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Apologies?

Post by debkakes » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:37 pm

Well, it happens. You get a little high, you get a little stoopid, you say the wrong thing to someone or do a regrettable deed. No need to beat yourself up, guilt is a waste of energy. But if you have a little thing nagging at you that you want to get off your chest, here's your chance.
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okay then I'll start

Post by debkakes » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:44 pm

so me and my beau are sitting around pretty toasted at this here subway station after the burn, folks comin and goin, pretty mellow. all night i been wantin to kiss girls. so some folks come in, they're talkin' and this one gal refers to herself as a big ol lesbian. as they were leavin I sez hey big ol lesbian gimme a kiss. she was mightily offended and rightfully so. how crude. sorry.
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Post by Lydia Love » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:04 pm

Well - gotta say it's sweet of you to apologize... but hell it's a can of worms she opened first.

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huh?

Post by freia » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:19 am

Lydia Love wrote:Well - gotta say it's sweet of you to apologize... but hell it's a can of worms she opened first.
And just why should it be a can of worms to announce that one is a big ol' lesbian?

As a big ol' lesbian myself (well, medium sized middle aged lesbian anyway), I wouldn't necessarily have been offended by the 'gimme a kiss' thing... depends on context, etc. What IS offensive is the idea that publicly and proudly proclaiming myself is 'opening a can of worms'. Especially since it sounds like the b.o.l. was talking to her own group of friends, not to debkakes & beau. Why worms? Why bad? Are you opening a can of worms by implicitly implying that you're straight? (At least I assume that you are straight... for all I know you're the biggest ol' lesbian there is and I'm totally misinterpreting your comment :? )

By the way, on behalf of the original b.o.l., thanks for the apology, debkakes.

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Post by nymphgonebad » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:39 am

i'm sorry i brought shit i didn't use, and i'm sorry that due to this lack of foresight, i had to jettison the strawberries, which had to be dumped in the compost heap when we got back.

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Maybe Next Year?

Post by PJ » Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:31 am

I apologize to the people I'd promised to give sighseeing airplane rides to and couldn't because I left the event early. (Had to medivac my camp mate out--a surreal experience--and flew back to retrieve our camping gear.)

Playa Air crew, all y'all fun people at Mouthful of Playa Dust camp, Piss Clear's Adrian--you're on for next year.

And I hope that the accidents out at the Airport (which happened after I'd left, so I don't have any first-hand observations to report) won't dissuade you. The operations out there have been extremely safe up to this year and my hope is that pilots will be stressing safety even more because of what a couple of them did this year.

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Post by Lydia Love » Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:14 am

What IS offensive is the idea that publicly and proudly proclaiming myself is 'opening a can of worms'.
Uh... ok -

Perhaps can of worms was a misleading phrase within this context in that people might attach a negative assoctiation to it. I was not attempting said negative association but if you found that offensive rest assured it was not my intention.

So I'll try this and see if it offends less - she opened the jar of delicious rasperry jam - publicly. She used the words *first* loud enough for debkakes to hear at least. If she did proudly proclaim her status as a big ole lesbian then why take offense at her own words given back to her - in what (to me) sounds like a positive, I want to kiss you kind of way.

I wasn't there - but it sounds to me like debkakes was participating with her environment and with the people around her. It seems like a weird thing to get offended about but if debkakes feels she may have stepped over a line then her apology is probably appropriate.

I'm a big ole straight chick by the way and on Friday night I was shaking my big ole half naked booty over at blue house when a guy came up to me and said "My god your a voluptous sexy woman. I think I just discovered something about myself. I like MEATY women."

I didn't know how to respond at first - I had spent most of the week thinking of myself as sexy without the qualifiers big, voluptous or (shudder) meaty. But I realized what he was really saying was "baby, you got it and I like it" however gracelessly he put it and damnit, I was putting all of it out there. I decided to enjoy the interaction and not be offended by it.

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Re: b.o.l. issue, plus other separate apology

Post by freia » Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:15 am

Lydia Love wrote:
..... she opened the jar of delicious rasperry jam - publicly...
Yummy, I like it! :lol:

And then again, I just realized I was making my own assumptions that 'can of worms' was bad.... a worm might take offense at that, and there you go.... now everybody's offended :)

By the way, I didn't mean to imply that I would have been offended myself. I probably would have just laughed and then gone over & given debcakes a big ol' smooch. When I first read it I thought 'oh boy, there's another one of the lesbian nation getting offended at some silly thing'.... and then I myself got offended at the can o' worms thing. Silly silly, there's always something to be offended by if one wants to be. It can be a fine line between just trying to point out possible prejudices, which I may or may not be imagining, and coming across as having a chip on my shoulder. My Apologies :!:

On a separate note, I'm sorry that when we were packing up in the dust-storm Sunday evening and I said 'oh no' when a brand new gust came along, and my brother said 'stop saying that and just enjoy it', that I got snippy and said 'well I wouldn't BE packing in this dust storm if we didn't have to take you home with us' (long story... he was going to hitchhike home to Oregon after riding his bike here, and I didn't want to see baby brother having to make his way home that way when we could make a space for him in the back of our small pickup truck... but it meant we had to pack first to make sure there was indeed room for him, so if there wasn't he could get up bright & early on Monday & stand at the BRC gate with his thumb out). So anyway, even though I STILL think I had every right to express dismay at the dust-storm, which was lovely but I would have been enjoying from INSIDE the shelter if I hadn't had to be taking the shelter down, anyway, I'm afraid I left Dan with the impression that I begrudged giving him a ride, which I didn't at all. I'm afraid I came off like guilt-tripping, which I didn't mean to. I keep meaning to apologize to him and all I'm doing here is just posting it to a board which he may or may not read. So the next step is to tell him, & make sure he knows we were perfectly happy having him in the back of the truck. etc etc etc.

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apologies to my playamate's gf back home

Post by jinx_sf_burner » Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:47 am

Sorry, :(
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My calous words to my fellow BRG reporter

Post by Gothalot » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:34 pm

Im sorry to my fellow BRG reporter whom I said in front of someone "He is fatter than me let me go up instead". My comment was ment as a joke but it was calous and thoughtless on my part and I should have thought before I opened my gob. For this, I am truely sorry.

Plus, where have I room to talk, I probaly weighed what he did, possibly more.

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Post by mac » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:33 pm

If you were thumbing near the gate Sun morn, and were 2 gentlemen with a cardboard sign marked San Francisco. I am sorry for not picking u up, I was only going about an hour down the road and with so many burners from San Francisco I figured your luck would be better getting a full distance ride from there as opposed to fernly. Hope you didn't think we were snubbing you or anything. Hope you had a safe trip home.
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Confess! vs Apologies?

Post by debkakes » Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:56 am

tee hee, looks like despite the secular humanist trend at BM, people would rather confess than apologize! Jeez, I'm a good catholic girl and i haven't been to confession in ____ years.
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Re: Confess! vs Apologies?

Post by PJ » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:12 am

debkakes wrote:tee hee...I'm a good catholic girl and i haven't been to confession...
Mmm-hmm. So, now's a good time for that. What are you wearing?

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oh come now

Post by debkakes » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:50 am

you can be more original than that!
okay -- no panties!! At work, even!
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and...

Post by debkakes » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:50 am

i'm not apologizing for it, either!
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Post by chloe_dancer » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:00 am

i am sorry that by the time the trashistan pot luck rolled around i had only pb&j to donate....it was organic though!!!! next time i will come better prepared. by the way, whoever brought the corn and tomato salad and the apple pie..i love u!
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leftover foodstuffs

Post by debkakes » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:14 am

oh yeah.
Sorry we brought so much food we didn't eat; sorry we didn't solicit hungry souls on the street when it was obvious we had prepared too much to eat ourselves.
REALLY sorry we didn't have it out to give at the gate as we left.
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Post by Lydia Love » Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:47 pm

Everytime I overheard someone calling out someone's name, like, "Susan! Susan!" I'd shout "Stop calling me Susan, damnit!"

I just realized how hideously annoying that must have been.

Sorry.

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Post by Halo Joe » Fri Sep 05, 2003 9:13 pm

I apologize for missing the post meet-and-greet romp. (Sort of ... I mean, I wished I'd come back for it, but I got into fun anyway, so I'm not THAT sorry.)

Hey, there's always next year...

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Post by TawnyGnosis » Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:09 am

I apologize for lurkin' at the meet n' greet. I was a bit sand blasted and mellow by the time I actually found the bistro. Those were smashing good quesadillas though, mmm.
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Post by Halo Joe » Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:53 pm

tempest wrote:I apologize for lurkin' at the meet n' greet. I was a bit sand blasted and mellow by the time I actually found the bistro. Those were smashing good quesadillas though, mmm.
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Post by Ivy » Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:16 pm

Those were smashing good quesadillas though, mmm.
there were quesidillas?

And I missed them?

:(

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on behalf of the quesidillas

Post by debkakes » Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:53 pm

i apologize for not being duly found and eaten by ivy...
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Post by Kinetic » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:04 am

I apologize for getting my schedules wrong...for showing up for greeter training but then missing the shift. I did greet the next night and had so much fun but I missed alot of the e-playa stuff. I also missed meeting Ivy and Precipitate....

I also apologize for not raving more about Reba's Playa Pale Ale. Reba's right...there's swill, and then there's that absolutely divine master work of art called Playa Pale Ale. Simply unbelievable bottled art.

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forgotten earplug gifts

Post by debkakes » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:05 am

Almost forgot a big one: I brought about a million little paks of earplugs with me to give away, but completely spaced it once I got there. how many people did not get that "good night's sleep" because of me??????
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Post by DVD Burner » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:58 pm

My Apologies that Eplay has become so political.
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Post by TheMuse » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:41 pm

I'm sorry for burning Gothalot in the eye with a smoke... drunk Muse... sorryluv.
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Post by Badger » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:49 pm

My Apologies that Eplay has become so political.
One might consider one's contributions to making it such.
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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:03 am

Badger wrote:
My Apologies that Eplay has become so political.
One might consider one's contributions to making it such.
:?

Any suggestions?
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Post by DVD Burner » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:05 am

After all I did post on eplaya that politics and religion was bullshit.
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