bisexuality

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:17 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:bump.
while you are at it, you could send them a notice about their missing avatar.

DVD, you civic-minded e-playa sock

Why thank you Joel.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:35 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:bump.
while you are at it, you could send them a notice about their missing avatar.

DVD, you civic-minded e-playa sock
Why thank you Joel.

so, DVD, what about your bisexuality?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:05 pm

Me buy sex? Never tried it.

Not into making anyone feel beneath me.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:06 pm

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:07 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Not into making anyone feel beneath me.

yes, that might take effort.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:22 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:Not into making anyone feel beneath me.
yes, that might take effort.

and can be taken so many ways

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:27 pm

SilkenTofu wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:Not into making anyone feel beneath me.
yes, that might take effort.
and can be taken so many ways

as it was meant to

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:37 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
SilkenTofu wrote:
Simply Joel wrote: yes, that might take effort.
and can be taken so many ways
as it was meant to

I think that fills every detail.

Just by chance though, it would just happen that this thread gets resurrected just before the controversy of Alexander the great.

You know something, I did'nt know that. Ya learn something knew everyday.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:45 pm

DVD Burner wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
SilkenTofu wrote: and can be taken so many ways
as it was meant to
I think that fills every detail.

Just by chance though, it would just happen that this thread gets resurrected just before the controversy of Alexander the great.

You know something, I did'nt know that. Ya learn something knew everyday.

"the controversy of Alexander the Great?"

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:57 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
DVD Burner wrote:
Simply Joel wrote: as it was meant to
I think that fills every detail.

Just by chance though, it would just happen that this thread gets resurrected just before the controversy of Alexander the great.

You know something, I did'nt know that. Ya learn something knew everyday.
"the controversy of Alexander the Great?"

Yeah. I really did'nt know.

SilkenTofu · Post by **SilkenTofu** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:15 pm

Oliver Stone threatened with lawsuit over Alexander
20 November 2004

ATHENS: A group of Greek lawyers are threatening to sue Warner Bros film studios and Oliver Stone, director of the widely anticipated film Alexander, for suggesting Alexander the Great was bisexual.

The lawyers have already sent an extrajudicial note to the studio and director demanding they include a reference in the title credits saying his movie is a fictional tale and not based on official documents of the life of the Macedonian ruler.

"We are not saying that we are against gays but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander," Yannis Varnakos, who spearheads the campaign by 25 lawyers, said on Friday.

Stone was quoted on the MSNBC.com website as telling the upcoming edition of Playboy magazine that the film's depiction of Alexander could offend some.

"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing," he was quoted as saying.

While the film starring Colin Farrell and Angelina Jolie will be released on November 24, Varnakos said he has already gathered enough information regarding the content of the movie to suggest there are "inappropriate references".

"We have not seen the film but from the information we have already there are references to his alleged homosexuality, a fact that is in no historical document or archive on Alexander," he said. "Either they make it clear that this is a work of fiction or we will take the case further."

This is not the first time Greeks have been angered by suggestions Alexander was homosexual and had affairs with young men.

Two years ago hundreds of northern Greeks from the province of Macedonia, where he was born, stormed an archaeological symposium after one speaker presented a paper on the homosexuality of Alexander. Police were called in to evacuate the participants.

One of the greatest military leaders of all time, Alexander, who was never defeated in battle, conquered about 90 per cent of the then-known world before his mysterious death at the age of 32, building an empire that stretched from the Mediterranean to Afghanistan.

Varnakaos said as Stone has the right to freely express himself, the audience should have the right to know.

"We cannot come out and say that (former US) President John F. Kennedy was a shooting guard for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and so Warner cannot come out and say Alexander was gay," Varnakos said.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:48 pm

Now see, I told ya that bisexuals have more fun and more creative.

theCryptofishist · Post by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:13 am

And apparently are better at taming horses.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:12 am

DVD Burner wrote:Now see, I told ya that bisexuals have more fun and more creative.

anecdotal evidence, i presume.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:30 pm

It's interesting that this discussion about a dead ruler's sexuality would cause all this hub-bub, yet a 2 hour flick on this dude getting his skin flayed from his skin causes self-professed "christians" to weep in joy. Like Trey Parker said in South Park: Passion is a snuff flick.

It's ok for teenage girls to watch two people kill each other, but it's not ok for them to watch people make love. This said with a bow toward the grave of Lenny Bruce... who is dead now.

Hmmmm. It's one fucked up culture we're in the middle of, kids.

shitmouse · Post by **shitmouse** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:03 pm

when i was younger i used to chalk up bisexuality basically as "horny".
i've grown up since then.
-b

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:46 pm

As a recovered "closet case" I'm not sure how to handle this alternative definition.
I can say that our culture's ideas about bisexuality are deeply flawed by our culture's acceptance of girl-on-girl action and (sometimes violent) aversion to the boy-on-boy version.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:52 pm

This culture is fucked up in too many ways to count.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:53 pm

And dont anyone tell me that it still is the best place on earth to live. There are many places that are great to live on this planet.

samtzu · Post by **samtzu** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:00 pm

DVD Burner wrote:And dont anyone tell me that it still is the best place on earth to live. There are many places that are great to live on this planet.

Beeeeeeeeeeeep!!

Wrong..

Been there, done that .... some places in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, maybe....

No.... this is still the greatest as far as I can tell....

There is still, no matter what anyone says, the greatest place for diversity...

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:21 pm

You are entitled to your opinion. I get treated royal everywhere outside of the states. The states is the only place I get treated like shit. My money stretches longer, I get better living quarters outside of the states, more modern facilities, better electronics...........man I'm starting to get depressed.

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:23 pm

Better sex .........Now I'm really depressed.

Burningman has been my only reason for being here.

cowboyangel · Post by **cowboyangel** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:23 pm

does this include your dog?

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:25 pm

cowboyangel wrote:does this include your dog?

Hey hey hey now.....there's a thread for that.

robbidobbs · Post by **robbidobbs** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:36 pm

DVD Burner wrote:This culture is fucked up in too many ways to count.

<announcer>
The following is the opinion of the speaker, and does not reflect the opinions of this message bored or its affiliates

<RobbiDobbs>
Which reminds me of something that Samtzu once said: that lack of enlightenment is only a concern to the enlightened. Let's focus on keeping what little slack we have. The current administration is trying to take away our hard earned freedoms. To plagiarize a phrase: This will not stand.

We have a vastly more diverse culture-set than other countries. And we don't have riots during elections like some countries. This is because we are fat, dumb and happy. Cultural Imperialism, and We're on Top!

We have come a long way from the level of racism that our country once suffered. Sure there are some setbacks, and we need to continue the Good Fight. Still as a mish-mosh of cultures, the level of homogeneity (sp?) we have is a luxury because of the omnipresence of the television. Corporatism, enculturated into us from the moment of birth, engeanders the ruling class' distractions, puting the mass public to sleep, so they can acquire more power.

It's time to wake up, People.

as in "We the People"

[/end blathering]

DVD Burner · Post by **DVD Burner** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:46 pm

Well I tell ya, Bisexuallity is not as much of an issue in most places outside of the states.

Simply Joel · Post by **Simply Joel** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:09 am

robbidobbs wrote:It's interesting that this discussion about a dead ruler's sexuality would cause all this hub-bub, yet a 2 hour flick on this dude getting his skin flayed from his skin causes self-professed "christians" to weep in joy. Like Trey Parker said in South Park: Passion is a snuff flick.

It's ok for teenage girls to watch two people kill each other, but it's not ok for them to watch people make love. This said with a bow toward the grave of Lenny Bruce... who is dead now.

Hmmmm. It's one fucked up culture we're in the middle of, kids.

the underlined comment above...

that issue was discussed in one of my sociology classes over 20 years ago...

i do think it is odd that violent films are more acceptable than films with sex....

and for the record, i haven't seen the Mel Gibson's passion or Michael Moore's last two films.

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:13 am

Hey, maybe if we teach kids more violence and less sex, together they'll cap overpopulation...

Just a thought.
One I had while having a martini first thing in the morning.

Sensei · Post by **Sensei** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:34 pm

While the Capt.'s foul mood (let's let those martinis settle before we make the final call) portends a rough sailing this evening, this is the Bisexuality thread and Sensei is in a very loving and appreciative mood...

And I would really appreciate it if you would let Sensei make the hot monkey love to each and every one of you mofos.

Who's first?

Captain Goddammit · Post by **Captain Goddammit** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:36 pm

Goddammit Sensei, when I say you can bite me, that's NOT what I mean!