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BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
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Re: BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
nov 1st 2014.
Elderberry wrote:Hahahahahahahaha good luck with that.![]()
Lonesomebri wrote:The BRCCP recommends all loyal comrades read and sign this petition.
Sure, the org has it's form, the one all the turn-keys hype, you can fill that out and have it buried in private, but here you can have your voice heard out-loud.
https://www.change.org/p/black-rock-cit ... ofit-campsIn the wake of the 2014 Burning Man in Nevada, it is clear that BRC has a problem with what the BMOrg have euphemistically called Turnkey Camps.
The citizens of BRC have been near unanimous in their condemnation of what are better termed 'Commodification Camps', as we can see from the response to two recent PR posts on the Burning Blog.
We now demand some concrete action on the part of the BMOrg, namely:
- That BMOrg create a policy explicitly outlawing Commodification Camps, and make it clear that they are not welcome in our community at all.
- That BMOrg cease providing placement and directed ticket sales for Turnkey camps, with the definition of Turnkey developed in consultation with the Burner community.
- That Jim Tananbaum resign from the board of the Burning Man Project
Simon of the Playa wrote:there will come a day when you have to eat those words, k****.
i'll be there, to make sure you do.
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Which words am I eating now?
Elderberry
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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The words your man JT laid down so eloquently. In fact, you already swallowed.Elderberry wrote:Which words am I eating now?
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Re: A Statement from Jim TananbaumElderberry wrote:Which words am I eating now?
postby Elderberry » Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:57 am
You laughed at the petition and the people supporting it, remember Elderberry? Try, think hard.This thread could continue on ad infinitum with no tangible result. I might suggest that someone with the time, energy, inclination and writing skills, take it upon themselves to put together a petition demanding that either JT resign, or the board fires him. With enough signatures, the board might decide to act, or JT might decide to, for once, do the right thing and resign. (and don't tell me about the principle of doing it myself--radicle what-ever-it-is--I don't care that much. But I do care enough to sign it.)
The more signatures, the louder the voice. Even if nothing came of it, it would be more satisfying to know we took action rather than just venting here.
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I really couldn't care less what I said or felt on did any one particular day. But as long as it gives you something to do, please document everything. In your world, everything is either black or white. In the real world there are lots of colors and shades of grey. Nuance seems just a bit beyond your grasp.
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
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Re: BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
What indeed....
"From each according to their ability and to each according to their needs" - Groucho Marx
if god can kill his only son you should be allowed to kill yours
if god can kill his only son you should be allowed to kill yours
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And at long last when you arrive...
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Santa: BRCCP member in good standing.
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I have to say that absent labor standards for paid on playa staff for survival after quitting or being fired, the Sherpa refugee camp is a good idea. But it is also an experiment that could attract false Sherpas. So looking forward to reports on the results of offering the service after next year's event!
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Offering refuge for the Sherpas; well, to me it is sort of like how the BM Project sees the principles, it's all theater, it is more show and feel goodism than an actual solution to anything other than making me feel good.
I always bring too much food, blankets and supplies, though I am incredibly disorganized. So it's not like I could actually offer any fancy comfort to anyone, it's lucky if I manage to bring all the tent poles, yet I will leave the playa with 10 pounds of food and 20 gallons of water every year. The camp that I was in this year flagged off my corner, even they weren't too sure about being associated with me, so I doubt any fake-sherpa gold-diggers will flock to my cold comforts. I'm not real smart either, or long term goal oriented, so I'm not kidding myself there and thinking beyond performance art, just for myself. Several times I have brought along new people who were supplied by me, in a spartan fashion, so no one starves or dies from exposure on my watch. So I just plan to be a smart ass and offer the refuge to those who look forlorn while I am visiting those camps, lands were Burners used to camp, as a way to high-light that this concept is even needed. And if I get a taker or two, there is an extra can of Dinty Moore at my tent waiting for them.
With my limitations I realize I don't have a solution or a "practical" response to the exploitation and non-unionization of playa boutique hotel maids and bartenders. There is a time and a place for everything and everybody, and finding practical solution for this might not be my time or place here. We all have a part, maybe that is someone elses part to play, maybe there are no solutions, maybe I'll do what I want without worrying too much if it solves problems that others cause, maybe I'll just do my own thing, for me. This is why it is so funny when someone asks me what my solution would be, when I am no one, with no power, no influence, no real say in any decision making, so what I would do is pointless, and a perspective I simply do not have. Here, on playa, in the real world, I am more a tool than the boss. There are smart people here who are detailing responses far better than I could muster. Wasn't there a thread on P&P practices and whatever? For some reason reading that thread always made me hungry.....
All that crap out on L and K and 9, the outliers of Center Camp, the rot from within, the sycophants for the Project, the bs.... So what can I do? Not much, but I know that I can go wade in and taunt folks to go renegade.
I always bring too much food, blankets and supplies, though I am incredibly disorganized. So it's not like I could actually offer any fancy comfort to anyone, it's lucky if I manage to bring all the tent poles, yet I will leave the playa with 10 pounds of food and 20 gallons of water every year. The camp that I was in this year flagged off my corner, even they weren't too sure about being associated with me, so I doubt any fake-sherpa gold-diggers will flock to my cold comforts. I'm not real smart either, or long term goal oriented, so I'm not kidding myself there and thinking beyond performance art, just for myself. Several times I have brought along new people who were supplied by me, in a spartan fashion, so no one starves or dies from exposure on my watch. So I just plan to be a smart ass and offer the refuge to those who look forlorn while I am visiting those camps, lands were Burners used to camp, as a way to high-light that this concept is even needed. And if I get a taker or two, there is an extra can of Dinty Moore at my tent waiting for them.
With my limitations I realize I don't have a solution or a "practical" response to the exploitation and non-unionization of playa boutique hotel maids and bartenders. There is a time and a place for everything and everybody, and finding practical solution for this might not be my time or place here. We all have a part, maybe that is someone elses part to play, maybe there are no solutions, maybe I'll do what I want without worrying too much if it solves problems that others cause, maybe I'll just do my own thing, for me. This is why it is so funny when someone asks me what my solution would be, when I am no one, with no power, no influence, no real say in any decision making, so what I would do is pointless, and a perspective I simply do not have. Here, on playa, in the real world, I am more a tool than the boss. There are smart people here who are detailing responses far better than I could muster. Wasn't there a thread on P&P practices and whatever? For some reason reading that thread always made me hungry.....
All that crap out on L and K and 9, the outliers of Center Camp, the rot from within, the sycophants for the Project, the bs.... So what can I do? Not much, but I know that I can go wade in and taunt folks to go renegade.
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Re: BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
COMRADE, do not underestimate your value.
you have started something.
if you think that you cannot change things you are wrong.
the BRCCP is far more vast and sophisticated than you can possibly imagine..
WE ARE EVERYWHERE and we stand with you.
THE ZEITGEIST IS UP FOR GRABS and we will change the way people think.
it's already happening.
Bravo Lenin, (or trotsky, whatever you want, but i got dibbs on stalin) for starting a massive movement of Culture Toe Jamming
the revolution will be posted, and shared.
you have started something.
if you think that you cannot change things you are wrong.
the BRCCP is far more vast and sophisticated than you can possibly imagine..
WE ARE EVERYWHERE and we stand with you.
THE ZEITGEIST IS UP FOR GRABS and we will change the way people think.
it's already happening.
Bravo Lenin, (or trotsky, whatever you want, but i got dibbs on stalin) for starting a massive movement of Culture Toe Jamming
the revolution will be posted, and shared.
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Re: BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
http://www.theonion.com/articles/humani ... NA:InFocusHumanity Surprised It Still Hasn’t Figured Out Better Alternative To Letting Power-Hungry Assholes Decide Everything
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I only recognized two of the people in those pictures. Do you recognize them all?Lonesomebri wrote:http://www.theonion.com/articles/humani ... NA:InFocusHumanity Surprised It Still Hasn’t Figured Out Better Alternative To Letting Power-Hungry Assholes Decide Everything
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me
Re: BRCCP: Black Rock City Communist Party
Didn't some kid free solo Half Dome?Lonesomebri wrote:No man can succeed alone
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Pretty sure that kid had parents, a support team, friends, etc. which helped him accomplish whatever, but according to the ethos of hierarchy worship that is practiced with regards to Larry, etc, yeah, that kid did it all on his own.Sherpian wrote:Didn't some kid free solo Half Dome?Lonesomebri wrote:No man can succeed alone
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Oh, from the description taken from the article, I recognize them, and how they retain power....Elderberry wrote:I only recognized two of the people in those pictures. Do you recognize them all?Lonesomebri wrote:http://www.theonion.com/articles/humani ... NA:InFocusHumanity Surprised It Still Hasn’t Figured Out Better Alternative To Letting Power-Hungry Assholes Decide Everything
Individuals in every country on earth voiced their frustration that, in spite of generations of mistreatment, neglect, and abuse they have suffered at the hands of those in positions of authority, they continue to allow control over the world’s governments, businesses, and virtually every other type of organization and social group to fall to the most megalomaniacal pricks among them.
“We’ve all seen what this system leads to, so you’d think that by now, someone, somewhere would have sat down and thought up another way to keep our societies functioning without giving all the power to arrogant, amoral dicks whose only concern is improving their own status,” said Mumbai software designer Ankan Rao, one of 7.1 billion humans who conveyed continued surprise that their species has so far proven incapable of formulating a method of governance that was even slightly more tolerable. “Everybody dislikes the people in charge and everybody knows they’re only serving their own personal agendas at the expense of everyone else, but we just keep allowing these jerks to make our decisions time and time again. And it’s not just here—it’s everywhere in the world.”
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That kid did it all on his own. From the moment he first hit the air and cut his own umbilical cord with a knife he made himself.Lonesomebri wrote:Pretty sure that kid had parents, a support team, friends, etc. which helped him accomplish whatever, but according to the ethos of hierarchy worship that is practiced with regards to Larry, etc, yeah, that kid did it all on his own.Sherpian wrote:Didn't some kid free solo Half Dome?Lonesomebri wrote:No man can succeed alone
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Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.
Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri
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