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gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:36 am

buckethead alien wrote:I like the new avatar, Tony-tone. Not that Spookyhead was bad, though.

So, yeah, re credit, as a journo, I feel perhaps more strongly than some that the appropriation of others' work without acknowledgment of the source is wrong. That said, if the quoted material is something like a familiar song lyric, then I think a citation is not necessary. However, passing off someone else's work as your own, or not disclosing this fact when queried, is not right.

Guess I had a dollop of bitter in my coffee this morning.

Question: What about using other people's artwork in my avatars? Seems that must be wrong, as well. Is there a rule for it?

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:47 am

gigglesnort wrote:Question: What about using other people's artwork in my avatars? Seems that must be wrong, as well. Is there a rule for it?

In my opinion, and here, this is just an opinion, it is difficult for denizens of the eplaya to confuse an avatar with an original work, although the artist whose material was appropriated might take issue with this. I am not sure there is a "rule."

The concept of "fair use" underwhich copyrighted material may be reproduced without the author's permission basicallly alllows the right of commentary, parody, artistic re-interpretation, and so on. Without the protection this doctorine affords, free speech rights would be limited.

Passing off someone else's work as your own is not okay. Whether an avatar is understood to be original work or not is a judgement call. While the creators of the image the 4WotA are using as their avatar might object, there seems nothing wrong with its use in this clearly satirical context. If they put the image on a box of breakfast cereal, then they'd have problems.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:49 am

buckethead alien wrote:I like the new avatar, Tony-tone. Not that Spookyhead was bad, though.

So, yeah, re credit, as a journo, I feel perhaps more strongly than some that the appropriation of others' work without acknowledgment of the source is wrong. That said, if the quoted material is something like a familiar song lyric, then I think a citation is not necessary. However, passing off someone else's work as your own, or not disclosing this fact when queried, is not right.

Guess I had a dollop of bitter in my coffee this morning.

I getcha... I feel that credit is due where credit is due too. But if he is a bartender and he knows this stuff off the top of his head... well, that's kind of like paid training!

The spooky head was a mask I wore at BM on Friday night. It was kind of GIANT if you know what I mean. I was like 8' with it on. Kept running into stuff trying to get into tents and stuff, but it was fun. It was supposed to be the Baron Samedi, but everyone thought I was Jack Skully so I went with it. =)

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:51 am

gigglesnort wrote:
Question: What about using other people's artwork in my avatars? Seems that must be wrong, as well. Is there a rule for it?

I think this is acceptable gigasnort! Hehe.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:21 am

buckethead alien wrote:
Zulegoona wrote:Sandwichman is Beca your sock? I lost my program and can't tell who the players are.
no, i am becca and yes, things are in the crapper at home

oh, and don't you think that maybe Sandwichman ought to be giving credit for all of "his" recipes?

http://www.barnonedrinks.com/recipes/co ... ynuts.html

- Grumpy

I have never claimed the drinks as my own so please don't go on that kick and take the negativity out the door.

Jason

buckethead alien · Post by **buckethead alien** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:36 am

Sandwichman wrote:
tonytohono wrote:be safe CBA

sandwichman are you a bartender?

I better try one of those. But don't tell me I didn't warn you...

=}
Not a bartender just a good customer.

Sandwichman · Post by **Sandwichman** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:36 am

Let me start some coffee for you all. Have a good morning and Seattle people beware t-minus 2.5 hours til departure.

Jason

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:36 am

I don't think many people thought you were the inventor of all the alcoholic concoctions you posted or collected the recipes from traveling the world one bar at a time. But just think what it would be like if you had, you couldn't even go into a restaurant without some bartender dumping some crap together and trying to get you to drink it. you'd be hounded by people wanting you to record and credit their subtle variations. It could get to be a real drag......

So I'll take a Port Asbestos bloody marry that would have a splash of Canadian beer and instead of a celery sprig it has a strip of moose jerky.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:39 am

hey...am i still locked in the freezer...or am i back in the rabbit hole...or do the 4wota still have me...im confused.....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:42 am

DAMN!! how are there 15 new pages since i left at 6 yesterday....dont you people have jobs or somethin? im never gonna be able to catch up on all this....

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:42 am

seems like I remember the fish pulling you out of the freezer, giving you a slap on the ass with her tail and sending you out the door,... but maybe not.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:43 am

Sandwichman wrote:
buckethead alien wrote:
Zulegoona wrote:Sandwichman is Beca your sock? I lost my program and can't tell who the players are.
no, i am becca and yes, things are in the crapper at home

oh, and don't you think that maybe Sandwichman ought to be giving credit for all of "his" recipes?

http://www.barnonedrinks.com/recipes/co ... ynuts.html

- Grumpy

Fight! Fight! Conflict Respirations!
I have never claimed the drinks as my own so please don't go on that kick and take the negativity out the door.

Jason

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:44 am

WTF, that quote thing didn't work right for me just now....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:45 am

Zulegoona wrote: So I'll take a Port Asbestos bloody marry that would have a splash of Canadian beer and instead of a celery sprig it has a strip of moose jerky.

that sounds good...make it two...and does anyone have some smoke??

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:45 am

LamplighterDuke wrote:hey...am i still locked in the freezer...or am i back in the rabbit hole...or do the 4wota still have me...im confused.....

Hey! I'm confused too! And I have a headache!

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:46 am

LamplighterDuke wrote:
Zulegoona wrote: So I'll take a Port Asbestos bloody marry that would have a splash of Canadian beer and instead of a celery sprig it has a strip of moose jerky.
that sounds good...make it two...and does anyone have some smoke??

Gotcher green&sticky right here....

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:48 am

LamplighterDuke wrote:....dont you people have jobs or somethin? ....

Maybe not after this week....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:50 am

sweet...now pass de dutchie pon de lef an sigh

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:53 am

gigglesnort wrote:
LamplighterDuke wrote:....dont you people have jobs or somethin? ....
Maybe not after this week....

oh...that sucks...whatd you do?? or not do?? or did u just sit around in the eplaya allday???

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:53 am

smoke...... I'm out of cigarettes!

well shit I'm going to have to go get some, Later kids.

oh there is a box of 4 Women of the Apocalypse breakfast cereal on the shelf over there, EXTRA CRUNCHY have some it repels milk but soaks up beer pretty good.

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:56 am

LamplighterDuke wrote:
gigglesnort wrote:
LamplighterDuke wrote:....dont you people have jobs or somethin? ....
Maybe not after this week....
oh...that sucks...whatd you do?? or not do?? or did u just sit around in the eplaya allday???

all week :oops:

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:57 am

Zulegoona wrote:smoke...... I'm out of cigarettes!

well shit I'm going to have to go get some, Later kids.

oh there is a box of 4 Women of the Apocalypse breakfast cereal on the shelf over there, EXTRA CRUNCHY have some it repels milk but soaks up beer pretty good.

Bye ZeeGee!

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:06 am

By the time you get back with the smokes Z you'll be several pages back.

This place be jumpin' 24/7

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:07 am

pssst.....Hey Tony.....over here in the bushes......

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:19 am

I'm not surte it's a good idea to be calling me into the bushes sweetie.., I'm on a serious caffeine bender... are you sure? I get hyper, and certain parts of me come up with personalities of their own.

Warning has been posted. Use at your own risk.

Omnipotent Booming Voice · Post by **Omnipotent Booming Voice** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:27 am

DO NOT BE AFRAID ;)

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:00 am

Wait a minute...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Attack of the socks!!!

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:11 am

Howdy kids...just poppin' in quick to catch up...

Hey, Bucket!! You're Becca, too?! damn....
hey, baby, if it helps, i have yer book and am reading it and am excited and moved by it and by the idea that it will be handed back to you next year all decorated and notated. sorry 'bout the homelife, homeslice. sending warm sparkly lovin's cross-country...

****(((((((((((((((Buckethead Alien))))))))))))))))*******

thanks to everyone else for keeping the place hoppin!

see y'all later.

oh - and stuart, you said/asked something so far back i'll never remember or find it.... yeah. just us in here this weekend. might be nice to have a quiet night by the burn barrel with some really good wine...

ta-ta!

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:13 am

[small, frightened voice]what do you think "they" want?[/small frightened voice]

gigglesnort · Post by **gigglesnort** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:15 am

Hiya Tish Biya Tish (two tishes!)

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