I if you are bringing an RV...Please READ

[firepoet]

Think about community when you park. Last year the entire length of the other side of the street was the backside of RVs... this creates isolation and the eliminates the chance to create a neighborhood. (which can be one of the best playa experiences) If you need to create a wall do it 30 feet from the street so tent campers can camp along the street. Thanks.

[Molotov]

You are not getting it. Us aristocrats in the RVs are providing a windbreak for the wretched proletariat and their flimsy hovels. Think of it as out gift to you....

[Captain Goddammit]

Ok got it. RVs aren't allowed within 30 feet of the street.
It's a new rule, everybody. Tents along the street.

[ranger magnum]

Who died and made you Larry?

[Eric]

I camp in an RV, and I get tired of the wall of RVs too, but it's not my job to tell other people how to camp. If you don't like looking at a wall of RVs, move. It's not their job to make you happy, and the more you rely on the world going your way the crankier you're going to be about things. From your join-date you've been around long enough to know that many camps do this deliberately to help shield their tent-campers from the wind, to set a boundary for personal camp space, and to maximize space within their camps. That's their choice and their right.

Besides - all tents lining the street will make us look like a refugee camp, and I'm not sure why you think that's visually better.

[Captain]

I'm bringing an RV this year, but it's not a rental, it's our home 24/7/365, and I'm really worried after years of tent camping that I'm finally going to have to deal with the anti-rv closed minded crap.

[skippy3k]

Besides - all tents lining the street will make us look like a refugee camp, and I'm not sure why you think that's visually better.

Funny....the birgin we are bringing this year looked at photos of our past years and said "wow....it looks like....well....I guess I didn't expect it to look so much like....a refugee camp. Is that wrong to say?"

But back to the OP's point...I struggle with extreme RV trailer guilt. If I could park mine underground and have it not be seen, I would. But when I do park it, my only priorities are a) not impose too much on whoever is there first and b) the tongue is facing the street so if/when I need to leave in the middle of the night, I can get to it with my truck and go and not have to track that one guy down in a city of over 60,000 to have him move his shit. So I guess I'm saying I feel I am considerate enough.

[Captain Goddammit]

I'm bringing an RV this year, but it's not a rental, it's our home 24/7/365, and I'm really worried after years of tent camping that I'm finally going to have to deal with the anti-rv closed minded crap.

That mostly exists here on eplaya. I've never encountered any of that in person.

[tatonka]

we had a couple of RV's next to us last year , was a good wind block

[trilobyte]

firepoet's post is well-intentioned, but misguided. Trying to plan a 30 feet from the street minimum requirement is not usually possible (if the vehicle is to be serviced, it needs to be NO FURTHER than 30 feet from the street or have a clear access road for service vehicles), regardless of whether in a placed camp or not. And for a larger or placed camp, asking to make drastic changes to a plan months after it's been submitted and distributed to campmates.. an even bigger challenge.

As per the meeting notesfrom the 2014 theme camp forum, camps were asked to give some thought to the placement of RV's within the space. Basically, when planning out your camp's layout, think bigger picture. Your camp not only has frontage (that part that faces the street), but it has neighbors to the left, the right, and behind. And for big camps taking an entire block's width that have a street behind them, you've got neighbors directly behind you across the street.

People come to Burning Man in all kinds of vehicles, and camp in RV's, and that's fine. We all love the great views of the playa, but a giant wall of RV's (or a parking lot camp, for that matter) is not one of those great views. Your camp probably puts a lot of time and resources into planning a great experience for both your campmates and guests, please also give some consideration to your neighbors. I've seen some great examples of people coming up with great solutions, from angling and spacing the vehicles to hanging art and murals off the sides of the outside walls.

[Fidget]

the more you rely on the world going your way the crankier you're going to be about things.

That is pretty much solid life advice right there.

[firepoet]

Wanted to clarify my original post...

I am not Larry... I am not proposing new rules... I enjoy EVERYONE at BRC regardless of transportation...

Creativity among other things means being awake and conscious about choices. RVs are like building blocks from an architectural perspective... a prime principle of burningman (I am still not Larry) is about creating and sustaining community and the interdependence that goes with it.
My experience last year with a block long wall of RVs was disappointing for me. Clearly it could have been the best of possible design for those folks, as it is when the priority is creating a wind break. The 30 feet was just an example... that last year would have served the community and I think the owners without any compromise. Another idea... (not a rule) park vertical to the street instead of horizontal... With all the creative minds I bet there are 100's of ways to design RV placement, just as there are 100's of ways to create shade, etc. I am just asking folks to put inter-active community/neighborhoods into the placement equation.

[Captain Goddammit]

Go look at Larry's camp.
What a bunch of bs.

[dragonpilot]

With all the creative minds I bet there are 100's of ways to design RV placement, just as there are 100's of ways to create shade, etc. I am just asking folks to put inter-active community/neighborhoods into the placement equation.

Many of us have seen the RV walls and share your feelings about them, but unfortunately, it is just the creative minds of which you speak that designed that type of RV placement. I glance at it and move on.

[lululoisa]

It's great to meet your neighbor RVer and create an additional shade space by attaching a shade tarp from one RV to the other. I've done this several times at Burning ma. It's most fun when the RV's can face the street to interact with the street-goers.