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FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by some seeing eye » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:15 am

Someone has too large a budget. And they like the scenery.
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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:08 am

Yeah, but it's pretty much designed to be an FBI trap--exactly what they look for.
(and by "designed" I don't mean that some humans sat down and asked... hm... how can we trap the FBI?)
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Post by Doctor VonBacon » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:02 am

Nothing new here. FBI will send a team to any large-scale event. They've been doing it for years. They don't ever do much, which is why the "locals" refer to them as "Famous, But Incompetent." I think they're just there so if there is some sort of incident the FBI Director can say "we were there."

Probably dates back to the days when J. Edgar wanted his dirty little hands in everyone else's business.
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Post by AntiM » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:10 pm

I kinda hope they wore fabulous costumes on the tax payer's dime. Unreasonable and unrealistic, but appealing in a weird way.

But then Men in Black costumes would have also rocked.

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Post by forty_eight » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:19 pm

i like how crowd control is one of the perceived threats

like somehow people were going to rush the vendors and steal all their shit

but there is nothing to steal

everyone is giving their shit away

imagine their disappointment, lol

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Post by big baby jesus » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:23 pm

Von Bacon called it. I've worked events for years. The same agencies are at Suoer Bowls, College Bowl games, World Cup matches, Final Four... Any big event draws a similar law enforcement presence. This is a non-issue. If we want them to go away, just make the event smaller
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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by Sham » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:30 pm

I went to a tough guy biker funeral years ago and the FBI was swarming with unmarked cars and lots of binoculars. Not quite sure what they were looking for as the guest of honor was dead.

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Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:55 pm

I wonder if any stopped by to waste time and the taxpayers money checking up on the BRCCP...
I'm guessing it would have been on Tuesday when the Grilled Cheese was being given away.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:59 pm

comrade, it is to be expected...


jesus h. jumping edgar j hoover in a little red dress, of course they are there...duh.


between the Princesses of Hollywood and the goddamn Russians, not to mention the all the security clearance DotCommies, there is more people to monitor at Burning Man than a Barrel full of Ted Kaczynski Monkeys.

every intelligence agency worth it's salt has a fucking art car, by golly.


and why do you think ATT was so hot to trot to provide coverage?


i digress...

and yeah, BTW, THEY've been there FOREVER.............some may have even gone native...........so, we should get the fuck over it.
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Post by ygmir » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:17 pm

Simon of the Playa wrote:comrade, it is to be expected...


jesus h. jumping edgar j hoover in a little red dress, of course they are there...duh.


between the Princesses of Hollywood and the goddamn Russians, not to mention the all the security clearance DotCommies, there is more people to monitor at Burning Man than a Barrel full of Ted Kaczynski Monkeys.

every intelligence agency worth it's salt has a fucking art car, by golly.


and why do you think ATT was so hot to trot to provide coverage?


i digress...

and yeah, BTW, THEY've been there FOREVER.............some may have even gone native...........so, we should get the fuck over it.
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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by maladroit » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:18 pm

There were a lot of helicopters overhead this year!

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Post by Jackass » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:39 pm

maladroit wrote:There were a lot of helicopters overhead this year!
The same one with dual props (military?) circled the city 5-6 times on one afternoon, I sleep with one eye open.
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Post by Sham » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:46 pm

It appears that we have become the training ground for every government agency that issues guns.

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Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:06 pm

And what about the military jet that buzzed the playa early in the week...

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Post by Savannah » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:11 pm

Sham wrote:I went to a tough guy biker funeral years ago and the FBI was swarming with unmarked cars and lots of binoculars. Not quite sure what they were looking for as the guest of honor was dead.
Probably a specific person they thought might pay his respects . . .
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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by Canoe » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:16 pm

Lonesomebri wrote:And what about the military jet that buzzed the playa early in the week...
ah come on
If I had a $30m+ piece of hardware strapped to my ass I'd be wanting to fly over and make sure everyone was safe take a peek.
It's amazing we see so few.
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Post by some seeing eye » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:36 pm

I'm trying to get someone interested in bringing an air traffic control radar for "training purposes only", doing something useful, rather than useless and annoying. Interesting standard practice even with unlimited budgets is to do exactly what the BM airport Unicom does. We have some interesting discussions on projecting infrastructure into nothingness to meet real needs, rather than the opposite.
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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by Bless » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:48 pm

Jackass wrote:
maladroit wrote:There were a lot of helicopters overhead this year!
The same one with dual props (military?) circled the city 5-6 times on one afternoon, I sleep with one eye open.
I saw it circling, too. It looked like a Chinook.
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Post by Savannah » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:02 pm

Bless wrote:
Jackass wrote:
maladroit wrote:There were a lot of helicopters overhead this year!
The same one with dual props (military?) circled the city 5-6 times on one afternoon, I sleep with one eye open.
I saw it circling, too. It looked like a Chinook.
I believe it was.
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Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:20 pm

Yeah, at first I thought the choppy noise was just the sound-camps getting lazy with the beats, but then I saw the big boxy twin rotor helicopter in the evening haze over on the 10'oclock side.

I'm thinking if the BLM was contracting for Choco Tacos, can you imagine what frozen treats the G-Men are stocking their freezers with that we never even heard of?
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Post by some seeing eye » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:28 pm

The Black Rock Intergalactic Spaceport is only open daylight, excepting medical emergency. So that leaves plenty of opportunities for black helicopters! :wink: And lighted runways would go swimmingly with radar air traffic control.
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Post by maladroit » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:47 pm

Anyone want to land a plane on a figure-8 shaped runway lighted with flaming unicorn horns (reminiscent of a saber arch, no less)?

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:50 am

you can all just stop speculating.


they were delivering my luggage from DFW because american airlines cant get their shit together.



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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by AntiM » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:51 am

Canoe wrote:
Lonesomebri wrote:And what about the military jet that buzzed the playa early in the week...
ah come on
If I had a $30m+ piece of hardware strapped to my ass I'd be wanting to fly over and make sure everyone was safe take a peek.
It's amazing we see so few.
I've said it before, Fallon NAS is just spittin' distance away, and our event is off limits to them. They do exercises all the time, no need to wonder why the flyboys make a flight plan which, oh golly, goes over the playa. Humans being curious humans, just with access to high tech. Fuckin' Navy pilots love them some boobies. Even at supersonic speeds (but really, they buzz the playa when empty too, it is a great training area).

The helicopter was a nice touch. Maybe some reservists have caught on and do their active training over labor day now.

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Post by Simon of the Playa » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:01 am

f-18 super hornet i believe, so yeah, fallon.
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Post by Lonesomebri » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:17 am

AntiM wrote:
Canoe wrote:
Lonesomebri wrote:And what about the military jet that buzzed the playa early in the week...
ah come on. If I had a $30m+ piece of hardware strapped to my ass I'd be wanting to fly over and make sure everyone was safe take a peek.
It's amazing we see so few.
've said it before, Fallon NAS is just spittin' distance away, and our event is off limits to them. They do exercises all the time, no need to wonder why the flyboys make a flight plan which, oh golly, goes over the playa. Humans being curious humans, just with access to high tech. Fuckin' Navy pilots love them some boobies. Even at supersonic speeds (but really, they buzz the playa when empty too, it is a great training area).
The helicopter was a nice touch. Maybe some reservists have caught on and do their active training over labor day now.
Yeah, but since I'm paying for it, maybe I can at least complain. I don't wonder, or condone, or excuse......
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Re: FBI on Playa 2010 FOIA Reveals

Post by Doctor VonBacon » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:21 am

As a taxpayer, I DEMAND a bombing run on amateur DJs.
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