dude went from zero to 60 in one drink and then just straight up crashed. Poor guy.Sandwichman wrote:It just means you are old now.DVD Burner wrote:Ok......so like......this so far is the wierdest south park I've ever seen.
Not making much sense. I guess there is a first for everything.
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well I only got up to Timmy setting his Turkey "Gobble" away and that's where it got a little wierd for me.Zulegoona wrote:dude went from zero to 60 in one drink and then just straight up crashed. Poor guy.Sandwichman wrote:It just means you are old now.DVD Burner wrote:Ok......so like......this so far is the wierdest south park I've ever seen.
Not making much sense. I guess there is a first for everything.
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Then I got ADD and just forgot about it.
I'll wait for the re run.
Is there any scotch?
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Yes, and you could use really cheap vodka if you do this to itCaptain Goddammit wrote:Could I just use vodka?
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Dood, that is a great site. For a bunch of diffrent reasons. mostly open source. thanks.sputnik wrote:Yes, and you could use really cheap vodka if you do this to itCaptain Goddammit wrote:Could I just use vodka?
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bon appetit' everyone.
i am highlighting the recipes that shound tasty... and make me hungry.
enjoy the holiday.
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November 25, 2004
Turkey Is Basic, but Immigrants Add Their Homeland Touches
By KIM SEVERSON
PATERSON, N.J. - For all those struggling to get Thanksgiving dinner on the table, consider the plight of Yaser Baker, a restaurateur in this city's Arabic shopping district.
First Mr. Baker had to find a turkey that was slaughtered according to Islamic dietary law, a challenge because some local halal butchers decided not to sell turkeys this year. Then he had to adapt the traditional American recipe to Arabic tastes, which meant bathing it in lemon and olive oil and stuffing it with rice, beef and pine nuts.
Finally he had to brace for reaction from his Muslim neighbors, some of whom are either too devout or too upset about the war in Iraq even to acknowledge Thanksgiving.
But for Mr. Baker, Thanksgiving is all about the bird.
"Believe me, I don't look at it as an American holiday or a holiday that is not for Muslims," said Mr. Baker, a Palestinian and naturalized American who has been in the United States for 24 years. "I live in America. You tell me to eat turkey, I'm going to eat turkey."
The desire to celebrate Thanksgiving was so strong for Leticia Maravilla, a Mexican immigrant, that she roasted her first turkey before she had her green card, struggling through a newspaper recipe in English.
"I wanted to do it the same way Americans did it," she said, speaking from Los Angeles though an interpreter.
Ms. Maravilla ended up with the most American of problems. The breast meat was bone dry. Now, with several Thanksgivings under her belt, she has the culinary conundrum solved. Ms. Maravilla will simmer her turkey on the stove with garlic and onions before she roasts it, a little tip from her mother in Mexico City.
Thanksgiving, which began as a party for immigrants, remains the most accessible American holiday for many newcomers. It requires no specific religious or political allegiance. Even if an immigrant is from a culture where whole roast turkey is never on the menu - and that is nearly everywhere except North America - most are willing to give it a try.
"Turkey has become so iconic to our mythic heritage that by cooking that turkey, even if you don't like it, you are part of something bigger," said Lucy Long, a professor of popular culture at Bowling Green State University and the author of "Culinary Tourism" (University Press of Kentucky, 2003). "You are symbolically showing unity."
Of course that translates into a nation of cross-cultural Thanksgivings, where sticky rice stuffing edges out corn bread, and curry fights with gravy for dominance on overloaded plates.
Fernando Rojas, an immigration lawyer in Miami, came to the United States from Colombia with his family when he was a boy. His wife, Jeanette Martinez, is Puerto Rican. They will share their Thanksgiving meal with his Cuban and Colombian godparents. The critical mass of Latin cultures means a spread that could put Manhattan's best fusion chefs to shame: roast turkey rubbed with garlicky adobo sauce, served alongside plantains, roast pork and platters of black beans and rice.
"When you come to this country, Thanksgiving is something that you just kind of adopt right way," Mr. Rojas said. "You can relate to the mythology of the Pilgrims' coming here and the Indians' helping them out, just like your relatives are helping you out."
But Thanksgiving can be baffling for some newcomers, who struggle to understand an entire day dedicated to eating a large bird. This year, for example, about 150 Somalian Bantu refugees celebrated an early Thanksgiving on Nov. 20 at a church in Tucson, grateful for a chance at a new life but puzzled by a country whose favorite holiday foods they can barely choke down.
Thanksgiving is tough to sell to the Bantus, an ethnic minority who were forced into refugee camps in Kenya, said Mahmoud Abib, a Somalian caseworker with the International Rescue Committee in Tucson.
"We explain to them that they have been through hell for the last 12 years, and they have finally come to a place where they are free," Mr. Abib said. "We say this is giving thanks to the host country that brought them out of that misery."
Luckily the turkey resembles a large, low-flying bird that Mr. Abib said the Bantu hunt. But the Bantu would rather boil the turkey into soup than roast it.
At another early Thanksgiving celebration for refugees, in Decatur, Ga., members of Jewish, Muslim and Christian congregations introduced refugees from eight countries to the concept of Thanksgiving. Bantus and Liberians shared food with Afghans and Sudanese. Safar Fadel, an Afghan, who arrived in the United States in 2000, was there to walk brand-new arrivals through the meal. He remembers his first Thanksgiving and the outpouring of support from people who offered his family food and even clothing.
"I recommend it to any refugee," he said through an interpreter. "It is a beautiful feeling."
The Thanksgiving message is universal, said Ellen Beattie, who runs the International Rescue Committee office that helped arrange the dinner Mr. Fadel attended. "I don't think there is a culture in the world where the concept of sitting down and eating together is not understood," she said.
But the finer points of the holiday are easily lost on many immigrant parents, who are often introduced to Thanksgiving when their children come home from school with recipes and construction-paper turkeys.
"It's an odd holiday for some families," said Makalé Faber, who manages school programs for City Lore, a group in Manhattan dedicated to preserving New York's cultural heritage. "The children have Thursday off to eat a turkey? They don't even know what a turkey is."
Children can be strident about wanting a turkey dinner that looks just like the one all the other kids have, she said. Ms. Faber, whose father is from Guinea, knows the feeling firsthand. "We ended up making a stew with turkey legs," she said. "I of course threw a fit because it wasn't American."
Some immigrants will not celebrate at all. Perhaps 20 percent of the Muslims in Paterson, the most devout, recognize only Muslim holidays, said Hani Awadallah, the president of the Arab American Civic Organization here. Mr. Baker, who will cook half a dozen turkeys for customers at his restaurant, Al Basha, and one for his own family for Thanksgiving, agreed, adding that perhaps half the Muslims in the Paterson area would eat turkey for the holiday. Thirty percent more will get together with family but will not prepare the traditional meal, he said.
One who will not observe the tradition is Shar Rabbo, owner of Nablus Sweets and Pastries on Main Street. He will stay open for the holiday. The Iraq war weighs on his customers. "Let's face it, it has dampened Thanksgiving this year," he said.
For people from other cultures the reasons for not celebrating are more practical than political. Thanksgiving is the one day of the year when many Chinese restaurants in New York close. That makes it a perfect day for Chinese weddings, which often attract more than 300 people.
"That day offers the highest odds that someone will be available to attend because they are not working," said Tom Cheung, a Manhattan resident, whose parents ran a Chinese restaurant in Coram, N.Y. Some Thanksgivings his family was obligated to go to a half-dozen weddings. As a result, he did not have his first turkey dinner until he went home with a college roommate, who happened to be from Iran.
Like Mr. Cheung's parents, many new Chinese immigrants never cook turkey on Thanksgiving. "They know assimilation is inevitable, so they hold onto their own culture as hard as they can," he said.
In a suburb of Boston, Thanksgiving is all about blending cultures. Ever since Deepak Singh immigrated from Delhi in 1989, he has been perfecting a Thanksgiving menu that offers a turkey seasoned American style, with only salt and pepper, and a macula-scented stuffing seasoned with whatever bits of Indian food and sauce are left over in the refrigerator. Then he covers the rest of the table with as many Indian dishes as he can, sometimes feeding up to 30 friends and family members.
At Mr. Singh's table, dinner is not a political statement. Nor is it an opportunity to reflect on the impromptu harvest festival that started the whole thing more than 300 years ago.
"I can assure you, nobody is sitting down and thinking of the Pilgrims and the Indians and the corn," he said. "Neither are we spectacularly saying, 'Oh, gosh, Americans have taken over everything, and we don't care for that.' It's just a huge eating escapade."
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enjoy the holiday.
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November 25, 2004
Turkey Is Basic, but Immigrants Add Their Homeland Touches
By KIM SEVERSON
PATERSON, N.J. - For all those struggling to get Thanksgiving dinner on the table, consider the plight of Yaser Baker, a restaurateur in this city's Arabic shopping district.
First Mr. Baker had to find a turkey that was slaughtered according to Islamic dietary law, a challenge because some local halal butchers decided not to sell turkeys this year. Then he had to adapt the traditional American recipe to Arabic tastes, which meant bathing it in lemon and olive oil and stuffing it with rice, beef and pine nuts.
Finally he had to brace for reaction from his Muslim neighbors, some of whom are either too devout or too upset about the war in Iraq even to acknowledge Thanksgiving.
But for Mr. Baker, Thanksgiving is all about the bird.
"Believe me, I don't look at it as an American holiday or a holiday that is not for Muslims," said Mr. Baker, a Palestinian and naturalized American who has been in the United States for 24 years. "I live in America. You tell me to eat turkey, I'm going to eat turkey."
The desire to celebrate Thanksgiving was so strong for Leticia Maravilla, a Mexican immigrant, that she roasted her first turkey before she had her green card, struggling through a newspaper recipe in English.
"I wanted to do it the same way Americans did it," she said, speaking from Los Angeles though an interpreter.
Ms. Maravilla ended up with the most American of problems. The breast meat was bone dry. Now, with several Thanksgivings under her belt, she has the culinary conundrum solved. Ms. Maravilla will simmer her turkey on the stove with garlic and onions before she roasts it, a little tip from her mother in Mexico City.
Thanksgiving, which began as a party for immigrants, remains the most accessible American holiday for many newcomers. It requires no specific religious or political allegiance. Even if an immigrant is from a culture where whole roast turkey is never on the menu - and that is nearly everywhere except North America - most are willing to give it a try.
"Turkey has become so iconic to our mythic heritage that by cooking that turkey, even if you don't like it, you are part of something bigger," said Lucy Long, a professor of popular culture at Bowling Green State University and the author of "Culinary Tourism" (University Press of Kentucky, 2003). "You are symbolically showing unity."
Of course that translates into a nation of cross-cultural Thanksgivings, where sticky rice stuffing edges out corn bread, and curry fights with gravy for dominance on overloaded plates.
Fernando Rojas, an immigration lawyer in Miami, came to the United States from Colombia with his family when he was a boy. His wife, Jeanette Martinez, is Puerto Rican. They will share their Thanksgiving meal with his Cuban and Colombian godparents. The critical mass of Latin cultures means a spread that could put Manhattan's best fusion chefs to shame: roast turkey rubbed with garlicky adobo sauce, served alongside plantains, roast pork and platters of black beans and rice.
"When you come to this country, Thanksgiving is something that you just kind of adopt right way," Mr. Rojas said. "You can relate to the mythology of the Pilgrims' coming here and the Indians' helping them out, just like your relatives are helping you out."
But Thanksgiving can be baffling for some newcomers, who struggle to understand an entire day dedicated to eating a large bird. This year, for example, about 150 Somalian Bantu refugees celebrated an early Thanksgiving on Nov. 20 at a church in Tucson, grateful for a chance at a new life but puzzled by a country whose favorite holiday foods they can barely choke down.
Thanksgiving is tough to sell to the Bantus, an ethnic minority who were forced into refugee camps in Kenya, said Mahmoud Abib, a Somalian caseworker with the International Rescue Committee in Tucson.
"We explain to them that they have been through hell for the last 12 years, and they have finally come to a place where they are free," Mr. Abib said. "We say this is giving thanks to the host country that brought them out of that misery."
Luckily the turkey resembles a large, low-flying bird that Mr. Abib said the Bantu hunt. But the Bantu would rather boil the turkey into soup than roast it.
At another early Thanksgiving celebration for refugees, in Decatur, Ga., members of Jewish, Muslim and Christian congregations introduced refugees from eight countries to the concept of Thanksgiving. Bantus and Liberians shared food with Afghans and Sudanese. Safar Fadel, an Afghan, who arrived in the United States in 2000, was there to walk brand-new arrivals through the meal. He remembers his first Thanksgiving and the outpouring of support from people who offered his family food and even clothing.
"I recommend it to any refugee," he said through an interpreter. "It is a beautiful feeling."
The Thanksgiving message is universal, said Ellen Beattie, who runs the International Rescue Committee office that helped arrange the dinner Mr. Fadel attended. "I don't think there is a culture in the world where the concept of sitting down and eating together is not understood," she said.
But the finer points of the holiday are easily lost on many immigrant parents, who are often introduced to Thanksgiving when their children come home from school with recipes and construction-paper turkeys.
"It's an odd holiday for some families," said Makalé Faber, who manages school programs for City Lore, a group in Manhattan dedicated to preserving New York's cultural heritage. "The children have Thursday off to eat a turkey? They don't even know what a turkey is."
Children can be strident about wanting a turkey dinner that looks just like the one all the other kids have, she said. Ms. Faber, whose father is from Guinea, knows the feeling firsthand. "We ended up making a stew with turkey legs," she said. "I of course threw a fit because it wasn't American."
Some immigrants will not celebrate at all. Perhaps 20 percent of the Muslims in Paterson, the most devout, recognize only Muslim holidays, said Hani Awadallah, the president of the Arab American Civic Organization here. Mr. Baker, who will cook half a dozen turkeys for customers at his restaurant, Al Basha, and one for his own family for Thanksgiving, agreed, adding that perhaps half the Muslims in the Paterson area would eat turkey for the holiday. Thirty percent more will get together with family but will not prepare the traditional meal, he said.
One who will not observe the tradition is Shar Rabbo, owner of Nablus Sweets and Pastries on Main Street. He will stay open for the holiday. The Iraq war weighs on his customers. "Let's face it, it has dampened Thanksgiving this year," he said.
For people from other cultures the reasons for not celebrating are more practical than political. Thanksgiving is the one day of the year when many Chinese restaurants in New York close. That makes it a perfect day for Chinese weddings, which often attract more than 300 people.
"That day offers the highest odds that someone will be available to attend because they are not working," said Tom Cheung, a Manhattan resident, whose parents ran a Chinese restaurant in Coram, N.Y. Some Thanksgivings his family was obligated to go to a half-dozen weddings. As a result, he did not have his first turkey dinner until he went home with a college roommate, who happened to be from Iran.
Like Mr. Cheung's parents, many new Chinese immigrants never cook turkey on Thanksgiving. "They know assimilation is inevitable, so they hold onto their own culture as hard as they can," he said.
In a suburb of Boston, Thanksgiving is all about blending cultures. Ever since Deepak Singh immigrated from Delhi in 1989, he has been perfecting a Thanksgiving menu that offers a turkey seasoned American style, with only salt and pepper, and a macula-scented stuffing seasoned with whatever bits of Indian food and sauce are left over in the refrigerator. Then he covers the rest of the table with as many Indian dishes as he can, sometimes feeding up to 30 friends and family members.
At Mr. Singh's table, dinner is not a political statement. Nor is it an opportunity to reflect on the impromptu harvest festival that started the whole thing more than 300 years ago.
"I can assure you, nobody is sitting down and thinking of the Pilgrims and the Indians and the corn," he said. "Neither are we spectacularly saying, 'Oh, gosh, Americans have taken over everything, and we don't care for that.' It's just a huge eating escapade."
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Coffee & Jager please
at least it ain't any Saffire crap.....
I will not be a human pig today
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Coffee & Jager please
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