The Bar

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:01 pm

Shhh CBA I was planning on parking next to trucks with there refers running on the trip out, when I needed to catch a few hours of sleep.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:05 pm

I hope no one is flying out on NWA to the burn.....sounds like they're gonna strike!

Wow, you're right, Sput....it is really SLOW!

dang type-o's

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:07 pm

I'm on Southwest, with the obligatory connection in Pheonix. I guess I'm safe.

Thanks BBS.

Hey M, what the Q about the evap pond?

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:11 pm

The Q is, how big/how deep and what are you using for building materials? Are many people going to use it?
I think I'm using some 1'x8' grn trtd and make it 4'x4' so that my shower tent sits right inside and hopefully won't sploosh water out the sides!

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:14 pm

Um.....be right back............

*M runs out the door and over to the Red Tent, gets a cold pack and runs back in*

Sorry....dang those "power surges"!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:18 pm

Oh By the way Blue yes I'm Happy we're going out together it we be fun or a real experience or both!

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:19 pm

It's 10 feet x 70 inches and just a 3 3/4 inches high (it fits the pond liner I had laying around). The shower is a pallet that is built above the pond. If possible I'd like to move it off the pond and just have some plastic below to drain into the pond. I built a frame around the pallet to hold some material for a shower curtain as well as bathing supplies and the camp shower (everyone brings their own). For evap I have a sump pump that will pump the water up and the allow it to flow over a series of boards in a waterfall arrangement. I'm hoping it will look nice as well as be functional (at least when the gennie is running). We have about 30 people in camp, so I'm hoping for the best.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:19 pm

Z/BNO, did you guys decide when you're leaving?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:21 pm

Wow, did I accidentally plonk BNO? I don't see any posts by her.

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:22 pm

Oh wait, I see them, way back on 1194

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:24 pm

Unless something come up we're planning on leaving on the 25th.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:25 pm

WOW! That's a big pond! So you are using a gennie to run the pump? That sounds cool.

I was thinking about having my shower in my dome but that kinda defeats the whole evap pond deal. Then I thought maybe it would help with cooling inside the dome if I hung a towel up as a wick and then set up my little battery box fan to blow on it. I am also going to try the water cleaning with bleach and bring one of those garden bug sprayers after to mist the road.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:27 pm

I'm here Sput, I've just been PM'ing and trying to find something online. I need camo nets like yesterday. Just figured out a shade structure, and all that I'll have to buy is netting.

Ahhhhh! So much to do.

Quick someone drink me. (wow that really sounds kind of dirty, but I'm not going to change it)

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:28 pm

Folks are concerned that it isn't big enough for 30 people. We'll see. Your idea can work if you can get a fan to blow air across the wicking material (it's a basic swamp cooler) but I'd be concerned about running out of batteries. Any chance of getting an AC feed from someone nearby?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:30 pm

Ahh...there you are.

consider yourself drunk!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:31 pm

seems like it would be a mistake to have it in your dome, but right out side so you could try the evaporator cooling thing blowing in the side of the dome might work.

I think I'd just plan on spreading it on the road since you can..... but I know the attraction of the challenge

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:33 pm

Gack! It's late. Gotta run. See you all in 2 weeks!!!!!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:36 pm

As a kid I used to change the filter pads on the evaporator cooler on the roof of his Laundromat. they where an excelsior like material in a mesh netting the water was pumped on to them from the top. you'd need something like an old afghan something absorbent but with a lot of holes for air to flow threw.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:37 pm

I had this other idea about evaporating water, it works in my head anyways.......over your evap pond, not right on it but above it about a foot or so, you put clear plastic over a frame(material of your choice)I'm thinking black plastic pipe because I have it laying around here. It needs to make a little tent, the sun beats down on it and it forms droplets up under the plastic, then the wind blows and it evaporates. Well, it sure sounded good! HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:51 pm

I think just having the open surface area for evaporation to take place would work better, with the cover you keep dust out but you also restrict the air flow. If you use black plastic it will get to dam near boiling hot and with near 0 humidity it should go pretty fast,... unless it rains a lot then all bets are off.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:56 pm

Thanks Sput and good night!

Hey M, where did you find a battery fan? I'm looking for one but I don't want one of those really dinky ones like you find on top of water spray bottles.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:58 pm

SSHHHhhhh......don't say the "R" word!

Blue, I found a 8" battery box fan at malwart(I stopped in Forest Lake)I know the one up here carries them too. It takes B batteries and says it will run for 24 hours on alkalines. It was $13.

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:05 pm

Hey thanks! I'm going to fleet farm tomorrow and will look there first. But I'll keep malwart in mind for an absolute last stop.

(I don't shop at malwart for political reasons, but will if I absolutely have too.)

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:10 pm

I can tell you that the Fleet Farm in Oak Dale didn't have any, I was there too. I've only seen them at Walmart. They are not coleman brand either.....I left the durn thing out in my truck so I'm not sure what brand it is.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:12 pm

I should probably look into getting one of those too, I could get a 12volt that would run off of a deep cycle battery.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:17 pm

My house has been over run with mice! We caught 3 just today! Just caught one not ten minutes ago!

I need to go buy batteries tomorrow, probably at Maynerds.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:18 pm

Z, do you and Blue have FRS radios?

blueniteowl · Post by **blueniteowl** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:19 pm

Well I was going to look at the FF in Brooklyn Park because I'm going to H.R. Harris fabric outlet as well.

Side note: Z, I called H.R. Harris and they have velcro for 1.99 a yard. So I'm going tomorrow to look and probably buy some.

I'll also probably look at Gander Mountain and a few other places before I'll sucumb to Walmart.

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:21 pm

I've been to that fabric outlet store...it's not what it used to be. The prices are pretty dang high for an outlet store. You might as well go to Hancock Fabrics and pay high prices.

What do you need velcro for, Blue?

Martiansky · Post by **Martiansky** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:22 pm

I hear another mouse in the ceiling! Where are they getting in??!!!! CRAP!!

They do have lots of really neat fabric though!