The Bar

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:49 pm

Ranger Genius wrote:But facts are not subjective. You thinking a word means something else does not change what it means.

"Ros: What are you playing at?"

"Guil: Words! They're all we have to go on!"

I agree with you there, but sometimes a large amount of people will have a certain definition of a word that may not be right, and I always wonder where they learned that definition. Or why the associate the wrong thing

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:52 pm

For instance: the collective unconscious... or is that collective subconscious? See... as much as I love words, these are giving me some difficulty in getting my mind around them. Please, let’s hash this out some more.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:53 pm

I agree LeChat they are tough to hammer out. People associate different things with those words. They aren't the types of words that people have the exact same definitions for.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:55 pm

Also, how do you take the dictionary's definition and apply it to a creative project?

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:56 pm

And that makes it even more difficult, since you must (or at least tend to want to) try and see what the context they are being used in is, and how it applies to something, in this case, BM’05

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:58 pm

All of this should be in the thread I started earlier

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:00 pm

The muse thread, you mean?

And did we loose the Ranger?

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:00 pm

I am actually putting together a list of dictionary definitions to post

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:01 pm

yea

and I don't know

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:01 pm

I just want it to get used is all

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:04 pm

Ahhh... (in whiny kid voice) But then we won’t reach 1600 tonight.

And I’m pondering stuff for that thread. I think it will grow slowly and then quicker as the time draws near. I'll keep it bump up, don't worry.

And yeah... post those so we can dissect them.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:05 pm

I will, but I think I'm gonna put them in the 2005 event section. They make more sense over there.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:06 pm

and we will reach 1600 don't worry

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:08 pm

They make more sense over there

Take this topic to a different thread, you mean?

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:09 pm

You weren't posting, and then I turn around to watch the movie, and BAM!

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:14 pm

Aha!!.. so you’re back.

Please assist me, if you will, in wrapping my mind around this concept. I have no idea why, but when I think about what these words mean (and their collective term: psyche), it’s almost as if I view them through a fog, when related to BM’05... even though I have a good grasp for them individually.

Thoughts?

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:16 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:
They make more sense over there
Take this topic to a different thread, you mean?

No, I'll start a new topic over there when I get it all compiled

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:19 pm

Man, anybody need anything else to drink?

I’m breaking into the cheap wine, I think

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:23 pm

yea, I think a lemonade would be good thanks, there's some pre-mixed in the fridge.

PurpleKoosh · Post by **PurpleKoosh** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:24 pm

LeChatNoir wrote:Man, anybody need anything else to drink?

I’m breaking into the cheap wine, I think

Two-Buck Chuck for everyone!

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:27 pm

Ok...

(fetching pitcher and refilling blue's glass, and pulling off a glass of cheapo-vino for himself and purple)

Conscious: Having an awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, sensations, and thoughts

Subconscious: The part of the mind below the level of conscious perception

So perhaps the unconscious, the way I perceive it, is the state in which the conscious and the subconscious overlap and work things out. With that thought, perhaps we can view the event as a state of lucid dreaming (a state of coherent unconscious?), a state where the things that lay down deep can be brought forth and manifest in front of us. This seems to be on the right track to me, since it was very much like that for me last year.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:32 pm

Hmmm, that sounds about right.

Ranger Genius · Post by **Ranger Genius** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:40 pm

This is all according to my admittedly fairly limited understanding, but what I get is that the subconscious is sort of the interface between the conscious and the unconscious. Your unconscious is things that happen in your mind of which you are completely unaware. Your consciousness is the things that you are aware of and deliberately doing. Your subconscious is the things that you're not normally aware of, but can sometimes be. Your unconscious shapes both of them.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:40 pm

I’m trying to hang in there... *yawn*

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:42 pm

Ohhhhhhhhhh... (holding head) I’ve got to ponder these terms. My brain hurts...

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:43 pm

I'm done! New topic to be posted shortly.

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:46 pm

Ahhhhhhhhhh... (beginning to cry)... and now I’ve got to look in a different spot too!?!?!

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:51 pm

sorry, and you know you don't have to do it tonight

LeChatNoir · Post by **LeChatNoir** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:54 pm

Yeah, I know... I just like to tease. Actually it’ll be a good place to hash it out in great detail.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:56 pm

yea, and then we don't have to take up all the bar's space. Where we are supposed to be DRINKING.