Temple building drama?

[chuckularone]

Though I will admit to vacillating between calling them Germans and Nazis and did intentionally go with the more inflammatory term.

[ygmir]

Disney, Nazi, Godwin's law, Christian the Jew, equating Germans with Nazis, patriotic French music (seemingly without fear), Melodiousdirg..............and all on one page!!
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!

and the one thought, that sums it all up, for me at least

its not about picking sides, it's about people telling other people how to be.

weakly I will echo:
It's all about YOU, burner.
It's what YOU do
It's what YOU like
and it's how YOU act:

YOU, have no right to tell anyone what is right, how to "Burn", how to feel or how to express themselves ( physical harm/crime/trespass excepted, of course)
YOU don't like it?
YOU deal with it.

But, it's YOU, "Burner, party of one", who is tasked with finding your own happy place, not molding others to fit it.

[FIGJAM]

Frozen, Fucked, and Burned.

Yup, I think we covered all the bases.

[Christian The Jew]

one last thing, after re-reading this thread i was doubly convinced of this.

Christian the Jew baited and goaded this on.

See. Nothing changes. We're always the scapegoats for everything from World Wars to eplaya arguments.

[Bless]

See. Nothing changes. We're always the scapegoats for everything from World Wars to eplaya arguments.

Jews blaming other Jews? I don't believe it.

[VultureChow]

i think only half of Simon is Jewish.

Not sure if it's the upper or lower half.

[H.G.Crosby]

a jew that quotes John on his sig line is not a jew.


*plonk*

[Roberto Dobbisano]

a jew that quotes John on his sig line is not a jew.


*plonk*

where did you learn that? at Temple?


and *plonk* the "Jew" to complete the cycle...

[Jovankat]

See. Nothing changes. We're always the scapegoats for everything from World Wars to eplaya arguments.

Jews blaming other Jews? I don't believe it.

You did not seriously just calm antisemitism over people being justifiably annoyed by your behaviour?!

[tamarakay]

Goodness, I don't think he seriously says anything.

[theCryptofishist]

Indeed. Not quite sure what's going on with him.

[Christian The Jew]

I was joking.

Jeeeez.

I didn't realize things were so serious.

Why so sewious???

[theCryptofishist]

Should I answer that?

[Token]

[Bless]

oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy

[Simon of the Playa]

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[ygmir]

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oh, that's slick..............

I still say don't build it! let many make their own little ones, village style, see what happens naturally, in the vacuum.

[tamarakay]

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oh, that's slick..............

I still say don't build it! let many make their own little ones, village style, see what happens naturally, in the vacuum.

More and more I say this is the way to go.

[Underwear2013]

Well hello all. I've been reading all six pages of this conversation try to catch up. Now that I have, I cant help but think this is so funny.
There were a few comments from people that didn't believe their comments were valid, to them I say: are you a burner? Yes. Then your opinion is valid.

I find it hard to believe that an argument can start on quiet or not quiet to me it seems funny but here it is. I volunteer for the temple, and we guardians do not hush people. I've been taught to respect everyone and their rituals and we only intervene when your actions endanger yourself, others or the temple. During the burn I've seen people in tears, people with smiles and people that cheer; all of which is okay. Should you chose to be silent then be silent, should you chose to cry then cry and should you chose to laugh and cheer and rejoice well then do so. We as a community can not restrict how people celebrate/mourn. we should all embrace our difference and accept one another. If someone's joy can disrupt you then a min or two alone maybe what you need, but its unreasonable and unfair to sit with a few thousand people and demand that they follow your believes or you way or mourning. I truly hope that we can all find a way to be our self around each other, because as I understand it burning man is not about being the same as everyone else.

Love you all, see ya on the playa
Underwear~

[jneilvindy]

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Ahh a 1980's version of Grace Jones benignly watching over the playa would be a comfort indeed on those nights when my view of humanity in general is at an all-time low.

I'm not sure I could watch it burn on Sunday evening!

[Simon of the Playa]

I volunteer for the temple, and we guardians do not hush people. I've been taught to respect everyone and their rituals and we only intervene when your actions endanger yourself, others or the temple. During the burn I've seen people in tears, people with smiles and people that cheer; all of which is okay. Should you chose to be silent then be silent, should you chose to cry then cry and should you chose to laugh and cheer and rejoice well then do so. We as a community can not restrict how people celebrate/mourn. we should all embrace our difference and accept one another. If someone's joy can disrupt you then a min or two alone maybe what you need, but its unreasonable and unfair to sit with a few thousand people and demand that they follow your believes or you way or mourning. I truly hope that we can all find a way to be our self around each other, because as I understand it burning man is not about being the same as everyone else.

SHAZAM!!!


+100

[Fan C]

Well hello all. I've been reading all six pages of this conversation try to catch up. Now that I have, I cant help but think this is so funny.
There were a few comments from people that didn't believe their comments were valid, to them I say: are you a burner? Yes. Then your opinion is valid.

I find it hard to believe that an argument can start on quiet or not quiet to me it seems funny but here it is. I volunteer for the temple, and we guardians do not hush people. I've been taught to respect everyone and their rituals and we only intervene when your actions endanger yourself, others or the temple. During the burn I've seen people in tears, people with smiles and people that cheer; all of which is okay. Should you chose to be silent then be silent, should you chose to cry then cry and should you chose to laugh and cheer and rejoice well then do so. We as a community can not restrict how people celebrate/mourn. we should all embrace our difference and accept one another. If someone's joy can disrupt you then a min or two alone maybe what you need, but its unreasonable and unfair to sit with a few thousand people and demand that they follow your believes or you way or mourning. I truly hope that we can all find a way to be our self around each other, because as I understand it burning man is not about being the same as everyone else.

Love you all, see ya on the playa
Underwear~

Thank you. I've never seen the shushing come from the guardians. Usually others in the temple. My buddies first year he went to the temple. Now he's very not spritual, he just wanted to see what it was about. So it's fairly quiet and then they see this lady doing some heavy breathing exercises, no biggie. Suddenly she lets out this blood curdling scream. My friend, not used to this sort of thing starts laughing. Nervous laughter, he had a bit of freak out at the overwhelming emotion of the place.

As he was hurrying out the looks he got from folks have kept him from ever going back.

[snardy]

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Holy shit, Simon

I haven't read this thread since the day I started it. Hilarious read!

[Elderberry]

Some things (and some people) just never change.

[Bless]

[media]

[burner von braun]

Thanks for posting the video Bless

[bluemiragemi]

We as a community can not restrict how people celebrate/mourn. we should all embrace our difference and accept one another. If someone's joy can disrupt you then a min or two alone maybe what you need, but its unreasonable and unfair to sit with a few thousand people and demand that they follow your believes or you way or mourning. I truly hope that we can all find a way to be our self around each other, because as I understand it burning man is not about being the same as everyone else.

Underwear~

Yep, this. And back there when you referred to the "yoga" people bringing you down and wanting the silence and blah blah blah, I take offense to that :p As a yoga teacher and practitioner and Temple Guardians volunteer I completely agree with the quote above. You feel what you feel, you experience what you experience, fuck the judgment.

This year, I'm mourning a divorce, I'm celebrating a new amazing relationship, a new dog, getting my home back, skydiving for the first time ever, turning a milestone birthday year, my life shifting in crazy beautiful ways. All the things. I'm going to scream, cry, dance and sit there and stare into the fire.

This is your life. This is your mourning and your experience. Who are any of us to deny each other that? Ridiculous. You want quiet? --Change your environment, don't ask the environment to change for you.

[Simon of the Playa]

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[Fidget]

IGNORANCE.
It's why I don't read your posts anymore.

[Bless]

Interesting perspective on the whole 'burning in silence' discussion: