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Re: Fuck!

Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:34 pm

tamarakay wrote:And it all becomes fucking clear. Just got an email that as part of the new review process of supervisors and managers, us minions get to rate their performance as to knowledge of job, responsiveness to stated needs, communication, etc.
Try not to get all fucking worked up over that. Nobody really reads those things anymore. Middle management just does this to appease the upper management, and it's all out of some book on how to manage. They're just checking an item off their "Manage Employees" list. I have never seen anyone fired over one of these pathetic reports.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by wh..sh » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:06 pm

tamarakay wrote:And it all becomes fucking clear. Just got an email that as part of the new review process of supervisors and managers, us minions get to rate their performance as to knowledge of job, responsiveness to stated needs, communication, etc.
360 degree feedbacks are fairly common these days in corporate world. Just a tactic to keep middle management in line. It's hardly effective.
Usually managers are allowed to pick the employees who would provide them 360 degree feedback. No points for guessing that these are manager's favorites.
I have always stayed away from manager bashing or complaints during these reviews. IMHO, only makes things worse.
You can make an attempt at constructive feedbacks using nice, fancy, rosy words :)
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Ugly Dougly » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:12 pm

Self-assessment forms are irritating. Like dropping a loaded gun on someone's desk. What the fuck are you supposed to do? Honey, does this dress make me look fat? Are you a good little employee? :?

I can't talk, since I got a very good assessment this year. It's still fucking irritating, though.

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Post by tamarakay » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:17 pm

Thanks Dougly, I'm not getting fired cause they are writing them about me. I'm getting fired cause they know I'm not going to pull any punches about them. New CEO is all about accountability and for the first time in our history Managers/supervisors are being let go for employee mismanagement. My supervisor and manager tried to push a bogus disciplinary procedure against me and get my neck on the block. I filed an appeal. We've never had that privilege before. I actually got to talk one on one with the NEW hr manager and it looks like they are actually investigating. We will see. As I said this is all brand new at my company. Historically managers back their supervisors and hr backed managers. Employees had no voice. Our old CEO is now convicted of money laundering and a couple other felonies, we have a new board of directors, and a new CEO. It's all about duck and cover and find someone to blame right now. Our line workers very narrowly voted no on going union and when the union busters met with employees to see why we thought we needed a union I gave specific reasons. So, my supervisor/manager think i'm the bad guy badmouthing them. They do not understand that the majority of the people in our department are looking for jobs.

I am very gifted at teaching technical things to non-techie people. When I was hired we converted from the old VAX system to pc's. 75% of the company had never touched a mouse. I taught them. And it was glorious.I had so much fun and worked so hard. It slowly morphed into I.T. support role, and I've been trying to get back to a teaching role ever since. I am very good at teaching adults. No training, no degree, no certs. Just a 52 year old living in a rural area (i work at a electric coop), where most jobs pay squat. Our little county is consistently in the lowest 10/15 counties in the state in rate of pay, but the top 10/15 for cost of living. To get a comparable paying job I'd have to drive 2 1/2 hours one way. Golden handcuffs. I have been applying at places and would be willing to drive, but i'm competing against people with Master's degrees. 52 years old. No Degree. No certifications (though I am working on some).

It's a big mess. Oh and Fuck.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by tamarakay » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:20 pm

Oh and fuck.

It's funny in my reviews the last 12 years the only one being critical of me is me. I'm very self critical. I'm my own worst enemy in those things.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by theCryptofishist » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:35 pm

I fcucking hate that. I mean the high standards thing. The I know how much better I could be thing.

Not to mention the hey, I expect everyone to play fair thing...

Not that I really hate them, but hate that you get dinged in odd ways because of fcuking politics...
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Sail Man » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:53 pm

tamarakay wrote: 52 years old. No Degree. No certifications. It's a big mess. Oh and Fuck.
I fucking hear you on that one. Not to mention I am stuck with supervisors half my age, brand new to EMS (because my CEO believes in empowering the noobs).

Most of em were crapping in their diapers when i started working fucking EMS, :evil:
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Re: Fuck!

Post by MyDearFriend » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:07 pm

Tamara you fucking genius:

tamarakay wrote:And it all becomes fucking clear. Just got an email that as part of the new review process of supervisors and managers, us minions get to rate their performance as to knowledge of job, responsiveness to stated needs, communication, etc.
Did you not just fucking save an email where your bosslady proved she does not even know the hours you guys provide IT support??? How can she possibly understand what you do if she thinks it is a 9-to-5 job???

Seriously, the overlords will know instantly that she's full of shit. PLEASE paste that into your rating, word for word, in sequential fucking chunks down the page.

Oh oh oh and send that email to yourself at home, get it off their property ASAP. 8)
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Post by tamarakay » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:17 pm

Thanks MDF. Already fucking done. I also kept cc'ing the rest of the team in the emails, no one on one conversations. Fucking witnesses for every interaction. mortgage mortgage mortgage.

I hate fucking confrontations. I just want fucking work, help my co-workers, make their job a little fucking easier to do with technology and pay my fucking bills. Geebus, can't we all just do our fucking jobs and be nice?
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Elorrum » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:28 pm

fucking yikes, and prayers for tk.
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Post by Jax Dee » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:38 pm

tamarakay wrote:Thanks MDF. Already fucking done. I also kept cc'ing the rest of the team in the emails, no one on one conversations. Fucking witnesses for every interaction. mortgage mortgage mortgage.

I hate fucking confrontations. I just want fucking work, help my co-workers, make their job a little fucking easier to do with technology and pay my fucking bills. Geebus, can't we all just do our fucking jobs and be nice?
Also, may I suggest, stop being critical of yourself and really sit down and see what you've done for this company. Create a detailed and comprehensive report/list of the projects you've been integral to, the things you've personally improved, the specific monetary contribution you've made to the upkeep and improvement (for instance the training you did) of the company. For example, when I did this I listed that I set up a way for us to do HR paperwork online versus sending out individual fed-exes to each new employee. But I didn't leave it at that. I looked up how many employees and therefore fed-exes we'd sent the previous year, created an estimate based on current hiring numbers and was able to list a savings of over $20,000 for the company that year based on that one simple task I'd completed and no one else had thought of. Companies want to see the bottom line. Give it to them in hard cash. Make them see you are worth the money they pay you. Every year as part of my review I would list a specific cash amount of what I had saved the company with the different things I had done or implemented. I basically showed every year that I was paying my own salary with the money I saved the company. My boss cried when I left on disability. And still hasn't found a replacement for me almost a year later. There is nothing wrong with bring properly critical of yourself and showing where you can still continue to grow and learn but don't forget to show how awesome you are too. Because you are :)

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Re: Fuck!

Post by Jax Dee » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:39 pm

So my cobra medical premiums are going up by $100/month. The deductible is becoming $500, they added a 10% co-insurance, my co-pay is going from $20 to $45. My meds are going from $10 to $30. So my total monthly costs for premium, meds, and doctor visits are going to be over $1000/month. The epidurals I need in order to walk will now cost me $500. None of which I can afford. I only get paid $1700/month in disability. That barely covers my bills. I'm boned. I hate you America and your insurance companies are ruining everyone's life. My family is literally the only bright spot in my life right now. I am trying hard not to just break down and start screaming and give the fuck up. But I owe better than that to my man and my son. So I guess I keep going and figuring it the fuck out. FUCK.

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Post by Jax Dee » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:45 pm

Oh and I couldn't get a tick to Burning Man. Due to scheduling conflicts I can't go to Transformus. Because now all my money will be spent on medical costs I can't fly out to San Fran and go to Camp Tipsy. I'm aware there are other regionals but I know nothing about them or anyone in my area that attends and due to my health can't plan things on my own anymore. Losing my independence has been the worst thing about my disability. I probably won't be able to do anything burner related this year and I feel like it is just contributing to the death of my soul.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by FIGJAM » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:01 pm

Since you,re on disability, don't you get medicare?

Can you file for some kind of assistance?

I don't think it's right for you to have to spend any of your disability money on medical! :cry:
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Post by Elderberry » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Bad news. booooo!
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Jax Dee » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:22 pm

FIGJAM wrote:Since you,re on disability, don't you get medicare?

Can you file for some kind of assistance?

I don't think it's right for you to have to spend any of your disability money on medical! :cry:
I am on long term disability that I signed up for and paid for through a private company when I worked. (If you do not have disability insurance get it now, it will save your ass if you ever can't work. Also pay for it after taxes if you can, not as a pre-tax benefit. This means if you ever have to use it, the income you receive is non-taxable. That has saved my butt too.) I have applied for SSDI but that could take years. Until I am approved for that I will not get Medicare. And as long as I qualify for cobra I don't qualify for medicaid. Also I'd rather shoot my foot off than be on medicaid. I know from my best friend's experiences that it is horrible. Medicare is not much better. I also don't think it's right that I have had to default on all my bills, use my money to pay for meds, and have nothing left over to live off of. Welcome to America. At least I'm here and getting care rather than a third world country where I'd already be dead. At least I am getting care and not one of the poorer Americans suffering with none or on the street.

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Post by OregonRed » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:32 am

Six posts without a "fuck" :roll: Jeez, peeps... Is this the FUCK thread or what?

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckity, fucking, fuck.

That is all.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by FIGJAM » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:18 am

At the bottom of every one of my posts O R! :lol:
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Post by OregonRed » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:47 pm

FIGJAM wrote:At the bottom of every one of my posts O R! :lol:
:oops: Well... Fuck.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by wh..sh » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:32 pm

I was going to come in here and scream "FUCK!" over my day. But Jax Dee, you changed it all. My heart goes out to you :(
Here, I will scream a FUCK! for you. I hope things will get better for you. Fuck!
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Post by theCryptofishist » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:00 pm

Fuck, wh...sh, a fuck is a fuck. Sure, Jax won queen for this day, at least, but if you need to let something out, we don't judge.
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Re: Fuck!

Post by wh..sh » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:59 pm

Fucking thanks fishy!
Its one of those days where one gets pulled in all directions. It all comes down to lot of stuff going on (mostly good stuff) but at times even that can be stressful.
Then I go to my fucking violin lessons and cant play anything worth a damn in front of the teach because my mind is exhausted.
So, there, I looked like a fucking lazy ass who didn't practice at all... but in all... not a bad day :) Fuck!!
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Re: Fuck!

Post by MyDearFriend » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:05 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Fuck, wh...sh, a fuck is a fuck. Sure, Jax won queen for this day, at least, but if you need to let something out, we don't judge.
Nope, not one fucking bit. If it is still bothering you, cough it up. Here's mine: my dear brother had another MRI, which found another tumor. Another biopsy tomorrow. Fuck, fuck, fuck.
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Post by wh..sh » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:25 pm

Fuck MDF!!
My thoughts are with your family :(
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Post by MyDearFriend » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:40 pm

Thanks, (((wh..sh))), my poor old mother is taking it pretty hard. She has fucking Alzheimer's and has gone now from having a beer after dinner to having a beer instead of dinner... and two for lunch. :?
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Re: Fuck!

Post by TinkerMom » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:43 pm

Fuckin hugs to everybody!!!

Over the last 12 days, here's my fuck......

Sister calls, her mom, my step mom, falls and breaks hip left unfound for 3 days...goes to hospital. Has
emergency surgery, doesn't do well coming out. She lives in Vegas, I was on my way to Vegas anyway for
a conference. In between sessions I visit mom in hospital, shes doing fucking awesome, despite what sissy
says. Sister and I get into huge fight in hallway. She goes to ER, I go with the cops. No charges pressed, thank
gawd. But royally pissed at sissy.
Come home to a wrecked house, where my HunnyBunny hasn't done a fuckin thing around the house,(ie; dishes and
such)
Our dog is very ill, and had to make a decision to put her down. Fuck!! 11 yrs.old

Now tonight, my sons dog got into and ate the fuckin wall insulation, ate a mop, a stick, bloody mary mix, charcoal,
rawhide he stole from neighbors, a plastic bag, and mouse decon.

They are currently at the vets, now will know more later.

FUCK!!!!
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Re: Fuck!

Post by tamarakay » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:18 am

MDF I'm so sorry about your brother and mom.
Tink - aaarrrrgghhhhh
Jax - Once you get approved for the disability and get medicaid they will pay you for all the back pay through the date of application. I can't even imaging dealing with the pain and frustration of your situation.

((((((everyone))))))
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Re: Fuck!

Post by Jax Dee » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:36 am

Thx everyone. Hugs all around because it all sounds like we are dealing with some shit. Fuck it, it WILL get better.

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Re: Fuck!

Post by MyDearFriend » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:19 am

Jax Dee wrote:Thx everyone. Hugs all around because it all sounds like we are dealing with some shit. Fuck it, it WILL get better.
+1000

It really fucking will get better. 8)
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Re: Fuck!

Post by AntiM » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:17 am

In the meantime, here are some fucking (((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))).

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