great, I think.

I'm really nervous because after four years of green I fear I might get my first yellow due to those stakes.

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Lonesomebri » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:23 pm

Fortunately this bit of way out of place showed up late-Monday but left without me having to resort to a rake.
He came up, dropped his sarong, put his arm around me...
But I checked my watch and going by my calendar the event had ended.
I offered him water and loaded up the rest of the truck while he sat and drew circles in the dust.
He wandered off before I left. But this might explain if there is a yellow spot in my camp where he sat.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Jackass » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:36 pm

By the looks of that corduroy, you possessed a landscape rake. Doing it right! Will add my rake to the pile next year...

It's all dust under the trailer at this point. Don't cry over blown dust.
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Post by Lonesomebri » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:57 pm

Jackass wrote:By the looks of that corduroy, you possessed a landscape rake. Doing it right! Will add my rake to the pile next year...
Corn up to your shoulders by July!!!!
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Roundabout » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:59 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:I bought a plastic beach rake for myself though that wasn't a real good match for some of the little dunes and rough patches, so I will be upgrading in the future.
Same story for our camp. We worked really, really hard for hours on end raking every square foot of our camp. Everything looked extremely de-mooped when we left, yet we still ended up with a small red blotch (the rest was green). I think that the extra wind and resulting dust piles made it more difficult to find moop. Wind patterns after we left must have uncovered something buried in the dust or blown someone else's moop onto our site. Next year we will bring hard rakes and a magnet rake.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Sham » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:23 pm

In 2013, the solid RED mark at 5:30 and Esplanade was the BLM. The same guys who were giving tickets for dribbling water on the playa.
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by Dr. Pyro » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:15 am

Just another reason not to trust the government.

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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by danibel » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:26 pm

To those that think inside camp lines are all they are responsible for, fuck you. I moop the entire road from my camp to across the street. I also pick up on every walk to the portos and back. I have pulled tent stakes and rebar from other camps around us that I have come upon. This year a campmate took SOMEONE else's PEE jar to the portos and emptied them AND took the jars home to trash!

I am not saying esplanade camps didn't try!!! I am just saying EVERYONE should do more than their own camp. In fact I am quite certain the survival guide calls out for participants to moop public areas for a few hours.

This year we had a couple of virgins from New Mexico that camped in a vacant spot next to us, that apparently missed the memo on demooping. Campmates and I spent at least an hour picking up wilted lettuce and sequins left in the dunes of their camp. Glad we did that! Our area of the block is green green green!
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Re: 2015 Moop Map

Post by tatonka » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:05 pm

been only going for 3 years , but every year the most moop that flys thru camp is small piece's of blue tarp .
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