My petition to ban glowsticks and feathers
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My petition to ban glowsticks and feathers
I would say that the two MOOPS that I pick up the most of on the playa are the stupid feathers that all the tribal scenesters put in their outfits and all the glowsticks that people don't attach to themselves properly. I am starting a crusade to ban both of these things from the playa. Anyone with me? Sign the petition.
Signed,
Chango
Signed,
Chango
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Changoloco, I soooo appreciate your care for the playa! And while I appreciate the sentiment, I disagree with the idea.
Feathers are already discouraged.
Glow sticks are not nearly as difficult to clean up as feathers. Yes, they get dropped. But they actually do serve a function and I'd rather a frat boy or a raver or an old lady use a glow stick to light themselves up at night rather than nothing. Of course it would be much better if they could get more creative than that, but not everyone can.
It's great to work toward a 100% moop-free event, but it's unlikely to get that good. In the meantime, we work to clean up after the slackers and mistakes, and in the scheme of things, picking up a glow stick or 2 or 100 ain't that bad. I'd rather pick up a glowstick than feathers, seeds, poop, broken glass, burnt wood, green plastic fake grass, dried plant material, hay, sequins, hair...all of which I have spent many an hour picking up.
Feathers are already discouraged.
Glow sticks are not nearly as difficult to clean up as feathers. Yes, they get dropped. But they actually do serve a function and I'd rather a frat boy or a raver or an old lady use a glow stick to light themselves up at night rather than nothing. Of course it would be much better if they could get more creative than that, but not everyone can.
It's great to work toward a 100% moop-free event, but it's unlikely to get that good. In the meantime, we work to clean up after the slackers and mistakes, and in the scheme of things, picking up a glow stick or 2 or 100 ain't that bad. I'd rather pick up a glowstick than feathers, seeds, poop, broken glass, burnt wood, green plastic fake grass, dried plant material, hay, sequins, hair...all of which I have spent many an hour picking up.
Live as if everyone loves you and thinks you look great. Dance as if no one is watching.
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I do better with glowsticks than with anything battery powered.
Fifty dollars on those elwire bike things that weren't tough enough to survive regular usage was fifty dollars wasted, imho.
Fifty dollars on those elwire bike things that weren't tough enough to survive regular usage was fifty dollars wasted, imho.
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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i think fishie is saying she doesnt break her glowsticks, whereas the chinese-made el wire drivers have numerous points of failure. that failunjonharley wrote:Huh?theCryptofishist wrote:I do better with glowsticks than with anything battery powered.

(my bikeglow pieces made it, but this little burner is going to be asking santa for a soldering kit if I plan on using more and more of it- which i do, it's pretty cool stuff! but yeah, might as well cut out the middle man and stick the cheaply made chinese parts together myself, that way i can field strip and replace when they shit the bed)
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Lose a feather, eat a feather!
About mid-week every year, after I have picked up countless pink feathers, I start getting a strong urge to make the sparkle ponies I see on the dance floor eat the feathers they are shedding. One of these days I'm going to cross that line in the dust and actually act on that urge, getting stronger with every feather!
She who must be obeyed
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Think there were a lot more new burners.. It happens abouy everyother year.. They throw there butts at home.. Not realising it's moop and damaging on the playastopgo wrote:How about cigarettes? I probably picked up about 50 butts this year. I can't believe people throw their cigarette butts on the ground anywhere, much less at Burning Man. I'm not a big fan of smoking.
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Cigarette butts are a very common moop item off-playa. And then they start ranting about "Smokers' Rights." Rights come with responsibilities; perhaps they need to start educating each other about that issue in order to show some sort of good faith effort.unjonharley wrote:Think there were a lot more new burners.. It happens abouy everyother year.. They throw there butts at home.. Not realising it's moop and damaging on the playastopgo wrote:How about cigarettes? I probably picked up about 50 butts this year. I can't believe people throw their cigarette butts on the ground anywhere, much less at Burning Man. I'm not a big fan of smoking.
Just pisses me off. Scott used to have his trouser pockets full of butts. Whatever else you want to say about him, he didn't throw his butts on the ground.
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"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
no
Ban cigarettes, megaphones and amplified sound that can be heard farther then 1000 feet away. And ban all amplified sound between 5 am and 10 am. Fuck smokers and people who love to make noise. Keep the glowsticks, its the only way we can see people at night!
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And fish knockers come in day-glo flourescent colors...how poetic.unjonharley wrote:That is what the doggy pooper scooper on the moop mobile is for.. They kept moaning they wern't dead yet. Next years equipment will include a fish knockerTomServo wrote:Better to pick up lost glo sticks, than dead or maimed unilluminated bodies...I always say.
We have an obligation to make space for everyone, we have no obligation to make that space pleasant.
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*looks down at her ventral side, confused*oneeyeddick wrote:And fish knockers come in day-glo flourescent colors...how poetic.unjonharley wrote:That is what the doggy pooper scooper on the moop mobile is for.. They kept moaning they wern't dead yet. Next years equipment will include a fish knockerTomServo wrote:Better to pick up lost glo sticks, than dead or maimed unilluminated bodies...I always say.
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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theCryptofishist wrote:*looks down at her ventral side, confused*oneeyeddick wrote:And fish knockers come in day-glo flourescent colors...how poetic.unjonharley wrote: That is what the doggy pooper scooper on the moop mobile is for.. They kept moaning they wern't dead yet. Next years equipment will include a fish knocker
Marty Python's,, Holy Grail, "Bring out your dead".... "But I ain't dead yet" whack in the head
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Oh crap. I've just passed into another level of "uncool." Not seeing a MP reference is a crime in some states.unjonharley wrote:theCryptofishist wrote:*looks down at her ventral side, confused*oneeyeddick wrote: And fish knockers come in day-glo flourescent colors...how poetic.
Marty Python's,, Holy Grail, "Bring out your dead".... "But I ain't dead yet" whack in the head
The Lady with a Lamprey
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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People are going to be idiots and not follow the rules no matter what you try to do or say. Otherwise there wouldn't be any feathers out there in the first place, since it only says "no feathers!" in about 40-50 places in the survival guide, online, on the eplaya, etc.
Glow sticks I am all for. At least they serve a purpose and are relatively easy to clean up. (And I'm not completely sold on the environmental argument... I think it's a much closer call than people realize, comparing glow stick pollution and waste to electronic light stick + battery pollution and waste)
I don't use the actual sticks so much anymore, but the bracelets are still really nice, and I haven't found anything electronic yet that gives off quite the same low level, nice eye-pleasing light. But as others pointed out, I'd much rather see people walking around with glow sticks on than no light at all.
Glow sticks I am all for. At least they serve a purpose and are relatively easy to clean up. (And I'm not completely sold on the environmental argument... I think it's a much closer call than people realize, comparing glow stick pollution and waste to electronic light stick + battery pollution and waste)
I don't use the actual sticks so much anymore, but the bracelets are still really nice, and I haven't found anything electronic yet that gives off quite the same low level, nice eye-pleasing light. But as others pointed out, I'd much rather see people walking around with glow sticks on than no light at all.