Eplaya Camp 2005

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:50 pm

I need to learn about Evap Ponds if I'm gonna be in a pissing match with Joel.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:17 pm

Oh, stop it! Both of you! put your willies back in your Carhartts.

Geez!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:22 pm

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:31 pm

robbidobbs wrote:Oh, stop it! Both of you! put your willies back in your Carhartts.

Geez!

i did stop.

he keeps bringing up his own personal "deluge"

me, i am working on my aim.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:47 pm

robbidobbs wrote:Oh, stop it! Both of you! put your willies back in your Carhartts.

Geez!

These guys wear Carhartts? Oye Vey!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:40 am

robbidobbs wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote:
robbidobbs wrote: At the end, the participant, if he/she can still walk upright, gets a necklace, laminate, or if they are interested in potties, a scarf. I'm recruiting for shwag-makers right now. PM for details.
What kind of swag? I tend to like to do my own projects, but. . .
That's up to you babe. Anyone up for making an Icon for us?

I prefer shwag that is either a necklace or practical. Lighters are good. So are cups.

Hey! How about "Here's your nice cup of shut the fuck up" glasses. That's just a sticker on a glass with a handle, but it would really be a good shwag. Encourage people to carry around their own glasses rather than just consume disposable ones.

I really like the "Brutal to the Clueless" theme for ePlaya Camp, with the Clue Bowl of couches, and force newbies to prove to us that they have SOME kind of clue before we let them escape.

muah hah hah

Now take off your pants.

I'm likely to be spending 2 weeks in a hotel room in Delano, CA, sometime in the first half of 05 and any project to keep me from climbing the walls should be considered. Necklaces are a given, since I have teh materials already.

Should we check with Badger before adopting his theme?

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:22 am

can we build a plonker and a flame chamber?

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:38 am

Rian Jackson wrote:can we build a plonker and a flame chamber?

You can do anything you want Rian.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:43 am

tonytohono wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:can we build a plonker and a flame chamber?
You can do anything you want Rian.

Please post the blueprints!

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:48 am

Well I got ya plonker right here.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:56 am

tonytohono wrote:
Rian Jackson wrote:can we build a plonker and a flame chamber?
You can do anything you want Rian.

I should add, as far as I am concerned...

But I seriously doubt anyone is going to object to you building a plonker... and or fire chamber

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:16 pm

flame chamber...

love the plonker.

how 'bout a bucket that gets put over the offensive ones head? hee hee!~

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:34 pm

The Fish said: Should we check with Badger before adopting his theme?

My response: Like he'd care?

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:36 pm

i think it's perfect.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:05 pm

The Plonker could be a foam bat, the kind used at Thunderdome. Only the very deserving are to be Plonked, however. Plonking may only occur while in the Clue Pit, as this is usually where the crime is committed. Effort should be given to educate the potential plonkee in the Clue Pit first however.

As to the schwag issue, Fishie, you are welcome to make any kind of schwag your fishy heart desires. Just an idea: some can be Plonks, Clues, Flamethrower icons, socks, etc. If you're into it, I can send you the pic of Pooping Man. Your help on the Pottie Project schwag would be greatly appreciated.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:47 am

theCryptofishist wrote: Anyone up for making an Icon for us?

What are you suggesting oh ye fishy one? This is a great idea... then we can put it on our flag, and also on our name tags, as someone suggested we should have.

I've got this diagram I've been working on, so far it is mostly just a long rectangle that says bar (!), flanked by a totem and a flag pole! lol And of course a small space relegated for tents! (Just kidding people, well, kind of!)

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:49 am

Name tags for the clothed and tattoos for those who prefer nakedness.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:51 am

You do tats Sputnik? Tattoos in the corner?

Might have to keep that under the wraps. Someone told me it was illegal on the playa... any truth to that?

sputnik · Post by **sputnik** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:20 am

I was thinking the temporary kind.

I don't know how doing tats would be illegal on the playa unless you need a state license for such work (which is possible). I certainly wouldn't do it there for a variety of reasons, not the least of which revolves around the state of mind issues.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:09 am

tonytohono wrote: I've got this diagram I've been working on, so far it is mostly just a long rectangle that says bar (!), flanked by a totem and a flag pole! lol And of course a small space relegated for tents! (Just kidding people, well, kind of!)

hey, sweetie - like i said, i already have a diagram...wanna see it? we already did this for cafe village...i can just tweak it for our purposes. no need to reinvent the wheel, ya know!
again - we first need to decide on how big a camp we want to be. the 50x100 space for us was good for about 200 people, but we of course, spent a lot of time in Center Camp. Living/hanging in our camp 24/7 we might need to keep it to a smaller number.

what say y'all?

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:32 am

tisha2 wrote:
hey, sweetie - like i said, i already have a diagram...wanna see it?

...

what say y'all?

Love to see it.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:27 pm

We don't quite know how many people will be involved yet, as it's only November. Sam, are you tracking the population number? Once we have a better idea of numbers, say in mid-summer, we could put together actual space requirements. How soon do we need to commit to space requirements? If it's an issue, we could always move our operations further out. I'm getting keen to the idea of being very visible, esp since this is an official BM message board group. We'll need to hammer out a good theme to get the prime real estate.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:29 pm

robbidobbs wrote:We don't quite know how many people will be involved yet, as it's only November. Sam, are you tracking the population number? Once we have a better idea of numbers, say in mid-summer, we could put together actual space requirements. How soon do we need to commit to space requirements? If it's an issue, we could always move our operations further out. I'm getting keen to the idea of being very visible, esp since this is an official BM message board group. We'll need to hammer out a good theme to get the prime real estate.

We hope to have the number together long before that robbidobbs... like near the ticket sales time. Long before mid summer.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:37 pm

tonytohono wrote:
robbidobbs wrote:We don't quite know how many people will be involved yet, as it's only November. Sam, are you tracking the population number? Once we have a better idea of numbers, say in mid-summer, we could put together actual space requirements. How soon do we need to commit to space requirements? If it's an issue, we could always move our operations further out. I'm getting keen to the idea of being very visible, esp since this is an official BM message board group. We'll need to hammer out a good theme to get the prime real estate.
We hope to have the number together long before that robbidobbs... like near the ticket sales time. Long before mid summer.

My $.02:

you'll need time for people to make arrangements, Tony. You're better off waiting, really. Lots and lots of changes are made in those couple of months before the burn...

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:35 pm

true...but we need some kind of estimate number to decide on space & placement - we need to get our proposal for placement in very early...like early spring.

just a sec, i'll go find out fer sure...

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:43 pm

check it. i was, like, sooo wrong!:

(from http://burningman.com/themecamps_installations/)
(bolding is mine)

THEMECAMPS

Questionnaires due by July 1st.

"Theme camps are the interactive core of Burning Man." Harley K. DuBois, Burning Man's HR Amazon, hesitated a second. "I hate to call this a rule, but if I have to have one it's simple: A theme camp must be participatory." It's a playful challenge to the vast reductive desert landscape, an expansion of the infectious celebratory nature of the event. "The camps keep getting bigger and better, more thought-out and polished. But," she spoke firmly now, "you always welcome anybody and everybody." We offer some guidelines to help you plan your project.

Your theme camp should create an ambience, a visual presence, in some way provide a communal space or provide activity. It may be the anchor for a larger event taking place. The best camps succeed by simplicity. Concepts that are too big, like scholarly attempts to debunk complex social theory or Titanic-length storytelling arcs, will die from disinterest. Harley shrugs and says, "People walk in and they just don't get it."

More specific pitfalls await the unprepared. Humorist H. Allen Smith notes that the scariest of all the distressing words in the English language is "uh-oh". Pay full respect to the open desert, a harsh environment that punishes presumption. Design safety into your plans. No natural structures exist to block the force of 40 MPH gusting winds across the hardpan flats. The heat is oppressive, electrical storms are common, and dust storms can affect sensitive equipment. Rain can turn a fun(ky) miniature golf course into a mud wallow, and anything on wheels becomes a site-specific display if it's too heavy to push through thick paste.

All your needs must be thoroughly thought through to make your camp completely autonomous. This includes power, water and building equipment. Be prepared to haul everything out that you've brought in. Or if your camp is to be burned, be prepared to clean up any debris left over, including screws and nails. And (seriously) all cigarette butts. The managing principle of Black Rock City is LEAVE NO TRACE.

If you wish to advertise your camp or event, you may publicize your plans on the Burning Man website in our bulletin of registered theme camps. You may also discuss plan ideas and recruit help on the Eplaya Bulletin Board and also submit your planned event to the Playa Calendar for inclusion in the WhatWhereWhen, the on-playa event program.

When advertising on-playa, please remember that Burning Man attendees are Homo sapiens and not marsupials; a naked person has no pockets to stash flyers. Flyers are an unintentional cause of trash problems, but stickers or body stamps are a more practical option.

To secure your placement in Black Rock City you must purchase your tickets. There are some factors however that will affect your placement: Will people be passing through 24 hours a day or just at limited times of the day? Is the camp intended for daytime or nighttime activity? Are you planning to burn your camp? Do you prefer or require relatively peaceful surroundings?

Our Theme Camp & Village Resource Guide offers generous hints for preparing and executing Camp, Village, Installation or Performance, with the advice of veterans with practical experience. In the end, though, your success truly relies on plain resolve to make your theme camp work. Securing your Structure should be read for those considering any significant building.

Each year, for a few months before Burning Man, the Theme Camp and Village Questionnaire will be available on this site for a limited period of time. If you'd like to receive a reserved spot for your theme camp you'll need to fill out the questionnaire so you can be properly placed. If you do not wish for your Theme Camp to be pre-placed at the event, you do not need to fill out the questionnaire.

"The understanding that Theme Camps truly are the fabric of Burning Man is now common knowledge," says Harley. "It is a responsibility and takes commitment. Remember that what YOU do helps to create what this year IS!"
THEMECAMPS (available links)
2004 theme camps & villages
creating a village
planning your village
securing your structure
resource guide
theme camp criteria
theme camp & village questionnaire

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:56 pm

I think I found something to serve drinks out of:

Wadda' ya think? It's your bar, Tisha... might be cool...

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:30 pm

you are truly i sick fucker.

i *love* that.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:32 pm

1 sick fucker...that's supposed to be 1 sick fucker.

sheesh.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:36 pm

The themecamp post is great. Thank you Tisha.

Since we seem to have differing opinions on when we should create, and or close the list of who is included in the camp, maybe we should try figuring out how big we want this thing to be, and then after knocking that around a bit, take some kind of vote.

Then we could set up a first come first serve list with actual camp placements. Just a few thoughts.

Samtzu... I got an interesting message from silver and his ideas seemed pretty realistic to me. Have you seen them?