Talk about poor timing?

geospyder · Post by **geospyder** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:38 pm

What's the big thing on the news the last couple days - Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab and his botched attempt to take out Flight 253. Increased security at all the airports. Yesterday I received an email notifying myself and 15 others that due to personnel changes, as of Jan 1, 2010 our services are no longer needed. What are the services that we provided for free since we were volunteers? Aviation security at the local airport.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:03 pm

Lovin' bureaucracy........

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:04 pm

They are hiring professional crotch investigators to replace you with.

gyre · Post by **gyre** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:32 pm

More weird rules thanks to Achmed McGuyver and our bureaucracy.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:40 pm

it's kind of interesting, how, so many who think government, should protect us from everything:
ie:

helmet laws, seatbelt laws, smoking laws......I'm sure there are many examples......

are bitching about how long it takes to go through the airport, and, how it's not ok to profile, so, instead, they waste time patting a grandma down........

TomServo · Post by **TomServo** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:01 pm

Happy New Year!

What a fucked up holiday gift. Hope you rebound quickly.

geospyder · Post by **geospyder** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:26 am

Life is too short to work. I haven't worked in a number of years. What we got let go from was volunteer positions that paid a big fat zero. I just liked interacting with the people.

pinemom · Post by **pinemom** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:39 am

Sorry Geo, # one thing is for government to shoot themselves in foot...you apparently got in the way!

World Power Foundation · Post by **World Power Foundation** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:44 am

Greetings, citizen!

Prepare for your cavity search!

(Freedom isn't free, didn't anyone tell you that?)

geospyder · Post by **geospyder** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:00 am

World Power Foundation wrote:Greetings, citizen!

Prepare for your cavity search!

(Freedom isn't free, didn't anyone tell you that?)

Based on this mornings news, looks like we'll get full body scans in May when we are in Amsterdam.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:59 am

ygmir wrote: so, instead, they waste time patting a grandma down........

Terrorists aren't idiots. If grandmas weren't getting patted down and everyone else was, they'd find convincing grandmas and use them as suicide bombers.

I think TSA does a lot of foolish things, but that's not something that really sticks out for me. And I don't think a Nigerian national looks much like the original 19 hijackers.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:01 am

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote: so, instead, they waste time patting a grandma down........
Terrorists aren't idiots. If grandmas weren't getting patted down and everyone else was, they'd find convincing grandmas and use them as suicide bombers.

I think TSA does a lot of foolish things, but that's not something that really sticks out for me. And I don't think a Nigerian national looks much like the original 19 hijackers.

you know what I mean.......
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oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:25 am

I am suprised that they still let mechanical wheelchairs on airplanes at this point...talk about real easy to hide a bomb in.

LostinReno · Post by **LostinReno** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:45 am

geospyder wrote:Life is too short to work. I haven't worked in a number of years. What we got let go from was volunteer positions that paid a big fat zero. I just liked interacting with the people.

You just liked that cool looking sheriffs department card!

Did ya get to keep it?

You could always train to become a professional crotch investigator, heehee

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:55 am

oneeyeddick wrote:I am suprised that they still let mechanical wheelchairs on airplanes at this point...talk about real easy to hide a bomb in.

Um. I'm not so sure about that. When I went to Roanoke in 08, I got a special patdown and some sort of wacky thing where they used what looked like a stridex pad to wipe off part of my chair. I assume that that was a chemical test for explosives. If I'm correct, then you'd have to know what chemicals they are testing for and then use different ones in your devise or you'd have to put together your bomb in a room with out the wheelchair and then put it in the wheelchair without trace chemicals contaminating the chair surface. And I wasn't allowed to bring it into the cabin, just to the door and it was then whisked away to travel in the hold, so they may have had the opportunity to double check.

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 am

yeah, good points...In Denver, they have a booth you go into(THICK glass), and air is blasted all round you, and they check for elements in the air somehow, before letting your bomb-toting underwear and wheelchair out.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:05 am

do you have to pay extra for that?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:13 am

ygmir wrote:do you have to pay extra for that?

Just an arm and a leg.

ygmir · Post by **ygmir** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:15 am

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geospyder · Post by **geospyder** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:11 pm

LostinReno wrote:You just liked that cool looking sheriffs department card! Did ya get to keep it?

Still involved in a couple other things with the WCSO, all volunteer, so I still have my ID. It was the RTAA that withdrew from the partnership with WCSO.

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:36 pm

geospyder wrote:
World Power Foundation wrote:Greetings, citizen!

Prepare for your cavity search!

(Freedom isn't free, didn't anyone tell you that?)
Based on this mornings news, looks like we'll get full body scans in May when we are in Amsterdam.

Change your name to Abdul and you can apparently expect the red carpet treatment.

geospyder · Post by **geospyder** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:39 pm

Ugly Dougly wrote:Change your name to Abdul and you can apparently expect the red carpet treatment.

...or at least when they get through with you the carpet will be red

Ugly Dougly · Post by **Ugly Dougly** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:43 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
ygmir wrote: so, instead, they waste time patting a grandma down........
Terrorists aren't idiots. If grandmas weren't getting patted down and everyone else was, they'd find convincing grandmas and use them as suicide bombers.

I think TSA does a lot of foolish things, but that's not something that really sticks out for me. And I don't think a Nigerian national looks much like the original 19 hijackers.

Line up all the successful terrorists, show me their faces and names. I am convinced that we would see a pattern.

If terrorists were idiots, they would be doing suicide attacks. Oh, they are. Forget I said that.

The reason TSA pats down grandma is the same reason that the people at Safeway ask you if need help to the car, even if you've been toting your basket around the store for half an hour. Discrimination and profiling.

But profiling works. People are generally stupid and follow a pattern.

Simon of the Playa · Post by **Simon of the Playa** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 pm

The TSA are like Totally Super Awesome!

there, maybe now they'll take me off the anal probe list

oneeyeddick · Post by **oneeyeddick** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:45 pm

Then you would have to start paying for that service again.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:46 pm