Eplaya Camp 2005

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:08 am

I have just created a tribe on tribe.net for the eplaya camp 2005. If you want to join it PM me your email and I will add you.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:34 am

would it be to obscure of a parody to print up bumper stickers that read

Larry said it I believe it that settles it

No see it's suppose to be a funny play on the Christian bumper sticker and sort of laugh at ourselves at the same time.

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:42 am

Zulegoona wrote:would it be to obscure of a parody to print up bumper stickers that read

Larry said it I believe it that settles it

No see it's suppose to be a funny play on the Christian bumper sticker and sort of laugh at ourselves at the same time.

It would actually be perfect!

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:47 am

robbidobbs wrote:The Fish said: Should we check with Badger before adopting his theme?

My response: Like he'd care?

"Sokay, I've never met him, so I have to rely on SOP instead of specific knowledge.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:50 am

robbidobbs wrote:As to the schwag issue, Fishie, you are welcome to make any kind of schwag your fishy heart desires. Just an idea: some can be Plonks, Clues, Flamethrower icons, socks, etc. If you're into it, I can send you the pic of Pooping Man. Your help on the Pottie Project schwag would be greatly appreciated.

Ooh, ooh, Sock Puppet Schwag. How Excellent. Maybe even a "Make your own Sock" project. Dang, no more cutting up old socks into makeshift sponges. Hubba, hubba.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:54 am

tonytohono wrote:
theCryptofishist wrote: Anyone up for making an Icon for us?
What are you suggesting oh ye fishy one?

Hm. Based on the graphics on this site--no. Hm. If anybody sketches out anything good, please post.

tonytohono wrote:This is a great idea... then we can put it on our flag, and also on our name tags, as someone suggested we should have.

If someone could download our avatars to put on the name tags--although mine, sensei's and other animated ones might want to be changed. . .

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:00 am

tonytohono wrote:Since we seem to have differing opinions on when we should create, and or close the list of who is included in the camp, maybe we should try figuring out how big we want this thing to be, and then after knocking that around a bit, take some kind of vote.

I've already said that I'll defer to you and Sam since you are doing the heavy lifting. It's important to listen to needs and ideas, but at some point you've got to have a dictator. (Benevolent, of course.) The distance factor, the time factor, usw. I think it's important to find the core group and then make sure that they have enthusiasm so they will keep going. This sounds like I'm dumping all the work on the self-identified core--and I sort of am, but if they aren't Idiots that's okay so long as the rest of us do take up slack and if both the core and the outliers have consistent enthusiasm and work towards it.

I'm not stating my case very well, but this might be a case where Homer "Democracy doesn't work" Simpson may be right.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:01 am

samtzu wrote:
Zulegoona wrote:would it be to obscure of a parody to print up bumper stickers that read

Larry said it I believe it that settles it

No see it's suppose to be a funny play on the Christian bumper sticker and sort of laugh at ourselves at the same time.
It would actually be perfect!

2nd that. I hate those bumperstickers. Chills down the spine.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:03 pm

I did this for a quick logo on tribes... but it IS NOT anything serious. Just a place holder. Anyway, who has an idea is welcome to submit it.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:05 pm

you can add an *ever* wherever you think it might fit =)

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:47 pm

tonytohono wrote:I did this for a quick logo on tribes... but it IS NOT anything serious. Just a place holder. Anyway, who has an idea is welcome to submit it.

actually Tony, lots of people who learn english later in life would say who instead of whoever. you made me feel right at home!

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:52 pm

A theme camp must be participatory
Your theme camp should create an ambience, a visual presence, in some way provide a communal space or provide activity.
The best camps succeed by simplicity.
Design safety into your plans.
All your needs must be thoroughly thought through to make your camp completely autonomous. This includes power, water and building equipment.

So far we have The Bar, The Clue Pit, and the Become Your Own Sock Hop Area. Over time I'm sure we'll evolve these like the mutants that they are.Pretty fucking "participatory" so far, the theme "simple" and definitely "provides activity". The "communal space" is covered, perfect for the necking activities

The "core" group of us are pretty good grown-ups, and know that it's not the 40mph wind that we need to prepare for so much as the 80mph DIRT STORMS that we need extra bungees for. Over the winter we can hammer out designs to submit (cringe!) to meet the camp's "automomous" clause. Tony and Tisha, you seem to have this under control.

We can expect a wild and whooly summer, where new ePlaya friends can/will be made. That said, February/March, after the tickets go on sale, sounds like a good time to give Final Notice. Sam has been so kind to do that kind of bookkeeping.

At this point, I'm truly looking forward to living with you mutants. It's been kind of lonely for a while. A carefully worded reminder re my participation at camp: I work full time, day shift. So do a lot of us. I'll do what I can. Feed me beer when I get off shift please.

And if Harley is advertising that ePlaya is a perfect place for other camps to hammer out plans, and recruit participants, then that's GOT to count toward our chances of prime real-estate, eh? Hey, it's US who are the humans who have to answer all their stoopid questions year-round.

But doesn't it make you feel "superior"?

RobbiDobbs clear

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:30 pm

Like I was saying, we now have a tribe listing. If you want to join you may check it out here:

http://eplayacamp2005.tribe.net/

Or send me a PM.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:39 pm

With all due humility, isn't having an alternative message board for organizing a group of message board participants kind of like trying to herd cats by leaving the door open?

I like the icon a lot though Tony.

GuinivereElise · Post by **GuinivereElise** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:48 pm

robbidobbs wrote:With all due humility, isn't having an alternative message board for organizing a group of message board participants kind of like trying to herd cats by leaving the door open?

My very thoughts.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:07 pm

The problem with this board is that if you want to send a message to everyone in your group you have to hope they will be there, or just happen to see it the next time they decide to show up. You do not have to do that on tribe website as I am sure you are all aware... You send the message and it doesn't get bogged down by 13 pages of useless fluff.

The other thing is that no one is blind to whom is involved. Everyone can see exactly who is interested and there is no wondering if you are the only one who actually believes this thing is worth participating in. I don't think that is such a bad idea. Do you?

I'm not bugged by your question robbi - I expected it, just not from someone who actually wanted to join.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:27 pm

<shrug>

What the hell. It's your art project.

Rian Jackson · Post by **Rian Jackson** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:29 pm

GuinivereElise wrote:
robbidobbs wrote:With all due humility, isn't having an alternative message board for organizing a group of message board participants kind of like trying to herd cats by leaving the door open?

My very thoughts.

my main problem with it is that i won't/can't have time to check ANOTHER message board... and i've been resisting the tribe shit thus far.

we'll see if i get over myself or not.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:32 pm

robbidobbs wrote:<shrug>

What the hell. It's your art project.

That's not right robbi.

I give up.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:26 pm

Art in any form is to be respected, admired, inspired upon, and then I go back to work. Just like on the real Playa. Nuthin personal, but I too have resisted getting sucked into another board. I'll see posts only as they hit my mailbox. I'm a member of the Cult of Rodent on Tribe btw. Non-participating member I must add.

Back to our regularly scheduled bs session with regards to preparation:
I like the Icon you made Tony. Would like to eventually see it as a pendant/Laminate. Or a keen flag. I just bought a Pirate flag, to wave proudly at my camp. I'm also seriously considering spray painting a Pooping Man Flag (since the orig design was made with MS Paint spraypaint feature).

I like the socks idea too Fish. Maybe run a few up the flagpole with the other avatars. There's a participatory art project that's easy to do: spray paint and some old sheets. People can make their own Avatars to take back to their camp. It would need to be playa-safe, so spraypainting could be done on the Sock Hop plywood dance floor by day. Make for an interesting dancefloor by event-end.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:25 pm

NP... it's not like anyone is being forced to join... but it is an option if they are interested. The membership is open, and for tribe members all they have to do is click to join. No stress.

I can understand if people do not want to fill out a few forms to join another possible source of spam. Or if they do not wish to click an extra link once a week, or something. That's a lot of work, and a lot of time. <snicker snicker>

But I am going to stress that the project is not mine. If I thought it was going to be that way I wouldn't be interested. And it is not my art project either. Just something I hope to participate in. The art projects will come later, and will hopefully contribute to the atmosphere.

As far as stuff like badges and all of that stuff. Yeah, I can do that. I do that for a living... design, layout, printing. Just like the t-shirts I am bringing out for the people I do shoots with. That stuff is all for fun. And I'll do as much of it as I can.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:30 pm

tonytohono wrote:The problem with this board is that if you want to send a message to everyone in your group you have to hope they will be there, or just happen to see it the next time they decide to show up. You do not have to do that on tribe website as I am sure you are all aware... You send the message and it doesn't get bogged down by 13 pages of useless fluff.

You know something, This point needs to be put in the eplaya suggestion box.

tisha2 · Post by **tisha2** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:20 pm

Tonytohono wrote:That's a lot of work, and a lot of time. <snicker snicker>

well, fuck you, too.

seems to me that this is 'eplaya camp', yah? not 'tribe camp'. makes sense that we communicate on eplaya.

and it only takes a couple seconds to click from page to page to see all the posts. which for some, maybe, is easier than a whole new personality and board to keep up with. not necessarily a weakness of time or effort, thank you very much.

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:28 pm

tisha2 wrote:
Tonytohono wrote:That's a lot of work, and a lot of time. <snicker snicker>
well, fuck you, too.

Thank you very much.

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:52 pm

Evil Rob's contribution to a logo.

Zulegoona · Post by **Zulegoona** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:54 pm

That's hilarious Rob!

tonytohono · Post by **tonytohono** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:59 pm

laughing my ass off Rob...

Thanks man, that is great. Fuck, I thought I was going to die there for a minute.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:04 pm

I wonder if Burningman will let us use the font type for the icon sign of eplaya camp?

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:11 am

Oh my gawd, Rob, that's funnier than shit!

This MUST occur, although as an "icon" it's a bit complex, but if you want to print (spray paint or otherwise) the caption onto blank flag, that would be a good addition to our growing collection of flag ideas.

Sewing buttons onto socks is just so fucking DO-ABLE, it's making my toes wiggle. What a great schwag concept!

zahl right? zahl right.. Now gimme kiss

Rob the Wop · Post by **Rob the Wop** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:27 am

Why not make everyone bring a sock puppet to the Eplaya Meet and Greet? The 4 Sock Puppets of the Apocalypse?

Eplaya Camp 2005

Dissecting Harley