And.... He's OUT!

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And.... He's OUT!

Post by GreyCoyote » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:00 pm

Jim Tannanbaum, that is. Per the Jack Rabbit Speaks newsletter!

Adios. See ya. BYE-BYE!
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Post by lucky420 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:25 pm

short and sweet.
Oh my god, it's HUGE!

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Post by trilobyte » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:02 pm

I'm giving this a nudge over to Politics and Philosophy because that's a better fit. It's also being discussed in the 2014 AfterBurn report thread.

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Post by alt12 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:46 am

I have to say, its nice to see that with enough bitching and moaning by the community, the BMORG can still be made to respond in some fashion. Of the 2 primary complaints (JT remaining on that board and commodification camps receiving special treatment via-v-vis the placement process, both have been addressed). Score 1 for the non-douchebags, finally...

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Post by VultureChow » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:50 am

While I'm glad this happened, I'm still worried about the "concierge camps" (is that what we're calling them now?). That's wonderful if they live up to the standards of theme camps, but its still someone actively profiting off of the burning man brand and now it comes with the explicit backing of the organization.

And as board members travel the speaking and festival circuit, the message seems to be that we're just another festival. I know the stated intent is to spread the ethos of burning man, but I'm wondering if we're simply spreading the aesthetic without the message.
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Post by graidawg » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:18 am

Burning Man IS just another festival now, half the people who go have never been been before, have no concept of the ethos, more and more people are suplying the BM package, from concierge camps for the wealthy to playapods and hexyurts for the less wealthy - with tickets selling out in hours and reselllers advertising in places like groupon, stubhub ebay and more. Our alternative festival is now mainstream for a lot, the sound camps get big name djs and acts to put on a show famous people pull strings to get in first camp.
Commercialization is now a fact of life at bm and will get worse once larry sells the brand and retires. Its inevitable do we think capatalism will simply ignore us? Millions get spent on BM by attendees, expect to see brand name companies on the road to bm any day soon, selling suppies in gerlach and empire for those that didnt stop in fernley on the way in.
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Post by Simon of the Playa » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:48 am

oh ye of little faith.

i beg to differ.

what other "festival" listens to it's attendees?

what other "festival" has a community like ours?

no other.

this is the Burning Man Project. it is not a fucking "festival"...

you may see the world as full of shit, or going to shit, or in the shit, but it does not mean that it will smell up our garden.

it's manure, it can be used to feed the flowers.

and quite frankly, we will fight the encroachment of the shit with FIRE


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Post by theCryptofishist » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:19 pm

graidawg wrote:... half the people who go have never been been before...
Just like every year.

And you know this, grai...
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Post by Lonesomebri » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:19 pm

A toast to all who helped open the door and showed him the way out. With this behind JT, I am sure he can get on with his 2015 Playa Resort plans without the weight of 2014 harshing his Burn.

And to those who made sure he had a comfortable place to sit until the mob arrived.... Thanks, the anger you helped foster with your non-action and acceptance was a great motivator and constant source of energy. It's only right that we all take credit.
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