Nudity on the Playa

Mister Jellyfish Mister · Post by **Mister Jellyfish Mister** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:12 pm

LamplighterDuke wrote:hey jelly...i hope you didnt drive the car around all nekkid and stuff...id hate to think i was sitting in butt N ball sweat all week

-Cpt. Duke

Bullshit, Duke! I saw you trying to make soup with my seat cushion after a long pilot run. Too bad for you that I love my BVD's.

I'm ready to start the engine rebuild on the Time Tractor. Had a hellofa time finding the right kit of parts. Next year: more power to vibrate the pilot seat.

Welcome back, AntiM! I like guitar rock too. They all wear tattoo's on their bod's. Just think of your scars as very, very cool and dare others to stop being pussies and get their own.

Silver 2 · Post by **Silver 2** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:17 pm

OK, I went naked more than once, showers, trips to the potty, last ride before leaving Monday. And I am 51 and while not bad no body-beautiful.

From my observations, the benefit for nudity on the Playa is for those women, and I guess some men, who do not have anything like what could be called a perfect body. I have had no less than three women tell me how wonderful it was to walk around with little or nothing on and feel like they could without fear of being rejected or actually being made fun of. One of these young women (34-36) told me that before her first BM trip she had not disrobed or made love wtih the lights on in over 15 years.

As for the folks that flant it, more power to them, and that includes the hard body (the SOB) that camped across from me. If I had a bod like that I would be carrying a sign. I have an idea of how much work that takes and I admire them for it.

Anti-M, if you had been exposing fresh wounds to the sun you would have gotten a lecture about how the sun can damage wounded skin -- with examples; and it would be a lot worse with skin like yours.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:00 pm

actiongrl wrote:I went totally naked every day in 99, 2000, and 2001.

Now I know why those were my favorite years!

A II Z

PS- there should be manditory naked hours from 12-2:00pm. if not for any reason other then it wouldn't deter the tourists!

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:42 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote: PS- there should be manditory naked hours from 12-2:00pm. if not for any reason other then it wouldn't deter the tourists!

That's not a bad idea... The entire playa or something~!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:38 am

damn...you saw that?
i was gonna go to center camp and sell it to people standing in line...but i decided it was too good to give away so i held a feast and shared it with the other hostel people

-D

Anthony Bondi · Post by **Anthony Bondi** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:37 am

Which PiHKAL in particular are you referring to? While we're on the subject of drifting threads, what's an answer to the global problem of naked guys in t-shirts.? I've been one and I've tried to find a substitute for the t-shirt without success. Speaking of PiiHKAL's, "Just don't do it", is no solution to the problem. I haven't found or seen a good range of solutions between good ol' stark naked and pants. If a new Department of Justice task force doesn't take up this problem, maybe it's a challenge for us.

phoenix13 · Post by **phoenix13** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:52 pm

I was naked only for showers... The problem with having such a fair complexion is that you really can't be naked all that much. There's that whole pesky sun thing for one...

Silver 2 · Post by **Silver 2** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:36 pm

what's an answer to the global problem of naked guys in t-shirts.? I've been one and I've tried to find a substitute for the t-shirt without success.

"substitute for the t-shirt" Enlighten me please! What is the point or use or reason for a t-shirt and no pants. This is one of those little things that that surprised me a BM and that I still have not figured out. I tend to go topless, and keep the dangley bits protected from wear and tear. If is simply to keep your back from getting too much sun I have been known to take off my sarong and tie it as a cape while helping out in the sun for long periods of time.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:36 pm

phoenix13 wrote:I was naked only for showers...

=) me too. But not because I am fair so much. I did run around without a shirt quite a bit and my friends all said, "Man, you got some color dude", and I said, "Anything, but dude~!"

I personally don't feel comfortable running around naked, maybe I need therapy. And that goes for wearing a t-shirt without shorts! lol.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:43 pm

Silver 2 wrote:"substitute for the t-shirt" Enlighten me please! What is the point or use or reason for a t-shirt and no pants...

This is where I need a personal sock to chime in (so I won't have to) and say "Well its a penis thing obviously...guys get a charge out of airing out their wiener and balls but are embarrassed about their upper half's condition thus the t-shirt. Ironic, isn't it?"

I also love the Naked Hours idea, or even a whole day (NAKED FRIDAY!) and hope for warm sunshine. The more people being comfortable with their bare human form the better, and the better they will take of themselves too, perhaps?

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:53 am

naked people on the playa?

what?

i didn't get the memo.

dagnabbit!

Silver 2 · Post by **Silver 2** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:51 am

Tiahaar wrote

guys get a charge out of airing out their wiener and balls but are embarrassed about their upper half's condition thus the t-shirt. Ironic, isn't it?"

I wondered if that was it but the logic of advertising "I'm fat or really hairy and embarressed about it" eludes me. It's kind of like the woman's bathing suits with the skirts, it just states 'fat thighs here' and says it from 100 meters away.

I also love the Naked Hours idea, or even a whole day (NAKED FRIDAY!) and hope for warm sunshine. The more people being comfortable with their bare human form the better, and the better they will take of themselves too, perhaps?

Hushville had Naked Tuesday this year with a fair amount of participation.

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:31 pm

phoenix13 wrote:I was naked only for showers... The problem with having such a fair complexion is that you really can't be naked all that much. There's that whole pesky sun thing for one...

65% of the time its dark!

No excuses!

manditory naked from 9:00 - 10:00pm as well!

A II Z

Apollonaris Zeus · Post by **Apollonaris Zeus** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:34 pm

Apollonaris Zeus wrote:
65% of the time its dark!

Sorry, I meant 35% of the time.

A II Z

Anthony Bondi · Post by **Anthony Bondi** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:16 pm

Walk around naked all day and your shoulders, back, and chest are a lot more likely to burn than the rest of you. That's where most of your body surface is, on top. Probably, you're carrying a pack that's going to chafe a bare back. At the same time, if you've spent a couple days (or months or years) mostly naked, you've stumbled onto the fact that our bodies are very well designed for nudity. Pants especially chafe and make make us hot and sweaty exactly where our bodies are designed to feel best in fresh air. That brings us back to the T-shirt. It's a bad solution, but better than compulsively wearing fabric that is mostly designed as a visual caricature of the genitals most clothing purports to conceal. T-shirts being boring, but upper body covering serving a good purpose, what's a better answer than T-shirts?

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:40 pm

Anthony Bondi wrote:Walk around naked all day and your shoulders, back, and chest are a lot more likely to burn than the rest of you. That's where most of your body surface is, on top. Probably, you're carrying a pack that's going to chafe a bare back. At the same time, if you've spent a couple days (or months or years) mostly naked, you've stumbled onto the fact that our bodies are very well designed for nudity. Pants especially chafe and make make us hot and sweaty exactly where our bodies are designed to feel best in fresh air. That brings us back to the T-shirt. It's a bad solution, but better than compulsively wearing fabric that is mostly designed as a visual caricature of the genitals most clothing purports to conceal. T-shirts being boring, but upper body covering serving a good purpose, what's a better answer than T-shirts?

the short feathered cape

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:08 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:
Anthony Bondi wrote:Walk around naked all day and your shoulders, back, and chest are a lot more likely to burn than the rest of you. That's where most of your body surface is, on top. Probably, you're carrying a pack that's going to chafe a bare back. At the same time, if you've spent a couple days (or months or years) mostly naked, you've stumbled onto the fact that our bodies are very well designed for nudity. Pants especially chafe and make make us hot and sweaty exactly where our bodies are designed to feel best in fresh air. That brings us back to the T-shirt. It's a bad solution, but better than compulsively wearing fabric that is mostly designed as a visual caricature of the genitals most clothing purports to conceal. T-shirts being boring, but upper body covering serving a good purpose, what's a better answer than T-shirts?
the short feathered cape

a light airy sarong

thinkcooper · Post by **thinkcooper** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:10 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
Anthony Bondi wrote:Walk around naked all day and your shoulders, back, and chest are a lot more likely to burn than the rest of you. That's where most of your body surface is, on top. Probably, you're carrying a pack that's going to chafe a bare back. At the same time, if you've spent a couple days (or months or years) mostly naked, you've stumbled onto the fact that our bodies are very well designed for nudity. Pants especially chafe and make make us hot and sweaty exactly where our bodies are designed to feel best in fresh air. That brings us back to the T-shirt. It's a bad solution, but better than compulsively wearing fabric that is mostly designed as a visual caricature of the genitals most clothing purports to conceal. T-shirts being boring, but upper body covering serving a good purpose, what's a better answer than T-shirts?
the short feathered cape
a light airy sarong

Metallic gold banana hammock

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:57 pm

walking around naked with a t shiirt seems akin to wearing socks while naked in bed.

yeah yeah you don't get burned but why do you think they make spf 45

MoisturePup · Post by **MoisturePup** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:06 pm

Sandwichman wrote:Next year you can stand guard at the gate and tell people if they will be allowed to get naked and it will solve all of our problems.

That's an excellent Idea!! We should write an ultimatum to BMorg! If there aren't clothing curaters at the event, and fat people get 10% of gate fees to keep their clothes on, then WE AREN'T GOING TO COME.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:33 pm

So just wear an extra long bIG T-shirt if you must, add a sash around the waist and call it a tunic. Sling a sword over your back for the Ren Faire look.

philosopher · Post by **philosopher** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:28 am

I love the naked people of all ages and shapes. Isn't it a plain fact that they are one of the edges of Burning Man? Just as the costumed folks are an edge? And the judgmental spectators aren't?

Martin Heidegger suggests that a work of art establishes a space in which beings can place themselves and be in relation to others. The naked person does this supremely well, and so should be perceived as a work of art. (On the consequentialist principle that what can be perceived as art should be perceived as art, because existence is thereby enriched.)

It wouldn't matter too much that some people don't appreciate the art of nakedness, except that so many of them seem incapable of keeping their limitations and neuroses to their artless selves. Let them start their own event; they could call it "Whining Man" or "Smirking Man" or something like that. They could even have greeters at the gate who would meet the arriving celebrants with the traditional hail, "Where's Beavis?" And they'd have no problem coming up with a theme every year because it would always be the same: Suburbia. But then again, why bother when the Mall of America is just waiting to be your weekend destination?

Practical note to actiongrl about parents and the "non-in-laws" (mentioned earlier in this thread): When they get infirm and need you to care for them, they will appreciate anything you have done to break down the barriers of compulsive covering up. I speak from experience as someone who laid the groundwork unintentionally a long time ago and have unexpectedly wound up as a long-term care-giver. I'm glad for them now that I took the risk then.

philosopher

Gothalot · Post by **Gothalot** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:22 am

I went naked briefly. I did a patrol with Pantzooka Patrol searching for Donald Ducks. What a blast that was. They shot pants to the guys and girls that were just wearing shirts and no bottoms. That or they would request the liberation of their current shirt and supply sunscreen to the top portions.

uBeRpLaYa · Post by **uBeRpLaYa** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:29 pm

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meandthemissus · Post by **meandthemissus** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:49 pm

Tony is narcisistic. He truly believes that only beautiful people should live. Only those who subscribe to his world view should exist. He believes that only those who can untangle his syntax get to go to heaven, heaven of course being admitted to his circle of friends within the Lotus flower.

meandthemissus · Post by **meandthemissus** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:56 pm

The amount of verbiage tossed out here regarding nudity, not nudity is bizarre. You were born naked get used to it, get over it. I don't picture this thread happening in any civilized country.

Tiahaar · Post by **Tiahaar** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:47 pm

meandthemissus wrote: You were born naked get used to it, get over it.

?? You say that like its a bad thing...
Better yet, embrace it and take care of yourself so you can be proud of being nude anytime you can. It DOES take work and it ain't about being beautiful, just healthy and happy. And it scares the conservatives heheh.

meandthemissus · Post by **meandthemissus** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:16 pm

Tiahaar, Looks like you should turn my post upside down and read it.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:35 pm

meandthemissus wrote:Tony is narcisistic. He truly believes that only beautiful people should live. Only those who subscribe to his world view should exist. He believes that only those who can untangle his syntax get to go to heaven, heaven of course being admitted to his circle of friends within the Lotus flower.

I guess I just eliminated myself from living.

Interesting little comment about Heaven and the Lotus Flower though. Hmm... that makes me wonder. Do I know you? Or did I at one time in my life?

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:17 am

sing along with me...

"Naked and Famous"

I can't explain glacial motion
Or why Los Angeles don't drop into the ocean
I can't unfold the layers of mystery
Or piece together the tragedy of history
'Cuz those lucky suckers, they don't have to work
Big 3-D billboards and big 30-foot Smurfs
And everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wanna be just like me, I'm naked and famous
I met a poet, said she didn't like the smell of it
Then took her clothes off in a restaurant for the hell of it
I met a DJ who lived in seclusion, reality and sobriety were her only delusions
And those lucky bastards, they don't have to work
Big 3-D billboards and big 30-foot Smurfs
And everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wanna be just like me, I'm naked and famous
Woo uh hoo hoo hoo
Wow ah hoo hoo hoo
Well, don't get a nosebleed, don't get upset
We can't be naked and famous just yet
There's a big gold dollar sign on the Sunset Strip
And you can send your friend a postcard, it ain't worth the trip
Everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wanna be just like me I'm naked
Everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wanna be just like me I'm naked
Everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wanna be just like me I'm naked
Wow wow yeah
Ah hoo hoo hoo
Whoo
Everybody wants to be naked and famous
Everybody wants to be just like me I'm naked and famous

Nudity on the Playa

Should have

Thread drift?

upper/lower body

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Tony

and then again

better nude than naked

duh

Re: Tony

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