Confused at selling tickets above face value??

[JoliedeVivre]

I am confused as to why this forum which is obviously moderated by BM is allowing people to sell tickets for a profit? I thought that was against the ethics of BM and not something that would be permitted on here? Yet I see that people are offering and selling single tickets for nearly $1k and no one says a word?

[gaminwench]

The pre-sale tickets were $800 + fees.

[maladroit]

It's OK to overcharge for tickets as long as BMORG did it first.

[Sham]

The idea of the pre-sale tickets were at one point to be sold for Christmas gifts. It then became a more expensive ticket sold before the general stampede.

[Eric]

People are absolutely not allowed to sell tickets above face value here - that's clearly stated in the Ticket Sellers/ Buyers Read Me at the top of both Ticket forums. It can only be face value +fees, but there are two tiers of tickets - "pre-sale" at $800 ea, regular sale at $390 ea. So far only pre-sale tickets have been offered, plus this is the slowest activity we've ever had on the "Offered" forum.

[digital]

Once again, a perfect example of the benefit of one tier pricing for tickets. Get rid of presale. Get rid of LI. One price. Rich or poor there should be one price for entry to BM. Period.

[GreyCoyote]

I am confused as to why this forum which is obviously moderated by BM is allowing people to sell tickets for a profit? I thought that was against the ethics of BM and not something that would be permitted on here? Yet I see that people are offering and selling single tickets for nearly $1k and no one says a word?

A single ticket (pre-sale), plus fees, overnight shipping and a vehicle pass puts you squarely at the 1k mark. But sometimes folks will "pretend" they have a pre-sale ticket when they actually have a regular ticket. If you know of this happening, flag the post and let a mod know (so the post goes away) and let ticketing know so they have the option (or not) of pulling the ticket.

The old burner mantra is a bit crude, but its apt: "face value or fuck off".

[Meat Hunter]

To make sure that the ticket that you are purchasing on the open market is priced correctly, the original price of the ticket (as it was purchased from BM) is printed on the back of the ticket.

[Elderberry]

Interesting first post. Let me see if I can guess. You have been trying to buy a ticket on the open market and they were all ridiculously over priced. So you come here, expecting to find a bargain, but don't understand that some tickets sell at the $800.00 mark and the first thing you do is accuse people here of selling at a profit.

Hmmm....I wonder what that will do for your odds of getting a ticket when you post in the tickets wanted forum?

Just sayin'.

Personally speaking of course.

[trilobyte]

Welcome to the site. As others have pointed out, tickets are not being sold for more than face value plus fees. If you had read the ticket information that was posted, you would have seen that a number of pre-sale tickets were sold at a higher price. What you are seeing listed on the boards (so far) are pre-sale tickets.

They tend to turn up first through a combination of the pre-sale tickets (which were sold first) being shipped out first, and some of those people having found a ticket at a less expensive price, and so they're selling off the pre-sale ticket they bought.

[FlyingMonkey]

Welcome to the site. As others have pointed out, tickets are not being sold for more than face value plus fees. If you had read the ticket information that was posted, you would have seen that a number of pre-sale tickets were sold at a higher price. What you are seeing listed on the boards (so far) are pre-sale tickets.

They tend to turn up first through a combination of the pre-sale tickets (which were sold first) being shipped out first, and some of those people having found a ticket at a less expensive price, and so they're selling off the pre-sale ticket they bought.

Unfortunately, looking at Shlub hub, many who bought VPs who later found out they didn't need them has created a huge secondary market. Of course you have to be a little suspicious when someone lists a VP for $1,107,005.20 (the extra $5.20 is just being greedy). I know it's been asked but I don't know if I have seen it answered (Ok, I haven't looked that hard), what happens to someone who scores a ticket but no VP? Walk in?

[trilobyte]

No, walk-ins are not permitted to the event (and never have been). Also, there is no event parking in Gerlach, and there is no parking/abandoning a vehicle either at the gate or on gate road. Vehicles heading to the gate need to have a vehicle pass, or risk having the entire vehicle (and all its passengers) turned away and sent back to Reno.

Those looking for vehicle passes should pay attention to the upcoming OMG sale, or consider options such as the rideshare board or Burner Express bus.

[JoliedeVivre]

@Elderberry There really is no reason for you to be so mean and condescending. I haven't posted in the Wanted section and I clearly stated that I was confused. I am not "hoping to find a bargain" just trying to get tickets. Being sarcastic and rude is not necessary.

Thank you to those (Like Grey Coyote, Eric, Meat Hunter and others) who kindly took time to explain the price difference and why this was being permitted. It is greatly appreciated.

Yes I am desperate for tickets and want to go more than anything. I am deeply saddened by the obvious scalping that is going on with other sites and then was confused by (what appeared to be) the same thing happening here. My sincere apologies if I have offended the BM community by my naiveté, it was not intended.

Anyways, I will continued to envision myself on the Playa and will manifest my way there.

Thanks,
Jolie

[Meat Hunter]

Jolie,

Yup. Scalping is a very bad thing -- A real no-no.

I really fear for those who pay scalper prices, especially when the scalper is reported, the ticket is cancelled and the poor soul arrives at the gate only to find that their tickets have been cancelled, But, that is the chance that they take when they feed the scalpers. Some might make it through the gate with scalped tickets, but some will not.

For me, I am not going to feed the scalpers --

I am of the opinion that BM sells tickets at several price points so that the population of Black Rock City will be as representative of the world population as it can be.

Good luck in your search for a correctly priced ticket. If you cannot make it this year, keep the faith and come on back with a vengeance next year.

If in doubt of the original price of a ticket, look on the back of the ticket, the selling price will be (or was) printed in the lower portion of the ticket in Black Ink.