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LETS BE HONEST!

Post by willx001 » Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:27 am

2005 Theme Idea: LOSERS! - LETS BE HONEST!

The Anti- Gorge Bush Cliché is Dead, Long Live the Anit- Gorge Bush Cliché

I protested Gorge Bush and all I got was this lousy tee-shirt!

Oh and 4 more years.

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PROPAGANDA: A way of presenting a belief that seeks to generate acceptance without regard to facts or the right of others to be heard. Propaganda often presents the same argument repeatedly, in the simplest terms and ignores all rebuttal or counter-argument. It is essentially self- interested and often associated with authoritarian regimes. Propaganda is often used to convey official descriptions of reality, when it may be allied with bureaucratic control of media, censorship of opposing opinions and deliberate misinformation.
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Post by Simply Joel » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:33 am

THE NEW AND IMPROVED RACISM
by Ann Coulter

Still furious about the election, liberals are lashing out at blacks. First it was Condoleezza Rice. But calling a Ph.D. who advised a sitting president during war "Aunt Jemima" apparently hasn't satiated the Democrats' rage. Even the racist cartoons didn't help.
So this week, they've turned with a vengeance to Clarence Thomas. Only the Democrats would try to distract from their racist attacks on one black Republican by leveling racist attacks against a different black Republican. If Democrats don't nip this in the bud, soon former Klanner and Democratic Sen. Bob Byrd will be their spokesman.

In the past few weeks, there have been nasty insinuations all around about Condoleezza Rice's competence for the job.

Democratic consultant Bob Beckel -- who demonstrated his own competence running Walter Mondale's campaign -- said of Rice, "I don't think she's up to the job."

Joseph Cirincione, with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (so you know they don't have an agenda or anything), said Rice "doesn't bring much experience or knowledge of the world to this position." This was reassuring, inasmuch as that was also liberals' assessment of the current president before he took office and he, to put it mildly, has been doing rather well.

The Kansas City Star editorialized that Rice "has not demonstrated great competence in the last four years," which is to say, Dr. Rice failed to be sufficiently clairvoyant to predict the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

Columnist Bob Herbert sneered of Rice's nomination in The New York Times: "Competence has never been highly regarded by the fantasists of the George W. Bush administration." For example, these are the bumbling nitwits who conquered Afghanistan, the "graveyard of empires," and toppled Baghdad in less time than your average Jennifer Lopez marriage lasts. (Wait, I can't remember: Was it the Bush administration that hired Jayson Blair?)

So far Dr. Rice has demonstrated her abundant competence only in academia, geopolitics, history, government, college administration, classical music and athletics. I eagerly await the Bob Herbert column in which he lists the subjects and pursuits he's mastered. If only Rice talked about her accessorizing like Clinton's Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, she might impress the sort of fellow who writes for The New York Times.

Liberals at least give white Republicans credit for being evil. Rumsfeld is a dangerous warmonger, Paul Wolfowitz is part of an international Jewish conspiracy, Dick Cheney is "Dr. No." But Dr. Rice? She's a dummy.

In fact, after spending the last four years telling us that President Bush was an empty suit, a vessel for neoconservative fantasies of perpetual war, liberals have now found someone who is Bush's puppet: the black chick.

It's all so eerily familiar.

The late Mary McGrory, a white liberal, called Scalia "a brilliant and compelling extremist" -- as opposed to McGrory herself, a garden-variety extremist of average intelligence. But Thomas she dismissed as "Scalia's puppet," quoting another white liberal, Alvin J. Bronstein of the American Civil Liberties Union, to make the point. This is the kind of rhetoric liberals are reduced to when they just can't bring themselves to use the n-word.

Most recently -- at least as we go to press -- last Sunday Harry Reid, the Democratic leader in the Senate, had this to say about Justice Clarence Thomas: "I think that he has been an embarrassment to the Supreme Court. I think that his opinions are poorly written." You'd think Thomas' opinions were written in ebonics.

In the same interview, Reid called Justice Antonin Scalia "one smart guy." He said that although he disagreed with Scalia, his reasoning is "very hard to dispute." Scalia is "one smart guy"; Thomas is the janitor. If Democrats are all going to read from the same talking points, they might want to get someone other than David Duke to write them.

On the Sean Hannity radio show, Democratic pundit Pat Halpin defended Sen. Reid's laughable attack on Thomas by citing Bob Woodward's book "The Brethren," which -- according to Halpin -- vividly portrays Thomas as a nincompoop.

I return to my standing point that liberals don't read. Harry Reid clearly hasn't read any of the decisions Justice Thomas has written, and Pat Halpin clearly hasn't read "The Brethren."

"The Brethren" came out a decade before Thomas was even nominated to the Supreme Court. The only black Supreme Court justice discussed in "The Brethren" is Thurgood Marshall. That's one we haven't heard in a while: I just can't tell you guys apart.

How many black justices have there been on the Supreme Court again? Oh yes: two. It's one thing to confuse Potter Stewart with Lewis Powell. After all, there have been a lot of white guys on the court. But there have been only two black justices -- and Democrats can't keep them straight. Two! That's like getting your mother and father confused. I can name every black guy on a current National Hockey League roster: Is it asking Democrats too much to remember the names of the only two black Supreme Court justices?

In "America (The Book)," by Jon Stewart and the writers of Comedy Central's "Daily Show," the section on the judiciary describes how to make a sock puppet of Clarence Thomas and then says, "Ta-da! You're Antonin Scalia!" On grounds of originality alone, Mr. Stewart, I want my money back.

But reviewing the book in The New York Times, Caryn James called the sock puppet joke one of the book's "gems of pointed political humor." Funny how the liberal punditocracy all parrot this same "sock puppet" line about Thomas year after year, almost as if they were sock pu-- oh, never mind.

Curiously, of all the liberals launching racist attacks on black conservatives I've quoted above, only two are themselves black: the two who write for The New York Times. So I guess there are still a couple of blacks taking orders from the Democrats. Isn't there an expression for that? I think it begins with "Uncle" and ends with "Tom."

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Post by Alpha » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:45 pm

God help me for getting back into this but:
Ann Coulter wrote:Joseph Cirincione, with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (so you know they don't have an agenda or anything), said Rice "doesn't bring much experience or knowledge of the world to this position." This was reassuring, inasmuch as that was also liberals' assessment of the current president before he took office and he, to put it mildly, has been doing rather well.
That's her opinion. I think he's fucked up just about everything he's touched.

Now here's what I don't get: since when is it racism to question a person's qualifications or job performance? Only if one suggests that the poor performance is the result of the color of one's skin. I don't see anything in that article that even begins to suggest that Rice's critics blame her race.

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Post by Simply Joel » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:31 pm

Alpha wrote:God help me for getting back into this but:
Ann Coulter wrote:Joseph Cirincione, with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (so you know they don't have an agenda or anything), said Rice "doesn't bring much experience or knowledge of the world to this position." This was reassuring, inasmuch as that was also liberals' assessment of the current president before he took office and he, to put it mildly, has been doing rather well.
That's her opinion. I think he's fucked up just about everything he's touched.

Now here's what I don't get: since when is it racism to question a person's qualifications or job performance? Only if one suggests that the poor performance is the result of the color of one's skin. I don't see anything in that article that even begins to suggest that Rice's critics blame her race.
excerpted from http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0%2 ... %2C00.html
"Condoleezza Rice was loyal to the president, and clearly has his confidence, but she never really managed the inter-agency process the way a national security adviser should," said Joseph Cirincione, an arms control expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "Most of the world will see Condi Rice as a step down from Colin Powell, and they would be right. She doesn't bring much experience or knowledge of the world to this position."
I believe Coulter's point was that Dr. Rice and Justice Thomas have been unduly judged as less than competent while other members of the Bush Administration have not been judged so contemptuously as illustrated below.
In fact, after spending the last four years telling us that President Bush was an empty suit, a vessel for neoconservative fantasies of perpetual war, liberals have now found someone who is Bush's puppet: the black chick.

It's all so eerily familiar.

The late Mary McGrory, a white liberal, called Scalia "a brilliant and compelling extremist" -- as opposed to McGrory herself, a garden-variety extremist of average intelligence. But Thomas she dismissed as "Scalia's puppet," quoting another white liberal, Alvin J. Bronstein of the American Civil Liberties Union, to make the point. This is the kind of rhetoric liberals are reduced to when they just can't bring themselves to use the n-word.

Most recently -- at least as we go to press -- last Sunday Harry Reid, the Democratic leader in the Senate, had this to say about Justice Clarence Thomas: "I think that he has been an embarrassment to the Supreme Court. I think that his opinions are poorly written." You'd think Thomas' opinions were written in ebonics.

In the same interview, Reid called Justice Antonin Scalia "one smart guy." He said that although he disagreed with Scalia, his reasoning is "very hard to dispute." Scalia is "one smart guy"; Thomas is the janitor. If Democrats are all going to read from the same talking points, they might want to get someone other than David Duke to write them.

On the Sean Hannity radio show, Democratic pundit Pat Halpin defended Sen. Reid's laughable attack on Thomas by citing Bob Woodward's book "The Brethren," which -- according to Halpin -- vividly portrays Thomas as a nincompoop.

I return to my standing point that liberals don't read. Harry Reid clearly hasn't read any of the decisions Justice Thomas has written, and Pat Halpin clearly hasn't read "The Brethren."

"The Brethren" came out a decade before Thomas was even nominated to the Supreme Court. The only black Supreme Court justice discussed in "The Brethren" is Thurgood Marshall. That's one we haven't heard in a while: I just can't tell you guys apart.

How many black justices have there been on the Supreme Court again? Oh yes: two. It's one thing to confuse Potter Stewart with Lewis Powell. After all, there have been a lot of white guys on the court. But there have been only two black justices -- and Democrats can't keep them straight. Two! That's like getting your mother and father confused.
I think Coulter makes a very strong point that these two black conservatives are being singled out for their conservative beliefs and politics. Furthermore, there exists two standards of behavior and ethics for blacks, one... liberal with the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, one conservative with the likes of Justice Thomas and Dr Rice... and that is simply unfair.

Despite the bad press, I do believe Justice Thomas and Dr. Rice are two great American success stories, and present good role models for children of all races.

I hope people can just see beyond their own prejudices and acknowledge the above statement as true.

but, hey... that is just my opinion.

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Post by Alpha » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:20 pm

I can't imaging Al Sharpton as NSA or Secretary of State (for any president) and NOT getting lamblasted. What I do know is that this NSA failed to act on an August 6th, 2001 presidential briefing that warned that bin Laden was planning attacks in the U.S. and that they'd considered hijacking an airplane. She doesn't have to be clairvoyant to figure out that something should be done to protect the skyways.

I suppose the question is easier for the justices, since there are 9 of them. I don't know my politics well enough to compare Thomas' performance to the others, so I'm not qualified to comment on that.

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Post by Force » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:43 pm

Actually Joel, your quote really doesn't refute Alpha's point that no one said anything about Rice's race- other than the reporter writing the article, who apparently needed an angle.

Unfortunately, the majority of people reading the article will not analyze it that carefully and will accept the reporter's conclusion instead of thinking for themselves.

I won't even bother to rebut Ann Coulter, her teen rah-rah style opinings are not worthy of serious discussion.

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Post by Simply Joel » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:54 pm

Force wrote:Actually Joel, your quote really doesn't refute Alpha's point that no one said anything about Rice's race- other than the reporter writing the article, who apparently needed an angle.

Unfortunately, the majority of people reading the article will not analyze it that carefully and will accept the reporter's conclusion instead of thinking for themselves.

I won't even bother to rebut Ann Coulter, her teen rah-rah style opinings are not worthy of serious discussion.

unlike the teen rah rah style or Maureen Dowd, NY Times?

personally, i wouldn't want to spend an evening with either one of the ladies.

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Post by helitack » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:58 pm

I overheard this in a bar in Vegas on my birthday, these two were obviously from California. "I think Arnolds running mate should be Bruce Willis". Goddamit, how the fuck did this CLOWN get elected anyway?

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Post by Simply Joel » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:04 pm

helitack wrote:I overheard this in a bar in Vegas on my birthday, these two were obviously from California. "I think Arnolds running mate should be Bruce Willis". Goddamit, how the fuck did this CLOWN get elected anyway?
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Post by Force » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:20 pm

Simply Joel wrote:
Force wrote:I won't even bother to rebut Ann Coulter, her teen rah-rah style opinings are not worthy of serious discussion.

unlike the teen rah rah style or , NY Times?

personally, i wouldn't want to spend an evening with either one of the ladies.
I can see myself spending an evening with Ann Coulter, but only if she wore this;

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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:18 am

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December 10, 2004
Nobel Winner Maathai Sounds Alarm Over Planet
By REUTERS

Filed at 8:20 a.m. ET

OSLO (Reuters) - Saying the planet is at risk from human activity, Kenyan environmentalist Wangari Maathai urged democratic reforms and an end to corporate greed when she collected the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday.

Maathai, Kenya's deputy environment minister and the first African woman to win the Peace Prize, said sweeping changes were needed to restore a ``world of beauty and wonder'' by overcoming challenges ranging from AIDS to climate instability.

``Activities that devastate the environment and societies continue unabated,'' Maathai, founder of a campaign to plant 30 million trees across Africa to slow deforestation, said in an acceptance speech at the ceremony in Oslo City Hall.

``Today we are faced with a challenge that calls for a shift in our thinking, so that humanity stops threatening its life-support system,'' Maathai, 64, told an audience of about 1,000 people including Norway's King Harald and Queen Sonja.

``I call on leaders, especially in Africa, to expand democratic space and build fair and just societies,'' she said.

``Further, industry and global institutions must appreciate that ensuring economic justice, equity and ecological integrity are of greater value than profits at any cost,'' she said.

Grassroots citizens' movements should be encouraged.

Maathai collected a gold Nobel medal and a diploma to a standing ovation from 1,000 guests. She will separately receive a check for 10 million Swedish crowns ($1.48 million). She will use the cash to expand her Green Belt Movement around the world.

HEAL EARTH

``We are called to assist the Earth to heal her wounds and in the process heal our own,'' she said. The Nobel Prizes were set up in the 1895 will of Swedish philanthropist Alfred Nobel, 10 years before Norway won independence from Sweden.

Her tree-planting movement, led mostly by women, aims to produce firewood, building materials and also to slow desertification. It also works for women's rights, democracy and peace.

Maathai said a stream where she used to see frogs and tadpoles as a child 50 years ago had dried up. ``The challenge is to restore the home of the tadpoles and give back to our children a world of beauty and wonder,'' she said.

Maathai also said the environment was a barometer of a nation's health. Some critics have said environmentalism has too little to do with peace to warrant the Nobel accolade.

``The state of any country's environment is a reflection of the kind of governance in place, and without good governance there can be no peace,'' she said.

She said the world was facing a ``litany of woes'' including corruption, violence against women and children and diseases like AIDS or malaria.

In an interview with Reuters, she brushed aside questions about her past suggestions that the deadly AIDS virus might have been the result of a laboratory experiment gone awry.

``I really don't know. I really don't have any idea. I'm not an expert in this field,'' she said. She has also denied suggestions that scientists might have created the virus as a biological weapon against Africans.

Maathai also urged peoples of the world to plant trees at Easter, when Christians believe Christ rose from the dead after being crucified on a wooden cross.

Prizes for physics, chemistry, medicine, literature and economics will be handed out in Stockholm on Friday.

Copyright 2004 Reuters Ltd.

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Post by Simply Joel » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:24 am

Force wrote:
Simply Joel wrote:
Force wrote:I won't even bother to rebut Ann Coulter, her teen rah-rah style opinings are not worthy of serious discussion.

unlike the teen rah rah style or , NY Times?

personally, i wouldn't want to spend an evening with either one of the ladies.
I can see myself spending an evening with Ann Coulter, but only if she wore this;

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i like the way you think... actually, both Maureen and Ann with said device might be an truly interesting evening or two.

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